nah, I looked at my early days at 10z on stars, where I've played 300k hands, I ran insanely bad over the sample, a ton below EV(more than 60 BI), bottom 5% of flopped sets and straights really low too. Also all the time I've tried to move up to 25z I got owned by variance too. Even with that I had a 3bb/100 winrate there.
Ofc I was spewing like crazy too, specially on 25z in the FR times. But I've cut the spew so much in the last 3-4 months that it's not even close. There were tons of pot where I was just donating 5-20 bbs out of nowhere, right now it's rare.
I post basically every hand I spew in here, I've played around 30k hands/month in the last months. It's quite low the amount of spew if you look at the sample size.
Just as an example, if this hand was dealt to me sometime ago, I'm pretty sure I was likely to lose a stack in there by overbluffing like crazy in that runnout
Ok, well perhaps I'm being overly harsh. My point is that clearly whatever you're doing now is not working. So you need to change something, otherwise you will be stuck at this level forever. And I'm sure that's not what you want.
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Btw, found an interesting hand I think I played poorly: what is better? Checking the river or jamming? Villain looked like a semi-fish (22/10), 2 AF
River:(74.52 BB, 2 players) T Hero bets 88.14 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 70.8 BB
Just jam over/re-raise his flop min raise, very little is beating you (the ace of spades in your hand sucks somewhat). Once he checks turn, he either has nothing, a very weak pair potentially, or hit a hand that now beats you. Jamming river against that range is awful.
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Winning at over 6bb (ev) in the last 100k hands isn't too shabby.
Then he should be up to 100nl within 3-6 months easily.
Unfortunately (I know this sounds negative, but I've seen it happen to many players), they do well for a while, then a series of bad sessions completely wipes out all their profit and they're back at square one. It's happened to rapid before, if you scroll back enough. I know it happened to cwlrs, who was a solid 200nl reg who streamed on twitch, then went on a massive losing run and had to drop right down to 25nl. As far as I know, he's given up poker (but don't quote me on that).
So don't count your chickens before they hatch. 100k hand sample is still pretty small in the grand scheme of things, particularly for aggro regs like rapid who are more prone to go on big heaters.
cwlrs had a super bad approach though, kept saying stuff that regs did like "omg this is so bad" when it wasn't actually even half bad, super close minded approach
Then he should be up to 100nl within 3-6 months easily.
Unfortunately (I know this sounds negative, but I've seen it happen to many players), they do well for a while, then a series of bad sessions completely wipes out all their profit and they're back at square one. It's happened to rapid before, if you scroll back enough. I know it happened to cwlrs, who was a solid 200nl reg who streamed on twitch, then went on a massive losing run and had to drop right down to 25nl. As far as I know, he's given up poker (but don't quote me on that).
So don't count your chickens before they hatch. 100k hand sample is still pretty small in the grand scheme of things, particularly for aggro regs like rapid who are more prone to go on big heaters.
I know all this (although I've no idea who cwlrs is), I've been here for rather a long time now.
But you said what he's doing isn't working when his results show it seems to be. Could he be doing better? Of course, but then we all could. Could he hit a downswing or things start to go wrong for him? Of course. But at the moment he's getting some coaching, his style of play seems to have altered and he's got a reasonable winrate so we can't say whatever he's doing isn't working.
I know all this (although I've no idea who cwlrs is), I've been here for rather a long time now.
But you said what he's doing isn't working when his results show it seems to be. Could he be doing better? Of course, but then we all could. Could he hit a downswing or things start to go wrong for him? Of course. But at the moment he's getting some coaching, his style of play seems to have altered and he's got a reasonable winrate so we can't say whatever he's doing isn't working.
Well he's clearly made a lot of mistakes in the hands he's posted (which have been pointed out by other posters). Like I say, we'll see where he is in 3-6 months.
river jam is definitely wrong, if you bet there you should probably block bet, otherwise check/call is probably the better line
I would have reraised flop though
thx for the insight on that hand, guys, going to jam flop next time. That's a hand that is really important for my winrate which I think I was playing poorly.
I disagree with a lot of the stuff he does but his game clearly has something to it
Not entirely sure what that means but ok.
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thx for the insight on that hand, guys, going to jam flop next time. That's a hand that is really important for my winrate which I think I was playing poorly.
The biggest pots I win are with overpairs. Always good for your win rate to go hard with overpairs in the correct spots. That flop was one of them. Lots of draws, very few hands beat you. I think you could have won his stack if you had re-raised that flop.
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The biggest pots I win are with overpairs. Always good for your win rate to go hard with overpairs in the correct spots. That flop was one of them. Lots of draws, very few hands beat you. I think you could have won his stack if you had re-raised that flop.
That could very well be true but it doesn't mean shoving is more +EV than calling. Not saying it isn't but this Phil Hellmuth hindsight expertise wouldn't be the reason why.
He probably means that even though I make some major mistakes, I probably compensate on other spots where I gain a huge edge over some players.
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The biggest pots I win are with overpairs. Always good for your win rate to go hard with overpairs in the correct spots. That flop was one of them. Lots of draws, very few hands beat you. I think you could have won his stack if you had re-raised that flop.
Calling OTF is good vs people who bluff, but vs someone who is min-raising and checking back and trying to cooler me, it was a very bad move by me. He realized his equity for a very cheap price with FE vs the bottom of my range and he had insane implied odds vs my specific hand.
Today decided to play some 100z, yesterday's discussion here made me realize I was pretty confident in my game. MMAsherdog usually says in his stream that if you're confident, you can take some more aggro shots. Also games are softer today, I'll probably go back to 50z during the weekdays.
Played really well and made 5 BI there, maybe will play more today. Won't play tomorrow, will make my first test for a government job(I can't pass, will only make for training for long tests).
Some hands
H1: vs huge nit, he is so face up that I decided to go nuts and just get his stack. If I thought he wouldn't pay me off with AA, I would have x/f river. Is it any good? Or is villain valuebetting AA or bluffing OTR if we check? He basically can't have AK OTT
Calling OTF is good vs people who bluff, but vs someone who is min-raising and checking back and trying to cooler me, it was a very bad move by me. He realized his equity for a very cheap price with FE vs the bottom of my range and he had insane implied odds vs my specific hand.
Flop is too wet to just call, plenty of bad turns. More likely he's raising with equity on such a board. Because he's a semi fish, he probably won't be able to let go of that equity. I would felt AA in that spot against non-nits and put it down to a cooler if he shows better. Then again, I could be completely wrong
Flop is too wet to just call, plenty of bad turns. More likely he's raising with equity on such a board. Because he's a semi fish, he probably won't be able to let go of that equity. I would felt AA in that spot against non-nits and put it down to a cooler if he shows better. Then again, I could be completely wrong
I already said I butchered the hand OTF and OTR, man, yeah, it's better to jam flop, and if we call flop, we should at least check the river.
H3: the most controversial hand of today. I think villain don't have much incentive to donk the river with anything but a busted draw, basically the 3 never improves him, so since I didn't block any FD, I went for the bluff, trying to make him lay down a busted draw with higher SDV, used the smaller sizing that I thought that would give me some credibility(without letting him min-3-bet me as a re-bluff or call with a midpair). Bad?
H6: vs nit that got AA vs me like 5 times in a row, he was calling QQ pre OOP vs a 3-bet CO VS BTN. OTR it was an easy fold vs his line, but leveled myself into calling. He had 10% 3-bet and 18% re-steal, probably got lucky in the sample. Considered folding OTF too vs his sizing. Should I feel really bad for making calls like this? I feel I'm calling AQ pre-flop just to somehow semi-bluff people out of the pot, or hope to see a bet-bet-check and see showdown.
Played quite a messy session today, was lacking confidence because of the last session at 100z. Made some optimistic plays that went well. Will quit looking at the results until end of month.
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H1: vs nit, always jamming river with this hand/action, right?
Turn:(63.78 BB, 2 players) A Hero checks, UTG checks
River:(63.78 BB, 2 players) K Hero bets 74.08 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 60.6 BB
H2: vs reg that hates to fold and also never fast-play hands, I usually don't try to bluff these guys pretty hard, but he had so few slowplays OTR when the 4 paired and I have so many value combos that his SDV range will have a tough time calling the river. OFC it's better with As, but this is a spot where I'll have very few bluffs available to me, right? He is also calling OTF and OTT more than he should.
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 6 BB
Flop:(19.5 BB, 2 players) J 9 T CO bets 34.68 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 34.68 BB
Turn:(88.86 BB, 2 players) 4
River:(88.86 BB, 2 players) 8
Spoiler:
CO shows K J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 25%, Flop 68%, Turn 66%) Hero shows A K (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 75%, Flop 32%, Turn 34%) Hero wins 84.86 BB
H6: this one looks terrible, but this guy was a really weird player, he has basically only one sizing that I saw him betting with in post-flop situations, and it's pot. Even in 3-bet pots. He has a 23 VPIP, so I went for the calldown. TT is a good hand here to call, right? Because we don't block semi-bluffs and we don't expect him to valuebet AQ. Also with the paired board it's way more unlikely he has a FH. He also was betting at a high frequency on all streets in my sample.
some mistakes in those hands. for example, h1 you rep very little with a flop raise (but river bet is good once turn checks through). h2, the river bet is not bad, but people generally don't fold Kx on that runout (which is what he most likely has once he calls turn), so check back and hope he shows a missed draw. h3 is spew, call or fold pre and definitely fold to the 4bet. h4 is spew (although it worked out this time). h5, probably not enough equity to call against any half decent range. h6, reasonable call if he has a fair number of bluffs, but not sure why you think Qx won't valuebet, given that most of your range is middle pocket pairs by the river.
"H2: vs reg that hates to fold and also never fast-play hands, I usually don't try to bluff these guys pretty hard, but he had so few slowplays OTR when the 4 paired and I have so many value combos that his SDV range will have a tough time calling the river. OFC it's better with As, but this is a spot where I'll have very few bluffs available to me, right? He is also calling OTF and OTT more than he should."
but apparently you are bluffing all the AQo here so you have at least 12 combos of bluff, add those random QTs 56s you will have quite a lot of bluffs actually
H1: vs huge nit, he is so face up that I decided to go nuts and just get his stack. If I thought he wouldn't pay me off with AA, I would have x/f river. Is it any good? Or is villain valuebetting AA or bluffing OTR if we check? He basically can't have AK OTT
River:(103.08 BB, 2 players) K Hero bets 48.71 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 48.71 BB
Spoiler:
Hero shows 7 7 (Four of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 19%, Flop 99.9%, Turn 100%) BTN shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 81%, Flop 0.1%, Turn 0%) Hero wins 198 BB
Bolded is absurd Rapidesh, gotta find a way to move away from seeking out "sick moves" and focus on improving your hand reading instead. His range isn't very wide here so it's pretty straight forward to break it down and see why c/f would be a >100bb EV mistake.
"H2: vs reg that hates to fold and also never fast-play hands, I usually don't try to bluff these guys pretty hard, but he had so few slowplays OTR when the 4 paired and I have so many value combos that his SDV range will have a tough time calling the river. OFC it's better with As, but this is a spot where I'll have very few bluffs available to me, right? He is also calling OTF and OTT more than he should."
but apparently you are bluffing all the AQo here so you have at least 12 combos of bluff, add those random QTs 56s you will have quite a lot of bluffs actually
Didn't see part where he said reg hates to fold. Check back river in that case. That is a 77bb mistake and those really add up over time.