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09-25-2018 , 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
HAHAHA VAMOOOOOOOO














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Will Pogba continue taking penalites ?
09-26-2018 , 10:19 PM
Btw, thought a little and I think I'll buy pio as soon as I have a decent roll again, so probably when I get to a $10k roll. I'll save some ideas of sims to run in there until then, I think that my work will be super productive in there, since I love to explore stuff and create theories and that it will help me in those OOP strats with donkbets. But maybe I could end up working in very low frequency spots which wouldn't add much to the winrate, so who knows haha! Still a long way to go, don't see myself getting that much money in the recent future unless I hit a major upswing.


Now back to work:

Quote:
river---------------
bet
cbet
AFQ
fold to bet
fold to cbet
2bet
fold to 2bet
Bet river

This stat is less useful than cbet river, but it's easier to get sample on it, I think it will be hard to use it because it needs a big sample and we can't exclude much stuff with it, and to get an accurate river stat like that I would expect at least 10k hands, which I have on 0 people atm.

So won't use this one

cbet

Same thing as the other one, but the difference is that it tells more, but requires a larger sample. But this one could give us some some good exploits on some people, like people who give up a lot OTR(so they underbluff), or that bet a lot OTR(making more likely they will overbluff). I think I'll keep it because there's some people I can use it against.

Like, if I'm facing someone with (2/10) river cbet, it's very likely that they're not cbetting 70%+, right? Also if someone is cbetting (9/10) OTR, it's very unlikely that they're cbetting less than 30%, right? Does anyone know about a calculator to calculate this? I'm super ******ed when it comes to statistics/probability.

I think I'll keep this because of how important this spot is, but won't pay much attention to it unless I have >6k hands on someone.

AFQ
solid stat, will keep it, even though it's OTR

fold to bet

This one is somewhat different from river bet, because we get more info by it than that one. Usually there are some guys that hate to fold the river on any scenario, like the ones that think: "can't fold the river after calling turn", also there are the guys who fold the river all the time, like me. This one could cause some distortion, because in it there are fold to stabs OTR, fold to cbets OTR, fold to probe OTR, but since it gets more sample faster, it can be useful.

I'll obviously not even consider using it when I see only 5 samples, but since it's expected for people to fold river >50% in the games I play, if I see someone with (0/5) fold the river, the chance of someone showing up with that if its folding river at 50% is 1/(2^5) = 1/32. So vs someone like that it's safe to say that it's good to not bluff a lot. Now if we see someone with a (5/10) river fold, we don't have enough info that we should explo underbluff, as well as that we shouldn't explo overbluff neither! Even though the sample size increased by a lot, the river stat won't tell us much, right?

What do you guys think about that? I know samples are low, but I have to predict what I'll face at the tables, and from my experience, I rarely get so many stats like that unless it's vs people who play a lot.

fold to cbet

For the same reasons as fold to bet and cbet river, even though the sample will be super small, I think it's good to keep it vs people I have a big sample on. I'll focus on not looking at how the stat is on average(3 out of 10 = 7 our of 10 and I shouldn't go explo based on that)

fold to river 2bet

Impossible to get accurate stats on this or even to use some exclusions in there, will never have a sample to be able to use this. Maybe if a guy folded river after 2bet (1/5), but to get that is insane, since most people raise the river between 5%-15%

this one is out.

2bet

Will keep this one, even though it's hard to get it right, it can give us some positives. Since most people raise the river at a very low frequency, it can be useful to spot some river raises as overbluffs. As an example, stroggoz_nz has a (2/3) river raise in my sample. Ofc it's not enough to justify a rebluff jam, if villain is raising the river at a 10%, the odds of him having a (2/3) river raise stat are: 0.9*0.9*0.1*3 = 27%? (not sure if this is right, can anyone verify this?). It doesn't seem right, I expect this to be less than 5%.

Will work that out tomorrow, gotta figure out the math to apply to this stat, even though samples are rare in that one, getting a positive that villain is overbluffing is insane OTR, specially since my std is to overfold vs river raises. If I make a big fold while villain is overbluffing it's terrible.


Btw, it has been a year since I took my shot at 50z(discounting those early 2017 luckbox and monkey play when I ran super hot while playing like a whale). This is my graph since september last year. Volume is so good! Really happy to see that as a part-timer I'm putting some decent volume! Mediocre winrate ofc, but I think I learned a lot during this year and will do better in the next hands!


Last edited by Rapidesh123; 09-26-2018 at 10:30 PM.
09-27-2018 , 12:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
As an example, stroggoz_nz has a (2/3) river raise in my sample. Ofc it's not enough to justify a rebluff jam, if villain is raising the river at a 10%, the odds of him having a (2/3) river raise stat are: 0.9*0.9*0.1*3 = 27%? (not sure if this is right, can anyone verify this?). It doesn't seem right, I expect this to be less than 5%.
If my logic is correct:

10% chance that he raises river.
Therefore, it's 1% chance that he does it 2/2 times.
So, it's probably around 3-5% that he does it 2/3 times.

Some math:
There's 27% chance that it happens at least 1/3 times (0,9*0,9*0,9-1)

For it to happen 2/3 times, the math would have to be:
There's 27% chance that it happens at least 1/3 times.
+ there's 19% chance that it happens at least 1/2 aditional times.

So it's 0,19*0,271= 5% chance, that he raises the river at least 2/3 times when he is raising the river 10%.
09-27-2018 , 02:07 AM
.1^2 * .9 * 3 = 2.7%
09-27-2018 , 03:11 AM
For stats any mid to low sample sucks when the freq you are looking for is very low in population, if a reasonable amount t of ppl have it then its worth to look at the statistic. Also if looking at stat takes away energy from actual strat then a problem can develop. That's really all the vid you watched is saying, there's no hidden logic beyond that. The example of his own stat is also insanely unlikely fwiw, like 1/50k+
09-28-2018 , 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZKesic
If my logic is correct:

10% chance that he raises river.
Therefore, it's 1% chance that he does it 2/2 times.
So, it's probably around 3-5% that he does it 2/3 times.

Some math:
There's 27% chance that it happens at least 1/3 times (0,9*0,9*0,9-1)

For it to happen 2/3 times, the math would have to be:
There's 27% chance that it happens at least 1/3 times.
+ there's 19% chance that it happens at least 1/2 aditional times.

So it's 0,19*0,271= 5% chance, that he raises the river at least 2/3 times when he is raising the river 10%.
thanks, nyu!

So we calculate first the chances of getting at least 1/3 then go to 2/3?
I thought about it later and then came with 0.1*0.1*1*(3!)/(2!) = 3%
I remember that back in school there was some stuff going on about factorials.

But cool, so if the guy is x/r (2/3), it's very unlikely that he has a 10% x/r, so it could be useful IRL, right? Specially when we know some about the guy and know that he plays higher?

If he had a 20% x/r, then the chances of him getting to a (2/3) would have been: 0.8*0.8*0.8 -1 = 48.8%, chances of doing it at least (1/2) are 36%, so the chances that he gets to that (2/3) are 17%, which is way more reasonable.

Basically if we find someone with a (2/3) stat we can say that it's way more likely that he has a x/r between 15%-20% than he has a x/r between 5%-10%.

Now if we find him x/r 2/10 times, we can't say much, because he could be getting into that stat with a 10% x/r and a 20% x/r at a reasonable %.
09-28-2018 , 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by enzet
.1^2 * .9 * 3 = 2.7%
This is correct, binomial dist
09-28-2018 , 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by enzet
.1^2 * .9 * 3 = 2.7%
thanks, that was the formula I was looking for.
It makes sense: (0.1*0.1*0.9) * (3!)/(2!)

The chances of someone getting into a (2/10) x/r when he x/r 20% are:

(0.2*0.2)*(0.8)^8 *(10!)/(8! * 2!) = 30%

Now back to the stats:

I'll keep all flop stats because they're more likely to be accurate.

Quote:
turn----------
bet turn
fold to bet turn
fold to 2bet turn
raise cbet
cbet(3-bet pot)
raise cbet (3-bet pot)
fold to cbet(3-bet pot)
AFQ turn
bet turn
Not very useful imo, I think I'll replace it with probe turn and float bet turn.
Even though those require more sample, they at least can say something.

fold to bet turn

Same thing, will replace to fold to float and fold to probe

fold to 2bet turn

Very hard to get a sample on this, because few people raise OTT at a higher % than 10%, so it will be hard to get a decent sample

won't use this

raise cbet
Not sure about this one, but I've used this on occasion vs some people who were explo raising turns, like raising 34% over a 20 sample

cbet(3-bet pot)
This one is also very hard to get a sample on, but given how explo people play the turn in the games I play, I'll keep it, if I can find out people playing super passive in those spots it could be good. But some guys will even end up with a low turn cbet while overbluffing turn(if they cbet-x/j a lot)

raise cbet (3-bet pot)

impossible to get a sample on, deleting this

AFQ turn

IDK why, but I like having AFQ stats


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WWSF
WTSD
WSD
WWSF

Even though these stats take an insane amount of hands to converge into a solid result, I think the goal here isn't to know whether villain has 47 wwsf or 46 wwsf, the goal is to find if he is somewhat nitty or not. Like, if villain has a 45-55 WWSF, we can say that he is likely to be fighting for pots, while if in my sample the guy has a 39-45 wwsf, it's more likely that he is super passive post-flop and does a lot of trapping and less thin valuebets(over a 4k+ sample ofc). I know that in order for this to be accurate we would need around 50k+ hands, right?

WTSD

this one converge easier than the other ones, I don't use it much tbh, but I think it's good to have it. In some sessions when I was explo folding a lot, I got to a 19 WTSD a lot. Now that I've turned into a station it rarely gets that lol.

WSD

don't use this one much, but will just keep it in there, maybe vs some guys I have a sick sample on it could be useful.
09-28-2018 , 02:30 PM
So here is how my HUD and pop-up look like atm



It's extremely inneficient and a nightmare if you consider how much of actions I have to make to get into a certain stat. Also I lose time/attention by having to identify which street the stat is on, so I expect that if I simplify it, I'll have an increase in hands/hour and will play better on average, since I'll have more time to think about stuff than to making idiot tasks that won't have an impact.

Tomorrow I'll take the day off and on sunday I'll have my first big exam to work for the IRS here in Brazil. I have close to 0% chance to pass, but let's see how I do in there. After the test I'll finish the HUD

vaaaamooo!
10-02-2018 , 07:38 PM
Finally finished my new HUD! It looks so good! I think I'll get more hands/h with it and will get less tired with it. My goal when building it was to make it as simple as possible, with only relevant info so I could have a better time grinding.

In my last HUD I had to click on each tab, it was a nightmare, now everything I need is at one place and I grouped them by colors(like raise cbet stats, 3-bet pot stats). One friend of mine told me to just make a HUD with everything, without a pop-up, but imo it's better to have a small HUD with less information(but more often used info) and a pop-up for more detailed info. Basically if I put everything in my HUD without a pop-up I'll receive a lot of useless info all the time when I don't need it, and things like that go heavy on our cognition, we get tired easier/misread stuff.

HUD



pop-up




Btw, went poorly in my test, got 41 questions right out of 120(ABCDE), very bad results, to pass I think I would need at least 90/120. It was the toughest test I've seen in my life, had 35 pages and 5 hours to do.

In November I'll go to florianopolis for the next one, still a noob, but these government jobs are very hard to get, going more for the experience. Vaaaaaamoo!
10-02-2018 , 08:14 PM
41/120, yikes
10-02-2018 , 08:19 PM
At least you know if you fail your course you still have poker to fall back on.
10-02-2018 , 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
41/120, yikes
Yeah, but it's insane to pass in those jobs, I think the subjects I have to study are more extense than a law degree. I had studied close to 70% of them in 1 year, but didn't learn a lot of deep stuff and small things that are asked in those tests. I think it would be reasonable for me to pass in 3 years(so more 2). But there are people that are studying for this test for more than 6 years. Competition was 500/job lol.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
At least you know if you fail your course you still have poker to fall back on.
Lol, wp on that troll
10-03-2018 , 10:13 AM
Which test was this
10-03-2018 , 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick93
Which test was this
To work for the IRS as a taxman in my state. Here in Brazil(and I think in most countries) you have to beat a lot of people in a test to get those jobs. From what I heard, government jobs in countries like USA are **** compared to working in companies, right? Here it's the opposite: our economy is very inneficient and the state is very big compared to the private sector. Also the cost of labour is very low, and engineers are unservalued.

Basically most companies here are ran by people who werent very educated, mostly people who are sons/daughters of the previous owner, and since most of those don't know much about science and economics, they don't se much benefit in making their company more competitive by hiring industrial engineers(some don't even know what we do). And the big companies from other countries(coke, unilever, p&g, etc) even though they know how valuable engineers are, they also know that emgineers here have close to 0 option and will take them for cheap.

There was a case where people told me that embraer(a brazilian company that makes airplanes) decided to pay a company from outside of Brazil to make a specific scientifoc job for an insane price rather than train their engineers to do it (because they would have a high power to bargain against the company).

So yeah, my only viable option is to pass in those government jobs, I have better chances to pass in the central bank, but cant focus on that because those happen lezs often, there's also the option to study for petrobras(brazilian oil company), but it pays less.

These jobs are very hard to get, but after you get one it's gg life, you can't get fired and start working 6-8h/day but after a while you work for 4-6h/day. My father works in one(the same I've made the test this week), he works 4h/day and earns $10k/month, while a top engineer makes $5k/month working 8+ hours/day. If you manage to get into a management job in the private sector you could make more, but in order to do that you have to work insane hours(10+/day), during weekends, be good with people, which I can't do. The other option would be to leave Brazil and try to get an engineer job in other countries.

Even though the education I got was very good, I think people from other countries wouldn't value it as much, since it's better to just get a kid from harvard/yale/princeton. But from what I've seen, people in my class are killing in their jobs, a lot of them had 1 year studying in universities from other countries and said it was a piece of cake to pass with good grades in their subjects. They went to university of toronto, stanford, even one went to MIT.

It's tough, but that's my only option, these tests are brutal and the subjects are so annoting, law is so much bull****. But I think that my grades in the test will only start to go up substantially after I'm done covering all subjects and start just answering questions, which will probably happen in july next year.

Last edited by Rapidesh123; 10-03-2018 at 11:21 AM.
10-03-2018 , 12:52 PM
what kind of engineer are you?
10-03-2018 , 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gcm1998
what kind of engineer are you?
Industrial engineer

Played a small session today, ran like jesus haha vaaaaaaamo!

Worst hands of the day(so far, I'm pretty sure I'll come up with some super ******ed ones lol)

H1: vs station reg, should just barrel turn, quite bad x back and ******ed sizing OTR by me, but it's funny that he snap called, so I could come up with some valuebets for small in there later.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 429.3 BB
SB: 132.6 BB
BB: 115.4 BB
UTG: 309.22 BB
MP: 132.38 BB
CO: 126.04 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) K Q K
BB checks, Hero bets 1.26 BB, BB calls 1.26 BB

Turn: (7.66 BB, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (7.66 BB, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets 1.9 BB, BB calls 1.9 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows 9 T (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 52%, Flop 47%, Turn 33%)
BB shows 2 2 (Two Pair, Kings and Twos)
(Pre 48%, Flop 53%, Turn 67%)
BB wins 10.88 BB



H2: vs reg, bad fold by me, right?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 118.52 BB
SB: 107.92 BB
Hero (BB): 254.5 BB
UTG: 104.88 BB
MP: 138.94 BB
CO: 78.22 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 8

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 5 T J
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 5.64 BB, Hero calls 5.64 BB

River: (29.28 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 15 BB, fold

SB wins 27.82 BB


Now some good ones

H3: vs fish, turn is obv faceroll by me, but this kind of **** goes very well vs fish in textures like that. Love when I make them fold for those small sizings haha!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 337.38 BB
SB: 222.66 BB
BB: 53.36 BB
UTG: 102.5 BB
MP: 179.12 BB
CO: 100.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 5 6 5
SB checks, Hero bets 1.4 BB, SB calls 1.4 BB

Turn: (8.44 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB calls 10 BB

River: (28.44 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets 7.02 BB, fold

Hero wins 27.02 BB


H4: vs aggro reg, I wanted to call rivers so much since I'm a station now but stars trolls me and sends me an annoying river, so not today!

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 153.28 BB
SB: 116.36 BB
BB: 254.94 BB
UTG: 100.9 BB
MP: 67.36 BB
Hero (CO): 261.54 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.68 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) T 3 9
SB bets 7.54 BB, Hero calls 7.54 BB

Turn: (34.08 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 19.7 BB, Hero calls 19.7 BB

River: (73.48 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 80.12 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 69.8 BB


H5: vs tight player, thought about 3-bet jamming the river, but I feel like these guys always have a flush in there, don't think they fold enough lol

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 135.4 BB
Hero (BB): 250.38 BB
UTG: 105.22 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 155.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 7 6 9
Hero checks, BTN bets 2.2 BB, Hero calls 2.2 BB

Turn: (9.9 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (9.9 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 7.06 BB, BTN raises to 22.22 BB, fold

BTN wins 22.82 BB
10-04-2018 , 04:58 PM
Had a shot at 100z, went badly, I think I've played well, back to 50z again, bankroll is probably at $3.2k

Worst hand of the day

H1: this isn't that bad if villain is semi-bluffing enough and 4-betting enough, but I think that my pre-flop sizing could make his 4-bet range more nutted. But SB vs BTN it couldn't be that he would 4-bet only KK+ and some few bluffs. I think I've played well but OTT, where I should have just called, jamming folds his bluffs, also he could nit up in some rivers. I still underestimate villain's when it comes to bluffing the river.

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 265.72 BB
Hero (SB): 260.9 BB
BB: 122.86 BB
UTG: 242.3 BB
MP: 103.5 BB
CO: 104.08 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, BTN raises to 43 BB, Hero calls 28 BB

Flop: (87 BB, 2 players) 6 7 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 30 BB, Hero calls 30 BB

Turn: (147 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BTN bets 46 BB, Hero raises to 187.9 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 141.9 BB

River: (522.8 BB, 2 players) T
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (522.8 BB, 2 players) 7

Spoiler:
Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings)
Board #1 (Pre 18%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
(Two Pair, Kings and Sevens)
Board #2 (Pre 18%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)

BTN shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
Board #1 (Pre 82%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
(Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
Board #2 (Pre 82%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)

BTN wins 260.15 BB
BTN wins 260.15 BB


Now some good hands

H2: nice one to have when moving up again lol. Jamming river looks too strong and bet-folding is the other option, but at 100z I've decided to just go for max value

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 113.34 BB
Hero (SB): 196.29 BB
BB: 93.67 BB
UTG: 107.78 BB
MP: 579.09 BB
CO: 123.66 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, MP calls 12 BB

Flop: (31 BB, 2 players) A 6 8
Hero bets 7.66 BB, MP calls 7.66 BB

Turn: (46.32 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 33 BB, MP calls 33 BB

River: (112.32 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 140.63 BB and is all-in, MP calls 140.63 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 45%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
MP shows 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 55%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
MP wins 391.08 BB



H3: tanked until the last second, almost folded this, this hand explains why I get owned so much at 100z, can't believe people can be that ******ed lol

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 93.36 BB
BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 146.4 BB
MP: 132.23 BB
CO: 102.67 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 2

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) Q A T
BB checks, Hero bets 1.27 BB, BB calls 1.27 BB

Turn: (7.68 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 5.48 BB, BB calls 5.48 BB

River: (18.64 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 17.71 BB, Hero raises to 57.56 BB, BB raises to 92.43 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 33.37 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
BB shows T K (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 60%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows J 2 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 36%, Flop 40%, Turn 25%)
Hero wins 198 BB


H4: good times at 100z lol

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 139.51 BB
UTG: 96.74 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 135.31 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 7

UTG raises to 2.39 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 4.61 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 8 Q Q
UTG checks, Hero bets 3.83 BB, UTG calls 3.83 BB

Turn: (23.16 BB, 2 players) 9
UTG checks, Hero bets 16.5 BB, UTG calls 16.5 BB

River: (56.16 BB, 2 players) T
UTG bets 69.41 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 69.41 BB

Spoiler:
UTG shows T T (Full House, Tens full of Queens)
(Pre 78%, Flop 93%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows 6 7 (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 7%, Turn 25%)
UTG wins 192.48 BB


H5: good bluff OTT? I feel like fish float flop with a ton of overcards that will fold turn

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 96.35 BB
SB: 94.59 BB
Hero (BB): 265.67 BB
UTG: 37.58 BB
MP: 66.61 BB
CO: 291.51 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 6

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, SB calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, SB calls 10.5 BB

Flop: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 8 T 3
SB checks, Hero bets 14.08 BB, SB calls 14.08 BB

Turn: (56.66 BB, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets 238.59 BB and is all-in, SB calls 67.51 BB and is all-in

River: (191.68 BB, 2 players) A

Spoiler:
SB shows 9 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 66%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows 5 6 (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 34%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
SB wins 189.18 BB
10-04-2018 , 07:24 PM
Putting a fish on 8 outs and jamming 6 high doesn't seem very logical in H5.
10-04-2018 , 07:36 PM
Quote:
tanked until the last second
You tanked with the second nuts in a 165bb pot for a 33bb bet. I guess it sums up the thread: a huge fail.

You should look back at the big folds you've made in the past and then look back at this hand and then laugh at yourself while learning something from those idiotic hands.
10-04-2018 , 07:36 PM
H5, you still haven't worked out how to play against fish, have you? Don't jam your 5 high when they're calling off with any draw and most of their pairs.
10-04-2018 , 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .isolated
You tanked with the second nuts in a 165bb pot for a 33bb bet. I guess it sums up the thread: a huge fail.

You should look back at the big folds you've made in the past and then look back at this hand and then laugh at yourself while learning something from those idiotic hands.
What would someome jam the river with? Bluffing in that spot is clearly beyond ******ed. Also most people are fine by just calling with their weak flushes. I really can't believe that there are poker players that are so ******ed to do that with that hand. Lots of folds I've made were bad though, because I was folding everything but flushes vs this guy's donk and 3rd nut flushes vs the jam

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
H5, you still haven't worked out how to play against fish, have you? Don't jam your 5 high when they're calling off with any draw and most of their pairs.
Should I x back? I need around 40-45% folds for this to be breakeven
10-04-2018 , 08:45 PM
H1. Fold pre. I don't pay sad nits who are face up. As played XF rivers. Going broke 260bb with 1P is terrible, so naturally you went broke.


H2. Still doing the crappy 1/3 cbet size even when deep stacked. Deservedly stacked.


H3. lul.


H5. I guess you missed my 'don't squeeze 76s' lesson over in Bens thread. That's what you get for ignoring my advice as usual. It's an easy flat pre but nah you wanted to be a hero. Deservedly stacked.
10-04-2018 , 10:13 PM
Played more, at some point got into positive territory, then lost 4 BI really fast lol. Probably -4BI for today, I think my bankroll is at $3.1k

Bonus hands

H6: vs reg that has a fold button installed in his computer, so sad to see the 2p

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 313.31 BB
SB: 119.45 BB
BB: 94.33 BB
UTG: 176.9 BB
MP: 204.84 BB
CO: 134.95 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, CO calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 12.5 BB, CO calls 12.5 BB

Flop: (46.5 BB, 3 players) A 6 5
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets 11.49 BB, fold, CO calls 11.49 BB

Turn: (69.48 BB, 2 players) J
CO checks, Hero bets 17.41 BB, CO calls 17.41 BB

River: (104.3 BB, 2 players) 4
CO checks, Hero bets 269.41 BB and is all-in, CO calls 91.05 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows Q T (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 43%, Flop 3%, Turn 9%)
CO shows 4 A (Two Pair, Aces and Fours)
(Pre 57%, Flop 97%, Turn 91%)
CO wins 283.9 BB



H7: vs whale, wp or too thin? tbh I think it's hard to ever valuebet too thin in 100z lol

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 442.77 BB
SB: 250.49 BB
BB: 298.92 BB
UTG: 246.9 BB
MP: 205.89 BB
CO: 309.11 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 3

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 8 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 4 A 3
MP checks, Hero bets 15.32 BB, MP calls 15.32 BB

Turn: (52.14 BB, 2 players) 8
MP checks, Hero bets 44.68 BB, MP calls 44.68 BB

River: (141.5 BB, 2 players) 6
MP checks, Hero bets 372.77 BB and is all-in, MP calls 135.89 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows A 3 (Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
(Pre 56%, Flop 66%, Turn 80%)
MP shows T K (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 34%, Turn 20%)
MP wins 410.78 BB


H8: lol, got owned, but what else can I do OTF?

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 37.75 BB
BB: 308.11 BB
Hero (UTG): 411.22 BB
MP: 268.76 BB
CO: 189.52 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, CO calls 2.32 BB, BTN calls 2.32 BB, SB raises to 3.64 BB, fold, Hero raises to 16.56 BB, fold, BTN calls 14.24 BB, SB calls 12.92 BB

Flop: (53 BB, 3 players) 3 8 A
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 25.25 BB, SB calls 21.19 BB and is all-in, fold

Turn: (95.38 BB, 2 players) 6

River: (95.38 BB, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:
Spoiler:
SB shows 8 Q (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 57%, Flop 73%, Turn 86%)
BTN shows T J (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 43%, Flop 27%, Turn 14%)
SB wins 92.88 BB



H9: vs finland, our metagame is very weird atm lol!

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 426.44 BB
SB: 332.76 BB
BB: 115.38 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 182.98 BB
CO: 63.82 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 2 T 7
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (5.14 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 8 BB, BB calls 8 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows Q K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 62%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)
BB shows T 7 (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Pre 38%, Flop 90%, Turn 100%)
BB wins 20.08 BB



H10: 100z lol

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 246.33 BB
SB: 101.85 BB
BB: 106.23 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB
MP: 154.32 BB
CO: 47.27 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 9 BB

Flop: (25.5 BB, 2 players) 7 4 Q
MP bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (49.5 BB, 2 players) Q
MP bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

River: (97.5 BB, 2 players) T
MP checks, Hero bets 198.33 BB and is all-in, MP calls 106.32 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows Q A (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 62%, Flop 78%, Turn 100%)
MP shows 7 6 (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
(Pre 38%, Flop 22%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 307.64 BB


H11: special sizing for a special reg, lol, these guys station soooo much

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 264.47 BB
SB: 101 BB
Hero (BB): 139.01 BB
UTG: 106.22 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 1094.39 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 3

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 7 3
SB checks, Hero bets 2.96 BB, SB calls 2.96 BB

Turn: (11.92 BB, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (11.92 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, SB calls 20 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows T 3 (Two Pair, Tens and Threes)
(Pre 38%, Flop 20%, Turn 11%)
SB mucks J 9 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 62%, Flop 80%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 49.42 BB


H12: vs reg, he called in less than 1/10 of a second lol, maybe he had "call any" activated? Why do I bluff vs people like that?

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 280.14 BB
SB: 170.89 BB
BB: 192.48 BB
UTG: 111.55 BB
MP: 274.74 BB
CO: 104.11 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 7

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.2 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 4.8 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 4 K J
CO checks, Hero bets 3.83 BB, CO calls 3.83 BB

Turn: (23.16 BB, 2 players) 3
CO checks, Hero bets 16.5 BB, CO calls 16.5 BB

River: (56.16 BB, 2 players) 6
CO checks, Hero bets 252.81 BB and is all-in, CO calls 76.78 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows 5 7 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 35%, Flop 5%, Turn 9%)
CO shows 9 K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 65%, Flop 95%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 207.22 BB


H13: this hand explains why I'm -EV at 100z lifetime lol. It's so bad to give this up OTR, I'm already giving up with all BDFDs, should I just never bluff in spots like that?

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 102.06 BB
SB: 196.77 BB
BB: 142.74 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 350.02 BB
CO: 125.49 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 7

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB raises to 10.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 8.18 BB

Flop: (22 BB, 2 players) 3 T K
SB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (36 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 17.78 BB, SB calls 17.78 BB

River: (71.56 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 66.78 BB and is all-in, SB calls 66.78 BB

Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Hero shows 9 7 (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 21%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)
SB shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
(Pre 79%, Flop 90%, Turn 100%)
SB wins 202.62 BB



H14: vs reg, he snap called =(

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 252.63 BB
SB: 104.39 BB
BB: 146.32 BB
UTG: 169.84 BB
MP: 143.59 BB
CO: 199.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) Q T 8
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.14 BB, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 8
BB bets 2.44 BB, Hero raises to 9.76 BB, BB calls 7.32 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows 6 6 (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
(Pre 69%, Flop 82%, Turn 80%)
BB shows 5 A (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
(Pre 31%, Flop 18%, Turn 20%)
BB wins 23.43 BB
10-04-2018 , 10:32 PM
H6. You should not be putting a dime into the pot post flop, what the hell do you think they are flatting you with pre? lol. Trying to get them off Ax is ******ed. Deservedly stacked.

H7. too thin. out whaled.

H9. Finland confirmed sad nit.

H12. You are clearly burning money vs those type of players. X turn.

H13. Giving up river? you should be giving up on flop. You missed the flop, simple fold but as usual looking for any stupid excuse to float. Deservedly stacked.

H14. Fold river.

I'm sure Shelly is looking forward to battling you soon.

      
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