Dont you think you triple barrel a bit too much? I mean F+T looks okay, given that you´re on the bottom of your range, but you almost got no equity. Also you are pretty polarized on the turn since you probably won´t bet 77-QQ anymore, right? (On the other hand you bet all youre Kx, Ax and 66 and AA so i guess it´s fine?!) But what do you expect him to fold on the river? And if you think he is floating like a dumbass just ch/shove the river :P
Dont you think you triple barrel a bit too much? I mean F+T looks okay, given that you´re on the bottom of your range, but you almost got no equity. Also you are pretty polarized on the turn since you probably won´t bet 77-QQ anymore, right? (On the other hand you bet all youre Kx, Ax and 66 and AA so i guess it´s fine?!) But what do you expect him to fold on the river? And if you think he is floating like a dumbass just ch/shove the river :P
He can have stubborn pairs or double floats, and I can't check-shove the river with that SPR.
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.19 BB, fold, Hero raises to 7.56 BB, fold, CO calls 5.38 BB
Flop:(16.13 BB, 2 players) K A T Hero bets 7.94 BB, CO calls 7.94 BB
Turn:(32 BB, 2 players) Q Hero checks, CO checks
River:(32 BB, 2 players) Q Hero bets 84.5 BB and is all-in, CO calls 84.5 BB
Spoiler:
Hero shows K K (Full House, Kings full of Queens)
(Pre 72%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%) CO shows A Q (Full House, Queens full of Aces)
(Pre 28%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%) Hero wins 191.94 BB
H2: is it good to fold on spade rivers? Or trips + no kicker is strong enough to never fold in a B vs B pot 100 bb deep on that board?
Turn:(14 BB, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero bets 6.94 BB, SB raises to 25 BB, Hero calls 18.06 BB
River:(64 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 38 BB, Hero raises to 68 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 133.69 BB
H3: sizing OTT was really 100% nutted, I used to mindless jam on that spot with combo draws, donking the river is fine, right? It's easy to balance it with busted spade draws, not that I would like to make it balanced vs people like that ofc
Playing more consistent, can't remember of the last tilt I had, but volume is really low and soon will become lower. in 1 week I'll go back to my home town to start the internship =(
Staying at NL16 for a long time will be good for me, the player pool is small (50-200 people), so I can develop reads and focus on exploiting people as much as I can, I think it will be better to learn how to do that than to play a huge player pool like NL25(which usually have 200-500 people, saw almost 1k people there once). In big player pools you can get away by playing atrocious, since it's hard to play the same villains, so you don't get punished so much, also there's variance in which villains you play against.
graph of today's session
Some hands
H1: decided to min-raise to represent a pocket pair(like 99), after villain 3-betted, he was full of crap a ton of the time, my K high still had SDV and decided to float, same OTT, OTR decided to bet to fold some A high. Don't know what to do if he jammed, with A high I would probably call.
River:(114.88 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 42.81 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 109.69 BB
H2: decided to check because the board was really bad for me, if I got raised it would be really tough, since even villain's bluffs would have ton of equity vs AA. Also by checking I allow them to valuebet worse hands.
H3: in these stakes, I think it's a fold OTT, decided to call because thought he could be doing it with QQ/KK, but probably he 4-bets them pre. It's nitty, but every time I see stuff like that in UTG dynamics(or min-raises) it usually turns out to be a very strong range
River:(83.25 BB, 2 players) 5 Hero bets 58.63 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 58.63 BB
Spoiler:
Hero shows A K (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 69%, Flop 31%, Turn 16%) BTN shows A J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 31%, Flop 69%, Turn 84%) BTN wins 191.5 BB
About this hand, I'm overbluffing in this spot, right? Villain needs to be right on a call 30% of the time, can someone give tips in which hands should I use as bluffs here and which should I check-fold?
Here are my valuebets OTR:
AA/KK: 12 combos
JJ/QQ: 6 combos
JQs: 3 combos
AQ: 12 combos
56hh: 1 combo
Total of valuebet combos: 34
Now here are the hands I get to the river with this line:
KTs/9Ts = 8 combos
AK = 16 combos
AThh = 1 combo
98hh/76hh/78hh/45hh/45ss = 5 combos
Total air combos: 30
x/(34+x) = 0,3 -> 0,7 =~ 15 combos.
So which combos should I choose to bluff with?
My idea here is that I should pick combos that block villain's river calling range and that don't block his drawing/floating range, like hands with no heart. Also having some SDV value is fine, since it can win the pot sometimes(if villain has no balls).
The ones I chose were: KTs/9Ts(with no heart) = 6 combos, because they blocked some combos of KT/TJ/KQ/KJ and didn't block the flush draws.
Then, thought that the second best candidates would be AK without heart(since it blocks AQ/AJ/KQ), so more 9 combos.
So by this logic, those are 15 bluff combos, but the sad part is that my checking range will be filled with hands with no SDV if I do that. Should I choose my bluffs more based on blockers or SDV?
If I would choose SDV, then I would bluff with KTs/9Ts = 8 combos, SCs = 5 combos, and 2 random AK without hearts(I prefer not having AThh as a bluff, since there's a chance villain could check behind his AThh thinking they're good when I'm holding AK).
About this hand, I'm overbluffing in this spot, right? Villain needs to be right on a call 30% of the time, can someone give tips in which hands should I use as bluffs here and which should I check-fold?
Hands that block a calling range, but do not block a folding range. Which you state and your analysis is good.
Flaws in analysis: We don't 3b all the hands you have listed in your range with 100% weight and we don't play them all to the river like that. Which means actual value combos is much lower. AK with no heart is the best. Next best would be something like A3s no hearts or other 3x no heart combos
Last edited by Brokenstars; 04-15-2017 at 06:52 PM.
Bankroll is at $416, had some coolers, tilted off 2 BI, it seems that I'm more likely to tilt if I'm hungry ;~, since I'm living off delivery food and my routine is messed up, I don't always eat something right after I wake up.
Some hands I'm almost sure expo folding is best, but couldn't make them.
River:(69.5 BB, 3 players) T Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB, MP raises to 78 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 59 BB
Spoiler:
MP shows 2 2 (Four of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 18%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%) Hero shows 5 5 (Full House, Fives full of Twos)
(Pre 82%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%) MP wins 235.13 BB
H2: vs semi-loose passive guy, weaktight one, I'm paying these guys off a ton of the time, since they limp like fish do, I mark them as fish, and hey just fold all the time until they have a good hand, so my thin valuebets vs them are burning money.
Do you guys see a ton of people like that? what strats do you use against them? They have like 20/2-40/9 VPIP/PFR, 1 AF, 1% 3-bet and high W$D.
Flop:(9.5 BB, 2 players) A 8 K UTG checks, Hero bets 8.13 BB, UTG raises to 33 BB, Hero raises to 125.56 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 60.63 BB and is all-in
Turn:(196.75 BB, 2 players) Q
River:(196.75 BB, 2 players) 7
Spoiler:
UTG shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 94%, Flop 99.9%, Turn 100%) Hero shows A 8 (Two Pair, Aces and Eights)
(Pre 6%, Flop 0.1%, Turn 0%) UTG wins 187.88 BB
Hands that block a calling range, but do not block a folding range. Which you state and your analysis is good.
Flaws in analysis: We don't 3b all the hands you have listed in your range with 100% weight and we don't play them all to the river like that. Which means actual value combos is much lower. AK with no heart is the best. Next best would be something like A3s no hearts or other 3x no heart combos
thanks for the help, so should I check more hands OTT so I don't have to check-fold so much OTR? Like checking my AhKx/AxKh and keep barreling with the rest(which have tons of equity, excluding other AK combos, which have way less)
and in my analysis I didn't consider A2s-A5s, so there are more bluffs there OTR
I wonder if cbetting is better than check calling on the flop with AK
check-calling is usually bad, some guys will even valuebet small PPs and pot control OTT, we need to put pressure in those hands rather than getting pressure from them.
Unless we have some strong hands in your checking range so we can check-raise, we can't check here too often with AK, in this texture I prefer putting maximum amount of pressure, while in boards like K27r it's fine checking some Kx/KK. Now in boards that hit villain pretty hard, like J96ssh, we should check way more, even with good hands
Hey guys, GG for my original challenge, tomorrow I'll move back home, don't know when I'll play again, but will figure out a schedule so I can play on fridays/saturdays, which are the best days of poker.
Will post way less from now on, but will keep updating this as I play. Won't have much time to study poker, but playing is a good way to learn, specially since I'll play while rested and tbh I was with a little of an overdose from poker. Will keep on NL16, will focus on exploiting the most I can vs all player types(regfish/whales/weaktight/nits) and playing decent poker before I move up. I don't care about taking shots for a while until I correct my game and start getting the maximum I can from each player.
New goals
-Play well
-Play 10k hands/month
-Learn how to take the maximum off each player, even if I have to take super unorthodox lines.
-Never tilt.
I'll be in this low-volume state for around 6 months, after that I'll play even less, will study 24/7, only stopping to see my closest friends, exercise/eat.
btw, in the last sessions I was focusing on exploiting weaktight players, like semi-fish and nits. I always escaped pretty well from nit's valuebets, but against weaktight fish I got destroyed in this year, I can't stop valuebetting thin vs them when they never pay me off. Also paid them off a lot on small spots which matter in the long run. The good thing is that in this year I learned how to deal with maniacs and call super light(grew some cojones lol).
Here is a hand that explains my experimentations vs nits/weaktight villains. I want to make the maximum I can vs them. weaktight fish never adapt and can't handread, so I can do whatever I want vs them. Now vs nits, I think I should spread the aggression between the streets, like 3-bet slightly lighter, raise flop cbets slightly higher, while doing the same with turns and rivers, while barrelling more too.
H1: vs big nit, used to call a lot OTR, but they almost always have a better hand here, either a better midpair or a weak top pair, so even though I never have flushes here, decided to turn the hand into a bluff and represent the flush. Vs a smart villain it would be bad, but this is the kind of stuff I'm trying to pull in order to destroy those guys.
New goals
-Play well
-Play 10k hands/month
-Learn how to take the maximum off each player, even if I have to take super unorthodox lines.
-Never tilt.
"-Learn how to take the maximum off each player, even if I have to take super unorthodox lines."
Sounds like the last thing you need, judging by your style/graphs. I think you should focus on becoming more steady/consecutive in your style. Just an opinion
"-Learn how to take the maximum off each player, even if I have to take super unorthodox lines."
Sounds like the last thing you need, judging by your style/graphs. I think you should focus on becoming more steady/consecutive in your style. Just an opinion