The flop donk bet size clearly shows you've gotta be willing to play this for stacks or fold imo. Once the flop is called I don't think any read short of vill exposing his hand would be strong enough to allow a turn fold. The flop call or fold is based on however you've pigeon-holed vills playing style. Against the vast majority of llsnl players this is a call otf and turn.

Been following your journey for awhile and am a fan. I've played an lol worthy SSS of 1/2 at MDL this year currently 89.5 hrs. Have crushed the games at an unsustainable winrate playing more or less the style Riverman advocates in http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...ve-nl-1169750/

Plenty of loose passive games at MDL that a relentless use of position and aggression will show a steady profit. Good luck!! Do everything in your power to avoid poor br management and degen gamb00lig in the pit or in your case on sports. Lacking br management skills, leaks off the poker felt, and tilt control often separate those that find success playing for a living from those who fail (moreso than how they react to donk bets )

Kyle, IME, the pot-sized donk bet is usually strong. This is 100% true on a wet board in a big pot, but on a dry board they sometimes show up with top pair.

They usually slow down considerably OTT (especially out of position) when called if they have top pair.

The fact that this guy kept his foot flat on the gas pedal just made me think he was very very strong here. I ended up folding.

+$275 in 3 hours of Maryland Live 2/5.

Games were very good. I felt I played really well - I won a $1,025 pot with 77 all in OTF vs A7 on a A76ss board. Not sure how much of a cooler that is, though since there are very few, if any, combos of hands worse than A7 that im putting 100bb in with. Granted the player was a huge spewtard so maybe I do get 76s in against him - but only 3 combos of those hands left.

Car isn't starting right now so waiting on AAA to get here. Hoping my bankroll isn't about to take a huge hit right now. Don't need that lol

Wait are you using ss notation for single suited? In NL it usually means spade spade. In PLO is means single suited to describe starting hands. If it is the later than you should be willing to get in a few combo draws too.

If not use r for rainbow

Using it for spades

Yea you're right, but there's only a few combos of those. I was playing pretty tight at this table. Action was as follows:

77 ep. I limp. We go 6-way limped pot.

Flop ($30) A76

BB checks, I bet $25, fishy stationy guy with like $100 calls. Super badlag fish raises to $195 lol. I ship $500. Fishy guy folds. Badlag calls.

I mean with combo draws I'm probably doing really well in terms of the price I'm getting so I definitely get those in. I don't have much A6 in my range here, and I don't really open limp 76s from EP... Which is why I don't really think this is an actual cooler

Lol at you. Sarcasm is cool bro. Of course I meant give up if you didn't flop a set glad you picked up on it

You can definitely call flop and fold turn. He made it real easy for you to fold turn by shipping dark. That's sort of like the guy that 3-bets big preflop, is called, and then shoves the rest of his stack on the flop blind before the flop is revealed. Hmmmmm, I wonder what he has lol.

Definitely a cooler to get it in with top two pair vs a set on a draw heavy board like this. I'd be more than happy to get it in with AsXs vs bad lag here all day especially since it could easily go 3 ways.

I'd be interested in hearing about some of the hands you lost, if there were any of significance.

Big hand I lost:

66 ep. I limp. Unknown new guy in the CO (looks like a rec player) limps, SB bad Indian guy completes, BB tight Asian young guy raises to $15 (lol).

Everyone calls.

Flop ($55) 865

Ch, ch, I bet $45, only CO calls

Turn ($145) J I check, CO bets $110 with like $300+ left behind. I call.

River ($365) 4 check check

Villain shows 73

Seems ok to me. I checked the turn because that card increases my FE against a lot of hands I want value from - not to mention hearts got there and many combos of straights are out there.

66 nh

should have shoved the river lmao

but he haz the straight!!!!

Ugh... Stuck here at MDL because of car troubles... Shot-taking 2/5 and telling myself to play conservatively and avoid thin spots... Then this happens...

75 BTN. 2 limp. Raise to $15, spewy bad lag calls HJ, CO ABC guy calls, I call. Limpers call. 7-way.

Flop ($105) K86

limper ($300) bets $30, 2 ($270 and $500+) call, CO ABC guy raises $150 all-in. I ship all-in covering everyone.

Get called in one spot by the 50bb stack... brick and brick

Duke, why did you raise? What does it accomplish that calling doesn't. Is it to get all your money in as an equity favorite because you think you won't get called if you hit. Just seems to me that in position the shorter stack can't price you out on the turn, the larger stack is unlikely to price you out on the turn, your straight outs if hit are highly likely to get paid and your flush might get paid in a pot that is going to be bloated up anyway. Take the free card on the turn if you don't hit and give up on the river if you don't hit. Bet on any draw completing card. There is already a guy all-in and you aren't winning with 7-high.

I may have just spazzed out honestly... Calling seems better in hindsight

On some really bad enraged monkey tilt right now.......

That's not a spaz. Shoving is correct. You should have 15 outs. Sorry it bricked.

Down $326 in a little over 4 hours of 2/5... Playing like a complete donkey ugh

Going to go have dinner and hopefully come back strong... Probably back to 1/2 since I'm leaking so much with my mental game =/

I suggest a sit n go.

:beer: I will spend whatever time is necessary to address your problems and concerns.

Why blast everyone else out of the pot?

Not based on that 7-5 hand I hope - IMO call would have been the better play than ship with the $150 stack already all in. As you mentioned in the follow-up post. But not that big of a mistake - nothing worth tilt.

+1

Because we have 0 showdown value. What happens if we flat and someone else over calls and we brick turn. If someone bets we're in a bad spot. If someone over calls and we hit a diamond we are unlikely to get value. There is also the chance that shoving flop could potentially get someone off of bigger, non nut diamond draws. A naked J high flush draw could easily find a fold to our shove. There is no reason to just flat here. We have way too much equity.

Duke, your posts show that you've grown a lot as a poker player over the course of this thread, but it seems like you're still really results oriented. Try to just examine each spot individually and make the correct play. Doesn't matter if you win the pot as long as you can justify your play against your opponents range.
Galfond Bucks > Actual Bucks.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. We shove to get a better flush draw to fold.