1 year $150k is probably breakeven. Because early career growth is parabolic and bc 2 yr gap is hard to explain I’d say a 2 year gap would require $400k of earn in same period. This is for your field specifically, if this was 6bet I would say keep on grinding bro. This is what no one is getting. If you wanted to be a pro poker player, I would not be posting any of this advice. I would say you do you and enjoy the thread from the sidelines as I have for years. But that is not your stated goal.

When re-entering:

Absolutely under no circumstances mention poker. It doesn’t matter if you made $1 million. You will be a degenerate to them.

Gaps are huge red flags, perhaps the biggest red flag. You need to be able to talk it with extreme confidence.

A child was born > a family member took ill and you had to care for them > you started a business > you took a sabbatical to see the world

In a previous role I mentored 1-2 interns per semester and had a high success rate for offers. I’ve also interviewed / hired analysts myself, as well as done quite a few of my own interviewing / working with recruiters (I’ve made 3 major career moves in 9 years). I’d be happy to review your resume and provide interview coaching whenever you are ready to re-enter (not saying you need this, I’d guess you interview quite well. Just offering. Especially with the gap explain.)

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Regarding the $100k vs $50k example posted, I agree with the exact posted example but what most don’t realize is more money =/= more stress. It is the opposite, as you move up the corporate ladder you do far less work. Which is why broken re-entering the workforce would be important for his long term goals. I can’t post my own example without getting another 100 insecure posts but anyone that has moved up in a corporation knows these truths. Look at my daily post counts. I am getting paid to take dumps make cat memes and post on 2p2. Broken wants to re-enter at some point. I’m trying to help him improve his $/dump ev.

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See now that's funny.

Has BS even suggested he wants to go back to an employer? There are cases where your assertion that higher tiered positions equate to less work, and some certainly seem to. What percentage of jobs would you say fall under that category though? I used to recruit in BS' neck of the woods, engineers in fact at times, and I would say the number of positions where work becomes minimal is, well we're talking the 1-3%. I believe you said it yourself, engineers are becoming a dime a dozen. Perhaps it seems that way in my demographic because we have Iowa State a few hours away which has pretty decent programs and Rockwell Collins and John Deere employ a ****load of engineers in our area.

Not being in the workforce will undoubtedly push him a step back in the rate at which he climbs the ranks to higher paying positions. It's traction lost and time not bolstering his resume. But he most certainly can overcome the gap in employment and re-enter the field.

This was too good!

Strim tonight still on?

Yeah here soon guest star adam001 too I think

Oh so your seasoned played that is not bothered by 10 buyin downswing? It is small but it effects everyone. Nobody likes to lose. I like how these so called pros act like they are ice and losing doesn't bother them and then tell other people they lack experience. Pretty hilarious. Unless your zen buddha thats found enlightenment I am sure you don't like to lose either.

Broken is not a old fart. Hes young guy and I don't think hes this crusher like everyone thinks cause I have watched him a few times and he does miss some basic +ev spots but he is way better then I was when I was 24. And I am sure he is a lot better then you. I think he will be fine but imo needs more volume and over time it will all work out for him. He can definitely be a 6 figure player but hes gotta be dedicated to doing this and dealing with a 50 to 60 buyin down swing that will come in the future. Nobody likes it but you learn to deal with it after it happens a few time and you work your way out of it. Just look at innerpyschos graph. He flips out during bad sessions and punches the table and screams out stuff in russian. Doesn't mean innerpsycho lacks experience cause he doesn't like going through downswing. But he continues to grind and works his way out of it. I think you guys are trying to cause him more stress and thats just not needed. I think a lot of you are mad cause he doing what a lot of you could not do at his age and you guys gotta go work your ****ty 9 to 5.

Nobody likes to lose but if you play enough hands and have confidence that you're making correct decisions, you're not gonna be effected by the results.

I went on a 60 buy in down swing. The way I got through it was on the 53 buy-in I reminded myself it is just variance and my game is solid. I took a breath and lost 7 more buy-ins.

Lol

I had had a 60 buyin down swing with my ev line + 10bb/100. Pretty sure my game was solid. Just cause your losing doesn't mean your playing poorly. Its variance in poker. Doug even had 1.7m downswing for a year. It happens to even the best players. If you guys don't know that then you haven't grinded enough amount of hands to experience it. You guys are giving him hard time over 10 buyins. Like you guys are trying to make him quit poker.

Yeah exactly. This is the exact reason I don’t understand Live Poker. I guess players are way worse but I feel like you could lose for like two years plus at high stakes

Yeah but live you've got like 30 bb/100 or whatever. Relatively few swings there

The equities run to close to know whether you are making the correct decision or not in every hand you play. Basically your trying to find +ev situations and capitalize on them but its a game of incomplete information. Your going to be wrong a lot of the time too. If you have confidence your always making the correct decision then that is just your ego deluding your mind.

I remember Mathew Jaunda said Ben Sulsky walked up to him and asked his advice about a hand and went into deep thinking on Mathew advice. Mathew said he could not believe how even someone as great as Ben still learning the game and asking questions but its whats made him great player. Its just hard to know sometimes if you made correct decision or not. Broken is just reacting like a lot of grinders do after a tough session. I don't see whats wrong with questioning your play and trying to improve instead of assuming your always making the right play and your great player.We have basic correct decisions that should be easy to make which I understand your talking about but we get in a lot more complex situations especially as we move up in limits. Its not as cut and dry what to do. Ask any great player during a downswing how they felt about it. If they say it doesn't effect them they are straight up lying.

Well one thing with live poker is it usually is 9 max. So the variance is lower and you can wait for premiums. So that helps a little bit with the variance in live games and you got hot watresses coming by asking if you need anything making you not care about variance.

But they can lose for years playing live cause the volume is not enough unless they are gonna do like Phil Ivey and play 16 hr sessions every day. Thats how he got his name no home jerome cause people thought he lived at the casino. I think he said his longest session was like 46 hrs. Its something crazy. He would never leave maybe 3 or 4 hrs he said he would go home and come right back. Even during the Stu Ungar times for them to take on the variance live they would play for 3 or 4 days straight and not leave the casino. Its funny cause I am reading blogs and people are saying they quit after 2 hrs cause their eyes were sore.

Live you play your equity as its realized and essentially collude with the field.

i.e. when a tight omc you half thought was dead opens 6x utg and gets 7 callers you smile and flat JJ otb. Then you still somehow manage to stack him and 2 others even though the flop went 16 ways when you flop your set.

This is why live is slightly challenging (patience is a rare trait) and also why there is less variance overall.

RE the posts higher up in the thread, I got a top strategy consulting job basically solely citing poker as my work experience. I had a good degree, but only spoke about poker in interview, made a big PDF explaining analysis etc I had done, they absolutely loved it - I think it depends what approach you took.

That said, I did not enjoy strategy consulting and back playing poker, so I guess if anyone wants to buy the PDF, PM

After my challenge is over you and me playing 50k hands hu on 4 tables. Since I see you only play holdem that is what we will play. You better be as good as you think you are or you might be going back to that 9 to 5 sooner then you think. I will be streaming it live on twitch so everyone can see how great you are including all your students.

This was my point. My mantra is: results don't matter, decisions do. Remembering this makes me always strive to improve whether I win or lose. The mantra also helps to not tilt when taking a bunch of bad beats.

The "confidence" I was referring to isn't the "I know this is right" type of confidence but more "I think I played it well and I'll study it later to make sure" type.

This would be a great watch, just sayin. I dout it will happen but hopefully by some miracle it will.

And then when you're done you can both drop your pants and see whose dick is bigger. Might have a hard time streaming that one though.

Jfc. You should probably get out of 4nl first before shouting your mouth off.

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