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04-17-2021 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by georgelboss
Congrats, sir! Well done!
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
Congratz! Nice results
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Originally Posted by BobbyPeru
Nice results OP

Thanks! I will try to keep it up! Will take another a shot at 500z soon.
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04-20-2021 , 03:18 AM
Some interesting hands from 500z:

H1: what would you do with the shoving? call some pocket pair with a diamond? I think he is shoving AA/KK/QQ no diamond a lot here.

    Ignition - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    BTN: $440.71 (88.1 bb)
    Hero (SB): $497.50 (99.5 bb)
    BB: $146.10 (29.2 bb)
    UTG: $302.00 (60.4 bb)
    CO: $512.40 (102.5 bb)

    Hero posts SB $2.50, BB posts $5.00

    Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) Hero has T T
    fold, CO raises to $15.00, fold, Hero raises to $55.00, fold, CO raises to $126.50, Hero calls $71.50

    Flop: ($258.00, 2 players) 3 9 5
    Hero checks, CO bets $385.90 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Results: $258.00 pot ($0.00 rake)
    Final Board: 3 9 5

    CO wins $258.00


    H2: Bluff catch or not? I think the pool will overbluff on this river card.

      Ignition - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

      UTG: $527.50 (105.5 bb)
      CO: $1,121.83 (224.4 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $554.50 (110.9 bb)
      SB: $775.55 (155.1 bb)
      BB: $500.00 (100 bb)

      SB posts $2.50, BB posts $5.00

      Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) Hero has 6 7, SB has
      2 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, SB raises to $52.50, fold, Hero calls $40.00

      Flop: ($110.00, 2 players) 7 2 J
      SB bets $80.25, Hero calls $80.25

      Turn: ($270.50, 2 players) 5
      SB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($270.50, 2 players) K
      SB bets $138.75, Hero calls $138.75

      Spoiler:
      Results: $548.00 pot ($3.00 rake)
      Final Board: 7 2 J 5 K

      SB shows T 8: (High Card, King)
      (Pre 66%, Flop 37%, Turn 23%)

      Hero shows 6 7: (One Pair, Sevens)
      (Pre 34%, Flop 63%, Turn 77%)

      Hero wins $545.00
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      04-20-2021 , 03:57 AM
      both played well imo
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      04-20-2021 , 05:39 AM
      How do you decide to call river in hand 2? Bet check bet oop is usually strong, did you call based on sizing or reads/feeling?
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      04-20-2021 , 03:32 PM
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      Originally Posted by Thommehh
      How do you decide to call river in hand 2? Bet check bet oop is usually strong, did you call based on sizing or reads/feeling?
      I don't view bet check bet line is super strong, the range is going to be wider than the bet bet bet line and you need to do more bluff catching vs this line.

      Talking about GTO, on this J high board texture, opponent is suppose to bet large for very high frequency (>80%) and on the turn he needs to check a lot.

      However, on this double flush turn, all his over pairs needs a lot of protection and will bet the turn very often. Also he should check a lot of his flush draw because I can easily jam the turn to deny his equity. Usually you will see solver bet some trash flush which doesn't mind folding to a jam or combo draw which can get it in easily but check a lot of nuts flush.

      On the river, the K is so good for his range so he needs to bluff some of his missed flush draws. I am in a bluff catching mode, and the question I need to ask for myself is do I have a lot of Jx and Kx in this spot? Some of my Jx will bet the turn and Kx I have is KdXd and KcXc and some of them will bet the turn as well. So this combo ends up pretty high in my range. The suit doesn't block his flush draw which is good. The blocker isn't great because I want to block his K so a hand like AQ might also be a good bluff catcher.

      In terms of sizing, the half sizing on the river usually shows less of strength and pool tends to bet half pot for the cheap bluff. So I made the call.
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      04-20-2021 , 06:41 PM
      Most of it sounds very logically yeah! I'm a newbie to cash games and GTO so don't know much about it yet, played around some with GTO Wizard to help me improve my preflop ranges though.

      Anyways all of this won't help me because I literally play 100 times lower than you atm hehe

      Thanks for taking your time to explain though!
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      04-20-2021 , 07:05 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Thommehh
      Most of it sounds very logically yeah! I'm a newbie to cash games and GTO so don't know much about it yet, played around some with GTO Wizard to help me improve my preflop ranges though.

      Anyways all of this won't help me because I literally play 100 times lower than you atm hehe

      Thanks for taking your time to explain though!
      I also play from 25nl and move up gradually. Once you make a habit thinking about every hand this way, you will improve much faster.
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      04-21-2021 , 02:48 AM
      Pretty brutal session tonight:




      Want to share some big losing hands for discussion:

      H1: Is flop peel too loose? He is betting kind of large 33% pot.

        Ignition - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

        SB: $543.67 (108.7 bb)
        Hero (BB): $514.51 (102.9 bb)
        UTG: $951.35 (190.3 bb)
        MP: $475.01 (95 bb)
        CO: $406.88 (81.4 bb)
        BTN: $1,049.09 (209.8 bb)

        SB posts $2.50, Hero posts BB $5.00

        Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) Hero has J Q, BTN has :
        3 folds, BTN raises to $12.50, fold, Hero raises to $57.50, BTN raises to $115.00, Hero calls $57.50

        Flop: ($232.50, 2 players) 6 5 9
        Hero checks, BTN bets $70.00, Hero calls $70.00

        Turn: ($372.50, 2 players) Q
        Hero checks, BTN bets $864.09 and is all-in, Hero calls $329.51 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        River: ($1,031.52, 2 players) 4

        Results: $1,031.52 pot ($4.00 rake)
        Final Board: 6 5 9 Q 4

        Hero shows J Q: (One Pair, Queens)
        (Pre 17%, Flop 8%, Turn 11%)

        BTN shows K K: (One Pair, Kings)
        (Pre 83%, Flop 92%, Turn 89%)

        BTN wins $1,027.52




        H2: The river jam seems too thin? Should bet a normal size.

          Ignition - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
          Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

          BTN: $510.00 (102 bb)
          SB: $739.38 (147.9 bb)
          BB: $1,730.13 (346 bb)
          Hero (UTG): $503.63 (100.7 bb)
          MP: $764.49 (152.9 bb)
          CO: $515.46 (103.1 bb)

          SB posts $2.50, BB posts $5.00

          Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) SB has :, Hero has J A
          Hero raises to $12.50, 3 folds, SB calls $10.00, fold

          Flop: ($30.00, 2 players) 4 J T
          SB checks, Hero bets $21.38, SB calls $21.38

          Turn: ($72.76, 2 players) 5
          SB checks, Hero bets $103.70, SB calls $103.70

          River: ($280.16, 2 players) 4
          SB checks, Hero bets $366.05 and is all-in, SB calls $366.05

          Spoiler:
          Results: $1,012.26 pot ($4.00 rake)
          Final Board: 4 J T 5 4

          Hero shows J A: (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours)
          (Pre 43%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)

          SB shows T T: (Full House, Tens full of Fours)
          (Pre 57%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)

          SB wins $1,008.26

          Last edited by superpoker666; 04-21-2021 at 03:12 AM.
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          04-21-2021 , 02:56 AM
          H3:

          My suit block his Qs and I decide to jam the turn with pot size.

            Ignition - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
            Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

            SB: $487.50 (97.5 bb)
            Hero (BB): $500.00 (100 bb)
            UTG: $500.00 (100 bb)
            MP: $545.58 (109.1 bb)
            CO: $911.95 (182.4 bb)
            BTN: $875.08 (175 bb)

            SB posts $2.50, Hero posts BB $5.00

            Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) Hero has K A, BTN has :
            fold, MP raises to $12.00, fold, BTN calls $12.00, fold, Hero raises to $67.50, fold, BTN calls $55.50

            Flop: ($149.50, 2 players) Q 3 3
            Hero bets $96.03, BTN calls $96.03

            Turn: ($341.56, 2 players) 6
            Hero bets $336.47 and is all-in, BTN calls $336.47

            River: ($1,014.50, 2 players) Q

            Spoiler:
            Results: $1,014.50 pot ($4.00 rake)
            Final Board: Q 3 3 6 Q

            Hero shows K A: (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
            (Pre 48%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)

            BTN shows 9 9: (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
            (Pre 52%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)

            BTN wins $1,010.50



            H4:

            Just unlucky spot?

              Ignition - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
              Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

              UTG: $420.26 (84.1 bb)
              MP: $596.75 (119.4 bb)
              CO: $619.19 (123.8 bb)
              BTN: $809.47 (161.9 bb)
              Hero (SB): $427.10 (85.4 bb)
              BB: $1,183.14 (236.6 bb)

              Hero posts SB $2.50, BB posts $5.00

              Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) Hero has T A
              4 folds, Hero raises to $15.00, BB raises to $45.00, Hero raises to $120.00, BB calls $75.00

              Flop: ($240.00, 2 players) J 6 8
              Hero bets $59.00, BB raises to $1,063.14 and is all-in, Hero folds

              Results: $358.00 pot ($4.00 rake)
              Final Board: J 6 8

              BB wins $354.00
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              04-21-2021 , 03:02 AM
              H5:

              Jamming to isolate the weak player but run into AA.

                Ignition - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
                Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

                BTN: $374.80 (75 bb)
                SB: $234.35 (46.9 bb)
                Hero (BB): $495.00 (99 bb)
                UTG: $882.00 (176.4 bb)
                CO: $743.78 (148.8 bb)

                SB posts $2.50, Hero posts BB $5.00

                Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) SB has J 2, Hero has A K, CO has A A
                UTG raises to $12.50, CO raises to $40.00, fold, SB calls $37.50, Hero raises to $495.00 and is all-in, fold, CO calls $455.00, SB calls $194.35 and is all-in

                Flop: ($1,236.85, 3 players) A 8 T

                Turn: ($1,236.85, 3 players) 6

                River: ($1,236.85, 3 players) J

                Results: $1,236.85 pot ($0.00 rake)
                Final Board: A 8 T 6 J

                SB shows J 2: (One Pair, Jacks)
                Main Pot: [$715.55]: (Pre 17%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)

                Hero shows A K: (One Pair, Aces)
                Main Pot: [$715.55]: (Pre 12%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
                Side Pot: [$521.30]: (Pre 13%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)

                CO shows A A: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
                Main Pot: [$715.55]: (Pre 71%, Flop 91%, Turn 100%)
                Side Pot: [$521.30]: (Pre 87%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%)

                CO wins $713.81


                H6:

                Give up the missed flush combo draw otr.

                  Ignition - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
                  Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

                  CO: $519.43 (103.9 bb)
                  BTN: $576.25 (115.3 bb)
                  SB: $1,040.39 (208.1 bb)
                  Hero (BB): $523.39 (104.7 bb)
                  UTG: $1,440.38 (288.1 bb)
                  MP: $667.84 (133.6 bb)

                  SB posts $2.50, Hero posts BB $5.00

                  Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) Hero has Q 9, MP has A T
                  fold, MP raises to $12.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $7.50

                  Flop: ($27.50, 2 players) T 6 4
                  Hero checks, MP bets $13.07, Hero raises to $52.27, MP calls $39.20

                  Turn: ($132.04, 2 players) J
                  Hero bets $128.04, MP calls $128.04

                  River: ($388.12, 2 players) 2
                  Hero checks, MP checks

                  Results: $388.12 pot ($4.00 rake)
                  Final Board: T 6 4 J 2

                  Hero shows Q 9: (High Card, Queen)
                  (Pre 40%, Flop 45%, Turn 39%)

                  MP shows A T: (One Pair, Tens)
                  (Pre 60%, Flop 55%, Turn 61%)

                  MP wins $384.12
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                  04-21-2021 , 04:13 AM
                  h1 donk or x/f

                  h2 I think I'd play same way vs probably fish

                  h3 is probably fine

                  h4 think you should x/f flop actually not sure you bet this super often

                  h5 fine

                  h6 seems like just ripping turn could legit be a thing, but ap I like a give up
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                  04-21-2021 , 10:26 AM
                  Yeah for h4, not a flop you can bet range on OOP, maybe can bet about 50% of your range. With this exact hand it's probably mainly a check.
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                  04-21-2021 , 03:30 PM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Brokenstars
                  h1 donk or x/f

                  h2 I think I'd play same way vs probably fish

                  h3 is probably fine

                  h4 think you should x/f flop actually not sure you bet this super often

                  h5 fine

                  h6 seems like just ripping turn could legit be a thing, but ap I like a give up
                  Thanks BS.

                  H1 I can indentify that we can donk on this board but I haven't implemented the donking in my game and I heard it doesn't increase EV too much so I keep it simple. If we donk 1/4 on this board and on the Q turn, do you just check and try to get to the show down?

                  H4 Haven't studied the BvB 4bet pot too much, seems to be autopiloting cbet 1/4 a lot here. This hands seem to be pure check and we can bet more with spade in hand.
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                  04-21-2021 , 03:31 PM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by 2021shipit
                  Yeah for h4, not a flop you can bet range on OOP, maybe can bet about 50% of your range. With this exact hand it's probably mainly a check.
                  Ya it should be a xf hand. I seems to be cbet too much in the 4bet pot as the aggressor.
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                  04-22-2021 , 04:44 PM
                  In GTO we have to call and we don't have too many strong hands here and this one is of strongest (besides 22).
                  Also blocking his turn two pair and JJ and KK.

                    Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
                    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

                    MP: $201.00 (100.5 bb)
                    CO: $101.49 (50.7 bb)
                    BTN: $208.27 (104.1 bb)
                    SB: $224.51 (112.3 bb)
                    Hero (BB): $200.00 (100 bb)
                    UTG: $200.00 (100 bb)

                    SB posts $1.00, Hero posts BB $2.00

                    Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) BTN has:, Hero has J K
                    3 folds, BTN raises to $5.00, fold, Hero calls $3.00

                    Flop: ($11.00, 2 players) 2 T K
                    Hero checks, BTN checks

                    Turn: ($11.00, 2 players) J
                    Hero checks, BTN bets $16.45, Hero calls $16.45

                    River: ($43.90, 2 players) 5
                    Hero checks, BTN bets $55.71, Hero calls $55.71

                    Spoiler:

                    Results: $155.32 pot ($4.00 rake)
                    Final Board: 2 T K J 5

                    BTN shows A Q: (Straight, Ace High)
                    (Pre 0%)

                    BTN wins $151.32
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                    04-22-2021 , 04:50 PM
                    200z 80K hands update:

                    wr: 5.44bb/100



                    I took a shot at 500z but results were not so good so far, -7BI. Could be just variance but my bankroll is not enough at the moment.

                    Decided to move down to grind 200z again until I reach $11k-12k and take another 5BI shot at 500z.

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                    04-22-2021 , 05:06 PM
                    Nice 200z results! Seeing your ~40k hands breakeven streak makes me feel better about my shitty start at 5z

                    Guess your 500z results are mostly because of variance then yea but I also know 500z is one of the toughest games online right
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                    04-27-2021 , 10:59 PM
                    Time to respect poker variance.
                    I didn't do anything special but ran pretty bad after hitting $10K mark.

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                    04-28-2021 , 12:00 AM
                    I know the feeling bro. April has been rough for a lot of players I know myself included. Heat in May guaranteed.
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                    04-28-2021 , 01:21 AM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by 2021shipit
                    If you are playing this volume you gotta get a rakeback deal, you can get up to 25%
                    How would one get a rake back deal? Thanks!
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                    04-28-2021 , 01:44 AM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by BobbyPeru
                    I know the feeling bro. April has been rough for a lot of players I know myself included. Heat in May guaranteed.
                    Thanks bro. I am actually feeling ok. I know this is coming sooner or later after my 40BI upswing. I just feel my mental resilience is becoming stronger and stronger after these ups and downs, which is very important for a long-term poker player.
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                    04-28-2021 , 01:45 AM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by Otium
                    How would one get a rake back deal? Thanks!
                    Can you PM me and I will connect you with a rakeback deal.
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                    04-29-2021 , 02:48 AM
                    Finally a low volume winning day:



                    I have increased my study time during the down swing. Try to sim all the bookmarked hands after the session. I think this helps a lot during the downswing.
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                    04-30-2021 , 03:00 AM
                    Interesting hands tonight:

                    H1: My hands is a pretty bad bluff catcher but his line of check raise is very suspicious. Most his strong hands would raise the flop or bet the river himself given he is a fish. I make a hero call.

                      Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
                      Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

                      BTN: $415.59 (207.8 bb)
                      SB: $285.00 (142.5 bb)
                      BB: $622.30 (311.2 bb)
                      UTG: $124.04 (62 bb)
                      MP: $496.57 (248.3 bb)
                      Hero (CO): $252.57 (126.3 bb)

                      SB posts $1.00, BB posts $2.00

                      Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) SB has:, Hero has A A
                      2 folds, Hero raises to $5.00, fold, SB calls $4.00, fold

                      Flop: ($12.00, 2 players) 4 9 7
                      SB checks, Hero bets $8.55, SB calls $8.55

                      Turn: ($29.10, 2 players) 5
                      SB checks, Hero checks

                      River: ($29.10, 2 players) 3
                      SB checks, Hero bets $20.74, SB raises to $63.31, Hero calls $42.57
                      Spoiler:

                      Results: $155.72 pot ($4.00 rake)
                      Final Board: 4 9 7 5 3

                      SB shows T J: (High Card, Jack)
                      (Pre 17%, Flop 20%, Turn 9%)

                      Hero shows A A: (One Pair, Aces)
                      (Pre 83%, Flop 80%, Turn 91%)

                      Hero wins $151.72




                      H2: I don't think vs real person there is bluff here but in GTO I don't think we can pure fold K high flush here.
                      Any comments or experience in this spot?

                        Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
                        Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

                        Hero (UTG): $189.24 (94.6 bb)
                        MP: $150.79 (75.4 bb)
                        CO: $122.91 (61.5 bb)
                        BTN: $900.16 (450.1 bb)
                        SB: $219.47 (109.7 bb)
                        BB: $192.60 (96.3 bb)

                        SB posts $1.00, BB posts $2.00

                        Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has K 9, BB has:
                        Hero raises to $5.00, 3 folds, SB calls $4.00, BB calls $3.00

                        Flop: ($15.00, 3 players) J 4 3
                        SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

                        Turn: ($15.00, 3 players) J
                        SB checks, BB bets $9.13, Hero calls $9.13, fold

                        River: ($33.26, 2 players) 7
                        BB bets $11.00, Hero raises to $64.60, BB raises to $178.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $110.51 and is all-in

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $383.48 pot ($4.00 rake)
                        Final Board: J 4 3 J 7

                        BB shows 7 J: (Full House, Jacks full of Sevens)
                        (Pre 0%)

                        BB wins $379.48
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                        04-30-2021 , 03:54 AM
                        h1: i would personally bet small ap otr on this card.

                        h2: as played, can't fold really imo- but i think just calling is best here?

                        you have plenty of nut flushes as well as JJ, 77 sometimes

                        not sure
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