Seems like the work off the table worked out very nicely. You wrote that u changed some aspect of your game. I would be interested in knowing what it is, as I'm playing the same kind of game on GG.

Hey man. Yeah I’m feeling confident about some of the changes made so far. Basically I was cbetting and barrelling turn too much, especially OOP. Also was defending too wide vs 3B OOP. Few other things like BB defence also. Basically all stuff I’m still working on, as well as many other leaks I’m sure. Just feels good to (hopefully) be heading in the right direction, albeit slowly. Got so much work to do and so much to learn lol.

War, it never ends.

WP Darcy, super redline on the last g

Yeah the lol at the end express so well the emotion. Not sure if funny, or I'm going to burst into tears. haha. Nice that you feel more confident about your game! Those 3B pots and playing BB is where you can find the biggest edge in the zoom pool IMO. I've been experiencing with using more creative sizing. sometimes targeting specific region of my opponent range, and other times playing a more ''balanced strat'' (against better players) and only thinking in terms of how much my range would like to bet on average. Food for thoughts.

Thanks guys, appreciate the encouragement. Agree with you skullkid that in general the 10z pool plays terribly in 3B pots. A lot of edge to be had there, even by a clueless player like me.

Here's the results from March... 24 BI under EV. Pretty testing month in terms of mental game. Glad to have survived it, wishing it'd gone smoother in terms of green line lol.



Surely deserving of a huge heater involving a 25z shot in April?

Bankroll currently at $682 thanks to rakeback and not tilting.

Killing it Darc.

What's your bankroll strat? 27BIs seems fairly ample with 50k under EV like that at 10z (I'm guessing if you've been burnt before you're looking for a more comfortable position?)

Wait till Elizabeth finds out about this.

Congrats on what appears to be a very successful month at least in terms of EV. This looks like you're at a bit over 6evbb over a >50k hand sample and while likely having to deal with a lot of negative variance. If you take a look at your other graphs it seems apparent you've made a lot of successful changes and have implemented them well.

With regards to variance, there's nothing we can do but just accept it and grind through it (both good and bad)--simply strive to make the best decision with the information available and click to the next hand.

I'm really excited to see how April turns out for you and wish you the best of luck at the tables!

Awesome month mate, and solid volume! Good to see you're saving the EV until you're at some higher stakes

Cheers yo! Don't really have a rigid bankroll plan, but was planning to shot 25z again at $750, probably for about 4 BI or so then move down if it goes badly.



I like this attitude, thanks man.

Thanks for the kind words, and for your help + advice of course! Implementing appropriate changes so far has been highly satisfying. Need to do more consistent work away from the tables still but glad things are headed in the right direction and that I at least have an idea of what type of stuff to study at this point.

Yo, time for an update. Probably obvious but I'm taking a more relaxed attitude to this thread than I had first intended, basically just updating a few times per month when I feel like it.

Can't really be bothered so share many hands in the thread as the HH converter doesn't work for me and selecting hands + posting screenshots takes just long enough for me to not feel like doing it.

Tried to shot 25z twice in April so far, both times going about as bad as they possibly could. The first I time my bankroll was at $750 felt I played quite solid but lost 10 BI in a very short period. This felt out of my control and very unlucky.

I decided to grind back 10 BI at 10z and get the roll to at least $600 before trying again. Told myself I would lose 4 BI maximum and then repeat this process until I got to $600 again and eventually caught some rungood at 25z. Anyway that failed miserably and I played pretty terribly combined with a very **** run of cards and ended up dusting off 14 BI at 25z.

Am currently in the process of rebuilding at 10z, feeling annoyed with myself and annoyed that things didn't go smoothly. That's the nature of the game though. Still feeling highly motivated to improve and move up eventually. Goal is still to be beating 50z by the end of the year, so there's plenty of time for that to happen.

Nothing tilts me more than when I play badly, suckouts, coolers and running under EV are all really frustrating things but I forget about them within an hour or so after closing the tables. Playing terribly sticks with me for much longer and it's a **** feeling, trying to use that as motivation to do more serious study and be more disciplined during sessions.

Anyway here are some sad idiot graphs:

25z shot #1:



25z shot #2:



10z in April so far:



Praying I continue to run well at 10z until the end of the month and can be shotting 25z again in early May. Bank roll currently at $330

Let's go!

Hey, gl with your challenge. Don't get worried about losing at 25z, you are clearly a winning player at 10z and I really can't imagine 25z is much different. I would consider depositing more money so you could play 25z, as you are definitely going to be +EV

Agree, maybe it's a mental issue? Don't know since you didn't post any hands. Maybe it helps to show big blinds ingame instead of $, unless you already do that

Just my 2c which doesn't mean much since I started at 2NL 2 days ago

Thanks for the encouragement. I feel good about my game most of the time in the 10z pool, and feel I can definitely beat 25z also. Don't really want to deposit more as grinding it back will be good for my confidence anyway, and I think I still have plenty of time to hit my goal of beating 50z by year's end. Hopefully we're back at 25z by next month and things go better.


Thanks man, I already play showing BB on the tables, everything makes much more sense that way. During my first shot I felt mentally very good despite getting a terrible run of variance. During my second attempt there was definitely some unhelpful mental pressure presented by wanting to succeed at the stake very badly, and it caused me to play worse for sure. Made some terrible punts that were totally avoidable. Good luck at 2NL!

Yo! Time for that end of the month update. April was a rough one for sure, I tried to break into 25z three times (still going with the third shot at the moment). Zoom is such a brutal format, it seems fairly -EV long term. I really want to beat at least 25z or 50z before I move to regular tables though, as I feel this will give me a really solid and proven foundation over a good sample size moving forward.

I feel I haven't made many significant changes to my playstyle since last month, however my red line goes down now instead of straight up. Truly not sure why. Overall the 25z pool feels significantly harder tbh, regs hero call and bluff much more often from what I've seen so far.

Despite having a frustrating month I'm absolutely loving poker and really, really want to be good it more than I ever have. I've learned so much since the beginning of this thread, but it's such slow going out in the zoom streets.

Here are the graphs for April

10z:


25z :


Despite getting crushed right now my bankroll is still fairly healthy at $590


This is due to rakeback and running very well in these cooked all in preflop freerolls that GG has that you get entered into when you get sucked out on/coolered.

Hope everyone's had a better April than me. Excited to do much better in May

Always a good feeling seing someone have drive and pasion for learning. Man 25z is hell of a fight. But you seem to have a direction with your learning. So facing tough customer will make you improve faster.

That 25z graph is brutal, I guess I won't complain mysels anymore damnnn

I'm thinking the same way about zoom, play lots of hands and play reg tables a little higher up

Keep it up bro

Keep working hard bro. Our time is coming we just have to be there to catch it.

Thanks Skull, keep posting in your thread every day man, the quick and consistent progress is inspiring.

Not sure if it's the best method bet let's hope it pays off for us in the long term!

Thanks man, hope you crush it in May

I got crushed when I first moved up to 25nlz, I'm still not 100% confident I'm winning there yet! Keep at it!

What's up guys? Hope everyone's had a decent grind in May. I can't believe 5 months of the year are already down.

I've managed to have my first ever winning month at 25z, although only by a tiny margin (1EVbb/100), and the graph is super ugly...




The start of the month I experience a brief upswing then a monster downswing. I think I've realised that my mental game was lacking severely over a really significant period of time due to running so bad when I started there. This caused me to play too passively, as well as just play poorly in lots of spots in general. I really feel I have managed to improve in this area in the latter half of this month.

To focus on a positive note - I feel I am playing with much more confidence and consistency over my last 35k hands at 25z. I am definitely running well in both card distribution and AIEV over this sample, but I really feel I have managed to stablilise a bit at this stake finally, and all lines have finally been heading in the right direction for a decent period.

Graph of last 35k only:



Maybe it's pointless and delusional to focus in on a smaller sample where I am doing well, but as it is the latest chunk of hands I've played, it's somewhat reassuring to see that I am doing at least a few things right compared to a few weeks ago.

I am definitely still far from a confirmed winner at 25z, but I feel confident that I'm at least improving. I can happily state that I am SO much better at the game than when I started this thread in January. From anything to analysing flop textures, ranges or even just knowing what I'm supposed to be trying to learn in order to improve, my understanding in almost every area has improved immensely.

Have played a very high amount of hands during this challenge compared to how much I've studied away from the tables. Slowly improving in this aspect, but got a long way to go.

Shout out to anyone who has posted in this thread with encouragement and advice so far, plus everyone else who has looked over hands I've sent them etc.

I'm still struggling pretty hard, and I'm not very satisfied with my results so far, but I couldn't be more encouraged to keep going at the moment. This game is so challenging and I'm determined not to give up.

GLGL in June to you all.

Bankroll: $1200

You got this! Definitely on schedule to be breaking into 50z before the end of year.

Hell yeah I can smell us at 50nl in a few months Darcy! Last 35k hands look great, the big downswing before must be mostly variance imo, like 25 bi straight down in 13k hands or so jeeesus

Great progress mate keep it up!

Good progress man! Keep plugging away!

Great stuff mate GL in June