Soooo, we are def getting trolled right?

not trying to be a dick but you need to take a couple weeks off poker to clear your head, it's tilting to see you constantly overthink yourself to death

+1. No explanation can ever justify the play. You got us good OP

that is the fold of 2018

OP needs his assumption to be correct ~90% of the time to make a profitable fold, assuming pre cc range of AQo AJs-AQs, each extra combo adds a bit less than 1% to required confidence

ILY Rapid

I'm quite surprised you think that hand was a trolling hand lol.
I've made way sicker folds than that one, sometimes the guy isn't bluffing ever, gotta know your opponent.

And villain needs to be jamming Ax there around 60%-65% of the time for the call to be profitable. In the best case scenario we have a call worth around 36bb of EV(if he has quads only 10% of the time), if he has quads all the time it's a -60bb EV call lol.

Just see folds way tougher than this one that I've already done

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...77/?highlight=

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...68/?highlight=

Oops, forgot to halve equity, you will actually only need 80% confidence in the assumption, 1 extra combo = 3% more confidence required.

Its definitely not 60-65% lol, you only need less than 2 combos of Ax jam to call profitably. It is about 20% at most.

Both of those folds are also bad but not near as bad as H7.

You are a really odd bird tho I will say. Most either spew too much or nit too much. You somehow do both. This isnt a dig, just a sincere observation.

Played enough fullring to be the king of nits, and enough donkaments to be an aggroboy haha

I'm fine with that fold, 50z isn't GTOland, more like nitland
I have to be able to be aggressive, but still be smart and be capable of being nittiest than the biggest nit of 50z. That's the way to beat them, gotta get the easy blinds, but when they show that they have a hand, have the discipline to lay it down.

Vs this guy I was folding AQ 100% sure, maybe TT, even with KJ I tanked for a while, trying to see if any straight flush or bigger FH was possible lol.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 158.14 BB
BB: 114.18 BB
Hero (UTG): 109.86 BB
MP: 107.08 BB
CO: 85.28 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) J K 7
BB checks, Hero bets 1.6 BB, BB calls 1.6 BB

Turn: (8.34 BB, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero bets 5.94 BB, BB calls 5.94 BB

River: (20.22 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 14.4 BB, BB raises to 46.08 BB, Hero raises to 100 BB and is all-in, BB calls 53.92 BB

Folding aq pry overfold as well since 98s and sometimes ak could raise let alone any spew

The folding boat is funny. I almost wanted to fold a boat the other day and couldnt do it and the guy raised me (4b otr all in) with the dumbest hand ever. I'll post when I get home.

so many mistakes man

Could you point which and why?

Villain in that hand wasn't a GTO opponent, he was folding 70% OTF and 80% OTT, vs someone like that, it's reasonable to fold all straights. Also guys like that don't valuebet that thin or bluff, river was 100% FH+, the question is which FHs we call vs a guy like that.

You play in an anonymous pool, your folds are 10 times sicker than any fold I make, man. I only make super explo folds like that vs people I'm 100% sure are never bluffing or valuebetting worse. If I have any doubt, even if small, I'll call and be fine with that.

I remember a hand where you folded JJ on KJT in a 3-bet pot vs a raise OTT, that's way sicker than my FH fold. Just because it's in an anonymous pool, the chance of the other guy being someone very drunk clicking buttons just make the call +EV.

I knew the guy I was playing against, I would be surprised if he had Ax there other than A6hh. 50z is a nitfest, man.

Most of my money come from guys like that, which overfold and I never pay them off. I think I'm even losing to fish lol, as crazy as it sounds, they fight a ton for pots and are capable of jamming stacks with nothing, so in a battle of 2 people playing like that, the weaker one(me) gets owned. I surely lost an insane amount over my 160k hands to fish by cbet-folding, cbet-raise-folding, calling raises and folding the turn. Lost a ton to stations too. Made some off whales, which happen, but tbh the guys that helped my winrate the most were those nits who are super predictable and can't ever cooler me.

I would call TT in that hand, since he shouldn't have JJ(which would be wrong, but I usually assume that people never cold call jacks from the BB, even though even I do some of that lol), so he could have 77.

You never seem to take your own range into account when you play, strictly the other player's range and you make super bold assumptions all the time which leads you to make ridiculously nitty folds or bluffing way too much etc.

I mean you definitely have some mental leak issues, but yeah I can see why you'd be concerned about losing with AQ if guy is indeed very nitty. (Also i believe i checked that hand and guy indeed had AQ)

Anyways, the hand I literally was thinking about folding the other day is below as I just couldn't believe anyone 4-betting all in with anything but quads or a randomly better boat, but whatever and flicked it in and he had...

All I have to say is..... Ignition/BovaDUH

That's a standard ignition hand. lol

H15 is most ******ed of all imo. He flops so badly and then decides its a good board to bluff. Thats a simple xf , move on, yet somehow hes all in, on the turn in the most awful spot. And your doing this kind of stupid stuff with 20 buy in br. big lolz.

H7 is not as bad as many other hands he shows imo. I generally think its bad play to call over bet jams just to split pots at best.

we can hardly call this an overbet which is why it's a snap call duh

Q9 iggy hand is not as terrible as it looks and its not in the top 20 of bad hands posted in the last page. I'm actually quite surprised to see a line like that at 200z and do not think it is exactly button clicking. Also don't know how you 17bet/call river there and in the same pool fold flop to utg x/r on 774 in a 3b pot w/AA but w/e.

As for op, I have no idea how we are comparing folding JJ on KJT to a turn raise which is approaching standard in an explo value heavy pool to some of the folds you are posting itt. Folding AQ on KT7JK to significant action is not a hero fold it is standard. Folding Ax on AA662 is not a hero fold it is abysmal.

I'm still convinced we are being trolled.

I thought CO had Q9 at first too because it somewhat makes sense but Q9 is UTGs folded hand and CO has the J high flush

Op sure knows how to generate thread traffic.

op you keep making really huge adjustments without much proof behind it sooo many hands get posted "villain overfolds this spot" then goes crazy with 82s and get called super light.

you need to take a step back and find some balance

it does feel like he thinks he is exploiting other players hardcore whereas he is just making it easier for them to exploit him