Do I really need to draw u a picture? This is so insanely stupid to write that I don't know how u managed it

He has the nuts and wants to get value from the third player and not his friend....his friend bets out making it harder for him to do so...he elects to minraise in an effort to keep the player behind from folding to a jam. This is why he says he ****ed up because it would be better for his friend to check the river allowing him to bet himself in order to get called more often.

Collusion isnt just sqzing people out of pots with nothing, I am really not sure how you don't understand that

How will uploading hands from session prove anything?

The min raise makes no sense. If he wanted money from the third player, he would've flat called and hoped the third player either called or squeeze jammed.

If anything, this hand proves that there was no collusion.

Actually the best way to play the hand would be to tell the player who bet out not to bet at all but since you can't openly discuss that its not an option....oh wait...THIS IS WHAT HE ****ING SAID HE SHOULD HAVE DONE

you're actually just flat out wrong. minraising scares the third player. if they were colluding player 1 would x, accused would bet out and sandwich 3rd guys call and then raise again.

its clear u just have something against the guys. stop posting now ok?

I can't believe this is so clear cut that I agree wth sb for once

Not sure Skuz should be catching any heat though

Its pretty strong softplaying? because its close to 0 possibility he goes for a minraise if he isnt housemates/close mates with the original better. he just goes to stack the guy whos betting value against a fish and just prays the fish is a fish and calls a jam/large raise anyway

but then doesnt he say he should have told him his hole cards so he could collude?

just because theydidnt collude/softplay in the perfect way, doesnt mean it didnt happen

So you tell everyone to not make assumptions but then come to the conclusion that this is personal for me based on no facts at all.

I actually specifically mentioned to the guy who played the hand how much I respect skuz and scotty and don't want skuz to take the heat for this. Try again

It's weird for me too

your tone suggests otherwise.

also why is this in skuzs thread?

I didn't post it here

Also they said on their stream to discuss it here about an hour ago.

You want to keep trying to say something relevant?

Only people defending them are their Aussie friends, its 100% obvious what was happening. His friend telling him to stop talking and pointing at the stream was also obvious as he stopped talking straight away. He wasn't offering him fruit as someone suggested.

why are u still typing after embarrassing yourself a few posts back. you have no idea about collusion yet youre still here typing away

Why are you still typing when its so clear cut? If there was any way for them to defend themselves they would have already.

Nope. Try again.

AirFryer is Aussie and he is the one who started these accusations. The fact that we're Aussie says nothing about whether we're going to defend or attack skuz. All it says is that we're more likely to get involved, on one side or the other, because it's personal to us.

FWIW, I also respect AirFryer, just like I respect skuz. I know both of them irl and they're both gentlemen who value their integrity and play by the rules. But I just believe that AirFryer has made an honest mistake here, that's all.

I mean, I didn't say every Aussie is defending them, I said the people who are defending them are their Aussie friends.

Can you explain what you mean by he made an honest mistake?

I think that AirFryer genuinely believes that skuz and his friends are guilty of collusion. But I think that he simply made a mistake, that's all. He interpreted the video the wrong way, as many other people did.

So how did you interpret the video?

Together with the HH?

I believe skuz's explanation:

Jesus Christ, what's gone on here since i went to sleep, Going to clarify a few things.

No it doesn't, both of those have easy work arounds, I'll get back to your trolling/**** talking in a bit.

Baannii, you're a nice dude but flat out wrong here. That HH is absolutely softplaying/collusion, not even close. Don't confuse this for people having a go at Skuz, I don't think anyone here is accusing Skuz of anything other having a really dumb house mate. I know what it's like to be in the position of defending a friend who has softplayed, unfortunately it's not really defensible, you've just got to admit they've made a mistake even if they're your friend.

I'm speaking to airfryer at the moment, he said he doesn't know who you are, you're just a troll.

The min raise is clear collusion, no reg playing these stakes is ever going to min raise the nuts there. So what he is saying in the video is, he should have colluded better, telling him what he had so he didn't bet and he could get value from the other player.

the "explanation" is just an admission that he was considering colluding further by telling his friend his hand but didn't. and never would. he just considered it. this one time.

This post is way to logical for this thread and should be removed.

Yea he considered it just this one time that happened to be on stream...never before ...... but has since had a moral epiphany so it won't happen again

Just wanted to confirm that I have never spoken to or met this idiot. However, I have read your thread and you are clearly a piece of ****. You multiaccount, refuse to pay out bets you lose and are generally just an all round waste of space. **** off and don't pretend like we know each other.