That same morning game cant be too inspiring with what you've been through. Nice to see you got the bigger house. 4 sevens

Was it @subsermisble that said games r tougher now than beginning of this thread? Since getting back into the groove, I wd hv to agree. It’s getting tough out there in the streets. The economy dragging too is hurting games. People don’t hv the disposable $ right now. Players also just seem to wanna play better nowadays lol.

+89 in a c game line up. *No Tipping John said he has 98 hours logged and on pace this month. He is going for 200. The 200 will get him $5/hr rake back promo.
100 hours is $1/hr rake back.

Almost even over 91 hours. -43.

Does C game mean the players are bad or good?

You need to get that rake back. If you're a breakeven player that extra $1000/mth will be huge for your bankroll.

@1800rpm if u see me in there for 200 hours then it’s just desperate times for me. No way I cd do that, or want to.
C game…meant to gv a number not letter.. my nad. 6/10 on game action.

BS, why not get this card protector for run good?

https://www.amazon.com/John-Deere-Sc...61007103&psc=1

Don’t tempt me @bahnahmickey. Desperate times desperate measuresz

Trying to b the best. Need the wizards help here please. Hand History from today.

Otb $1100 w 910o.
Villain $1200. High vpip. Has also 3bet 3 times in the last hour, but this time it was out of bb. Seems solid and not getting out of line, so it feels like he is catching the deck. Seen a couple showdown hands and always had it.
Sb $700. Cautious and solid.

Not much history on either one. We are a hour into the new 2/5nl game.

A few limps and I make it $30 w 910o otb. Sb calls. Bb raises to $115. This is prob where I shd b folding, but in position I wanted to look this one up. Pretty much I hv the hand I want here vs a 3 in these spots. Sb tank folded. HU

Flop 68Q r.
V $80. I call w double gutter w intentions of raising large ott.
Turn 2.
V $125. I snap all in. *planned on snapping all in right after he acted. Feels stronger to me lol

V goes into the tank a bit and asked for a count.
It was about $650 more for him to call.

Horrible play or gd? If V has KK or AA AQ he is never folding don’t believe, so I’m not sure. This is prob a punt?

I’ll luk how it ended soon.

well, at least your flop decision was correct. every single other decision was not.

are you trolling us or actually this huge of a fish? jfc, study some or stop playing.

why do you want T9o 3-way? "because i have position" is not a qualified answer.

idk. its obvious how it ended. everything that gets posted in here is something that worked out for you lol. its probably why there's been a conspicuous absence of hand histories over your last 100 hours of play. even the retrospective analysis of your meltdown 2 years ago only came after you spun back up. id imagine you jammed in this hand and it got through and you had a huge winning day.

re the actual hand if you're looking for advice i said earlier in the thread you could probably add 5-10$ to your hourly by looking at pre ranges, but having seen this hand id imagine its more extreme than that. if you're doing this on any kind of regular / semi regular / infrequent basis its unlikely you have the knowledge and/or discipline to be a winning player. t9o is an open on the button if its folded to you, you need to tighten up more for each limper because it becomes less and less likely you win the pot uncontested. also your hand absolutely sucks to go multiway with. if you want to vpip here because you're bored or whatever, you should open limp where its a small investment and as a result cannot be a large mistake.
when you raise and he reraises its a very easy fold. you're dominated by a good part of literally any range and you're not suited. you really want to be suited (or be able to make high pairs / dominate his range or have a pocket pair) because thats going to determine if you're able to continue in the hand facing a bet and be able to contest the pot later in the hand. really cannot over emphasize how bad pre is, and if you take a look at some hand ranges you'll see that very quickly.

post is whatever. raising the flop seems pretty bad with these stacks especially vs a guy you think will never fold top pair+. turn i question raising for the same reason but idk if he actually bets 40% of pot w good hands. you're bluffing way too much here though if you're doing this every time and you have a bunch of offsuit combos, (if you're doing this w t9o, u prob can do it w 97, 54, and 75 too) although i dont think balance really matters when you start defending a hand you're not even supposed to open (over multiple limpers) with.

realistically if you won this hand it's going to do more bad for you poker wise than good imo. really nothing worse for human brain than getting positive reinforcement for doing something wrong. its very difficult to watch you complain about runbad for 100 hours and talk about how you're going to be a huge winner in the pool (30/hr at 1/2 and 1/3 is v large especially if you're mostly playing bad weekday hours) and post this unironically.

Lol that hand. Fold pre both times. OTT just call. You really shoving 66/88 if you have them? Makes no sense.

BS in all fairness, your best bet of getting real input on hand histories is to create a burner account and post in the live low stakes hand history section to get genuine feedback

most people here don't play these stakes or don't play at all and are going to be highly biased in their response to you

I'm out of the loop for poker here but we're still lacking some critical information

how valuable do you think position is when you will have an SPR of about 3.5 on the flop?

what range are you putting him on?

what part of that range do you think he's capable of folding to a shove? You mentioned he's not folding AQ/KK/AA - so then what here is he going 3! preflop and fire two barrels and then fold to a pot sized shove if he's not even going to fold a single pair? You think he's blasting off here with Jacks or AK and then folding worried you have a pair of queens?

what hands are you representing? If you had AQ/KQ/QQ/KK/AA here would you ever jam turn? Would you have jammed turn with a set? Are there any possible 2 pair hands in your range here? I don't think there are other than some 68s, of which there are only 2 combos - and to be clear, i'm only including 68s because here we are with T9o so we need to give you a wider than meta range



I don't really play anymore, so not really in touch with the meta. But the biggest lesson I ever learned in my poker career was figuring out not only what range the villain had but also what part of that range was folding to a big bet and what part of that range was calling. It feels like you already did figure that out but threw that knowledge away and decided 'what if he just doesn't have it afterall?' and so you jammed because if you folded that meant you'd lose the hand"

I'm not well versed in the current meta and could be mistaken, but I don't think T9o is a hand you defend with here and am folding preflop to the bb 3!. If you are not folding T9o, then exactly what part of your button opening range does actually fold to a 3bet preflop?

As played I'm just happy he bet so little on the flop and turn and hoping to suck out on the river to stack him and never bluffing if i think he's never folding top pair or better.

Feedback on the HH. The wife does not need to worry about pickleball noises pissing off the new neighbors anytime soon. And She may need to start working on the other half of mortgage payments starting in january or February.

“I wanted to look him up”. “Im the greatest of all time”

let's be honest, this is OP's NEED to be table captain at play. ego and being addicted to competition is going to cost you it all. again! i wish i didn't actually believe this to be true.

I had to come back and post again. 109o with a 750k home, playing 20 hours a week so we dont get mentally drained from all the tough decisions. Once you stop running 50 buyins under EV the sky is the limit. Poker rushmore. Doyle, stu, ivey and RayZ.

Genuine, unbiased feedback: if it is even possible for someone to play a hand this badly then they just cannot be good at poker. You need to relearn the fundamentals literally from the ground up if you every want to beat 2/5 live poker even.
Preflop squeeze: 3/10
Call against BB 3!: 1/10
Flop call: 10/10
Turn jam: 3/10
Turn obvious timing tell: 2/10

Preflop is just whale play, not even worth discussing. Jamming the turn is just bad. Calling and bluffing river would be strictly better. You are only getting a bluff to fold, which is like exactly AK usually. Also what value hand would ever want to jam here? in position on this runout?

yeah i didn't mention it but i also didn't think insta shoving looked stronger

BS check out this thread

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1.../#post58304589

these are the things that low stakes players who are studying and coaching think about

none of this stuff was necessary when I played for a living at stakes much higher than those discussed in that thread

the game is evolving and getting harder every year - looking at that thread makes my head hurt and those guys are talking about that level of poker theory at low stakes - you need to sharpen the knives, study, get coaching, etc, the game is ever evolving and you can't expect to be able to just play your same poker game you played from a decade ago and expect good results

This is why you have a nonexistent hourly. It's bad but you probably won so keep it up, champ.

dont mean to pile on but its too late to edit my previous post.

theres probably something to be said for almost 5k posts about your life and 0 about strategy (on a poker strategy forum) while doing this w t9o pre as an aspiring pro in the year 2023.

since i was mean ill be constructive too. sign up for gtowizard (or one of the other cloud solver sites) and look at what preflop ranges look like at a 9 handed game and start from there. obviously alot of things are not going to apply to low stakes live but that should be your framework.

games have changed quite a bit and i think you're probably playing worse now than you did back then (financial stress, ego, desperation, tilt from going from "retirement" money to being near broke, rust from time off, out of date explo strategy), underestimating the effect run good / survivorship bias had on your previous results, underestimating how much of your winrate was a product of you playing in good games - you used to post hands of people straddling to 200 and stuff which i dont think happens much anymore, and just the competition improving or at least tightening. its low stakes nl, its not rocket science but if youre too proud or lazy or attached to showing yourself and the world you know everything, you aren't going to succeed. i dont mean it meanly, im trying to be objective with you. its like you want to tell people you're a poker pro without actually doing anything poker pros do except for play poker (and even that you're putting in minimal volume at bad hours and hoping to succeed). i meant to comment earlier but imagine taking shots before playing a game you thought was going to be the biggest game of the year for you while you're underrolled and needing to win lol. at what job can you drink before you show up and expect that to be ok? its wild

Loving the feedback.
I never think I cd fold otb for $5. If anything limp. Call me crazy, but if I open this 910o it has to be bigger…like $45.

This seemed to b a frustration build up play ott for me. Made a play where I only represent AQ 68. Maybe fast played sets. Just not a gd board to get any AQ+ to fold. Tbh, I didn’t hv full confidence V was a strong as he was. It was mixed feeelings in the live setting.
Cdnt he still bet turns w 99, 1010, JJ, Ak, 79, 10J, and I can fold them out.???

All in all. agree its a mistake.

poker:

stocks:

2x OP will listen to advice but ultimately decide if it is correct or not (by independently thinking about it for a short moment):

more hubris:

Performing any kind of analysis on the hand is all and all a mistake. Just know poker bad.

You really can. The fact that you don’t think it’s even an option is pretty solid evidence of old live reg tendencies. As Submersible said, this is close to bottom of range even if it folds to you.
It’s also important to not underestimate live rake structure.
To attack limps with a hand this bad, even OTB is honestly super bad. It’s just not even close. If you are, and this is bottom of your range, consider the fact that you’re still advocating for iso’ing MULTIPLE limps 9x with T9o+, 22+, 76s+ or something? That’s like absurdo world wide and will never be profitable even vs typical live recs. Your hand just sucks and often your Tx and 9x pairs will be dominated by limp ranges as well.

It’s just simply super bad. There is no maybe about it. You won’t improve unless you actually study some ranges and develop some discipline. It’s honestly not even that challenging to learn. Not trying to pile on, but it’s just important to be very clear that plays like this will never be winning long term. Your whole game is built from preflop. It’s the essential foundation for winning poker.

I honestly probably wouldn’t be bothering to write all this if you didn’t have a wife and kids who are relying on you to make this work somehow.

I'm genuinely shocked that you think snap-shoving is a sign of strength.

ooofff people who play like that in my games are tagged whales

I'm probably one of the few here who is onboard with the T9o iso

you have the button, you're going to either smash flops or have nothing - it's a very easy hand to play post flop

it'll also make you harder to be hand read and make it easier to get paid when you're actually holding it

you're very deep with a 1100 stack playing 2/5 so bumping it up a little helps you play for stacks by the river - something which would be quite difficult if the pot were just $30 on the flop.

this is a spot where the old 2007 vintage rickroll is opening the button vs a bunch of limpers - but that rickroll is always folding to such a large 3!

and this new rickroll, having simply hung out in 2p2 chat threads would and been somewhat exposed to newer poker mentality would have probably asked himself if there was any specific reason for opening instead of limping along.

Do I have a legit shot at taking down all the blinds? If there a very specific whale who limped in that I want to isolate against and face his J3o he wanted to see a flop with?

It doesn't seem like the answer to either is yes. So why are we raising with such a shitty hand that does much better with huge sprs than low sprs? We want to nuthunt for as cheap as we possibly can. The double gutter board was ideal for that. If we just limped along pre. Then all the rest of the decisions are going to be for smaller amounts with big stacks behind and then we can very profitably chase that straight in position and stack their overpair.