vs utg nit i would prob adjust by playing heaps of suited hands and less offsuit hands (this should be your general strat anyway but vs extra nit even moreso)
so something like this probably:
and obviously 3 betting less but still having some a2-a5 and some other hands in there. not sure how correct this is but it's what i would do
64s was kinda loose pre, should have folded, this guy was a nit, but I thought he was 3-betting me lighter to punish my opens. Vs normal 3-bets it's ok, like 12%+, but vs a guy 3-betting 9%, it's better to fold, specially since he is going super aggro post-flop(and he can do it, given his tightness).
Since I'm not playing, I'll take these days analysing my database and trying to build some plans in the areas I'm not sure of.
Those areas are:
Calling in the big blind vs nit opens(10% opens) and how to play post-flop properly.
X/r frequencies OTF/OTT, overall strategy as the pre-flop caller
3-betting vs nits(I think I'm 3-betting way too tight)
Calling 3-bets
Why am I losing when I open SCs
First I'll start with
Calling in the big blind vs nit opens(10% opens) and how to play post-flop properly.
I'm really not sure about what I can profitably call pre vs these guys in the BB, I usually take into account their open size, if it's like 3x, I'm only flatting PPs, AQo+, JTs+, folding even KQo and AJo, is it ok? Now vs 2x-2.5x I get more liberal, call 46s, maybe I should call hands like 6Ts? I'm talking about guys that open really tight here, like even 77+ AQ+ from UTG.
But what really makes me confused is how to deal with them post-flop. Since their range is very strong, they won't fold a ton, my normal approach is to try to get some decent equity, like gutshot + BDFD and go for a check-raise and put some pressure on them(since they cbet at a high frequency). Is it any good? Or should I be playing more defensive, trying to realize my equity rather than try to deny his? I usually go for stabs OTT with equity too, which seems to be a good play, but I can't get too crazy since those guys love to slowplay some pairs and bluff catch me.
Here are my graphs from the BB(150k hands sample):
Called 2-bet
Called 2-bet IP(b vs b)
Called 2-bet OOP
Is that winrate any good for the pre-flop actions? Take into consideration I'm calling a very tight range OOP, while loose vs SB opens.
Here are my winrates per position, are them normal?
Btw, ended up playing yesterday, played well, running like garbage still lol, having to make the sickest folds in the world in spots where if I were villain and villain were in my shoes, I'm 100% sure they would lose their entire stack rather than 10bbs lol.
Will go out with friends today
Some hands
H1: turn should be slightly bigger with my range, OTR we should use a smaller sizing, right? Villain was kinda stationy vs me, so he was calling with overpairs/9x and I didn't think he could have many 7x, so went with the jam.
H4: testing xenoblade's idea of having really small sizings for value, vs unknown. Good? OTR it's a fold, right? Couldn't do it with the pot odds, meh, but guy isn't bluffing and this card could be one of his 2 outters.
BTN shows 8 8 (Full House, Eights full of Fours)
(Pre 19%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%) Hero mucks T T (Two Pair, Tens and Fours)
(Pre 81%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%) BTN wins 168.24 BB
H5: testing Avaritia's idea of 4-betting people who are 3-betting a ton. Meh, I'm done with doing that, as I said, people who are ******ed enough to 3-bet 50% are ******ed enough to make crap like this with J2o lol.
fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 20 BB, CO calls 13 BB
Flop:(41.5 BB, 2 players) K 9 J Hero bets 13.04 BB, CO raises to 469.6 BB and is all-in, fold
CO wins 64.2 BB
H6: vs guy that was squeezing quite a bit, vs a nit I fold the flop/turn, but can't fold this when this guy can be semibluffing so much, specially without the Js
H7: vs guy that looked like a reg, low sample on him. His overcalls are almost always 99-JJ, some AQ and sometimes QQ+, but these guys are usually afraid of flushes OTT, so they usually jam with their sets. I like my blockers, since I block slowplayed AA/KK which can't fold ever, so went for the jam to fold TT/JJ and AQ.
That sucks dude I think u should really look into your brm. It doesnt seem healthy playing a game with 20 BI if you are not a clear and consistent winner. I guess you have a pretty high std too, which makes it worse.
That sucks dude I think u should really look into your brm. It doesnt seem healthy playing a game with 20 BI if you are not a clear and consistent winner. I guess you have a pretty high std too, which makes it worse.
I have a >2bbev/100 winrate over 160k hands, not huge sample but I'm confident I have an edge vs the pool
running +30 bi below ev in 40k hands is the problem here, which leads me into tilting
will keep playing on 50z for 3 months, will do my best to not look at results, let's see if I can do it. chances of going busto will increase, but I'm fine with that
you read the mental game of poker yet? Get on it! If I had a hard copy I'd post you the damn thing but only have audiobook which could be the best version.
This thing about not wanting to view results I'm not sure actually helps. You are still thinking about results whether you are looking at them or not.
Playing super loose with 20bi br is ******ed, and basically suicide. You should chill out and grind 16z for a month, win some money, work on your game, it would improve your mindset a lot. Like I said ages ago, you will have a bigger hourly on 16z than 50/100z.
you read the mental game of poker yet? Get on it! If I had a hard copy I'd post you the damn thing but only have audiobook which could be the best version.
This thing about not wanting to view results I'm not sure actually helps. You are still thinking about results whether you are looking at them or not.
I have problems by learning stuff from the books. In the university I didn't read almost any book, needed to figure it out the explanation for stuff like fluid dynamics by myself with the professor's notes. I'm quite a weird person when it comes to learning stuff.
But thanks for the suggestion, man.
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Playing super loose with 20bi br is ******ed, and basically suicide. You should chill out and grind 16z for a month, win some money, work on your game, it would improve your mindset a lot. Like I said ages ago, you will have a bigger hourly on 16z than 50/100z.
Yeah, 16z is way softer, but when I'm playing my best, I think my hourly is higher on 50z.
I have problems by learning stuff from the books. In the university I didn't read almost any book, needed to figure it out the explanation for stuff like fluid dynamics by myself with the professor's notes. I'm quite a weird person when it comes to learning stuff.
But thanks for the suggestion, man.
Yeah, 16z is way softer, but when I'm playing my best, I think my hourly is higher on 50z.
Ha, I'm the compete opposite, couldn't learn a thing from those mad profs with mad hair
H3: I'm such a pussy lol. It took me a ton of time to make this river call. Decided to flat pre because 3-bettor was unknown, so I don't like getting it in vs a potential nit, which will only stackoff with better(which is pretty common for unknowns). Wp póst-flop?
UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO raises to 14.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 13.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 102.28 BB and is all-in, CO calls 87.78 BB, BB calls 84.64 BB and is all-in
Flop:(305.2 BB, 3 players) 3 7 Q
Turn:(305.2 BB, 3 players) 3
River:(305.2 BB, 3 players) J
Spoiler:
Hero shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Threes)
Main Pot [298.92 BB]: (Pre 77%, Flop 71%, Turn 98%)
Side Pot#1 [6.28 BB]: (Pre 89%, Flop 85%, Turn 98%)
CO shows Q J (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
Main Pot [298.92 BB]: (Pre 9%, Flop 14%, Turn 1%)
Side Pot#1 [6.28 BB]: (Pre 11%, Flop 15%, Turn 2%)
BB shows 9 Q (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
Main Pot [298.92 BB]: (Pre 14%, Flop 14%, Turn 1%)
Hero wins 301.2 BB
H5: vs 1 AF reg with 29 AFQ and 0.8 AF OTR lol. The world is not safe anymore, guys. If he is making plays like these all the time, he is printing vs me a ton lol.
i check in on this thread every once in a while. the only thing that is for certain is your are playing over your head in limits. even if you run under EV over 150k hands you should still be able to turn a profit say if you are 10bb EV player and only running at 8 actual. 2bb/100 is barely beating the game and should consider moving down.
Aren't you always folding? lol!
Do you know what to you say to nits, my old BBV friend?
Spoiler:
Not today
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Haha did not notice that one but wow
Hoping op misread board
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Originally Posted by bbissick
H7 fold is criminal, don't over think it man, that fold is just losing way too much money
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Originally Posted by Maverick93
Jesus Christ rapid...that h7 fold has honestly got to be a troll.
I didn't even think it was that sick of a fold, took me less than 10s to make it. It's a murder to GTO play ofc, but I had my reasons to do so, guy was really passive, he could have some Ax raising the flop(and always slowplaying quads ofc), he was the type of guy that wouldn't raise the second nuts afraid of getting called by the nuts.
Another reason I had was that there was a fish to act behind, and it was quite obvious that I had Ax, so the value of jamming becomes lower than calling because the fish would get scared. This is only true because:
Spoiler:
Nobody folds Ax there
When nobody folds Ax there, he will basically get called by quads(which he can think that I could have there, but I can't) and chops, lose value from the fish and some extra rake money.
Basically I have to fold there because nobody else does, which is quite annoying. But I would say that I'm folding there only against around 10% of the pool, just the nittiest of nits, if a competent player is jamming there I'm always calling.
This guy was probably so bad that he couldn't realize he had the nuts with A6hh and nobody could have him beat.
I have a ton of leaks in my game, spew a ton, but the only area that I'm really confident in is that how I'm capable of not paying these nits off in those cooler spots where they never bluff or valuebet worse.