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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
no and fwiw i use to play 100% like you -- no fear, dont want to fold and trying to win *every* pot. I honestly think its an OK way to start out because u start out too passive, go to too aggro, and then hopefully find the middle ground
wwsf is good, but for how aggrotard u are im surprised its not higher.
I'm not trying to win every pot, sometime ago I was doing that, but it's just dumb and I realized that. What I'm doing now is fighting and bullying people who aren't paying attention/don't care, like weaktight fish and 4-tabling nit regs that are setmining every time and folding on every flop they don't hit.
WWSF is quite high for a normal vpip, but it's actually insane high because I play with 31 VPIP, to have a 50 wwsf stat while playing garbage like 72o is really hard. With tigher pre-flop ranges it would be much higher.
Right now I'm trying to find the middle ground and I think I found it, I've always went from very aggro to very nitty trying to find that sweet spot where people won't be able to overfold easily vs me and will still need to make some calls.
The key point in that is that I realized that small pots are way more important than big ones. People don't care about losing a 5bb pot, but they fight until their death in 200bb ones. Back in the beginning of the last year I was trying to make very ambitious bluffs, trying to make people fold 2-pairs+. Right now I'm more focused on making them lay down their K high, bottom pairs, maybe TPWK. Also I realized that some nits are adjusting vs me in a very poor way: they overfold in small pots, expecting me to blast it off in a big pot and take my money.
So they overfold OTF and never fold OTT/OTR, which gives me a really strong advantage if I'm playing properly(ofc I'll loose a ton of money if I take a bad approach vs them, like trying to bluff them).
Just as an example, look in the H6, where I had AA and villain probably had 65s, let's imagine I had AQdd there. He raised the flop as a bluff, when he got his straight, he checked back giving me equity rather than shoving, expecting me to bluff a ton of my range into his nuts(because I'm aggrolol). If he had jammed the turn, I had to call, since I dominated his bluffs and that was one of my best hands vs his value range. But he decided to just check back and give me free equity, and he wasn't folding if I had just jammed the river.
Basically he let me draw for free and gave him a chance of going busto when I hit. While in that example it doesn't affect my wwsf at all, it increases my EV by crazy amounts.
Now look at this different scenario:
villain opens from BTN, I flat from BB with AsTo, board is Q22ss, he makes it 33%, he has KQ. I call, turn is a blank 6, villain checks to induce my bluffs OTR and will call all rivers. He basically decided not to deny my equity and get value from my worse hands to "get value from my bluffs". Guess what, if I'm never bluffing him(which is probably what I'm doing, since I know he is a station and will never fold), he will give me 12% chance to outdraw him for free, and the worst part is that he will call when I hit my ace. Basically a ton of people are adapting like that vs me, which is just bad.
Back then in 25z I was really ******ed and fell for tricks like that, so the game became way easy for regs that were adapting by making tactics like that, which work only vs huge aggrofish. In this spot I gained some WWSF for free also.
Basically we can divide people in 100z in 3 types of players:
1)Players that don't care/don't fight
2)Players that are super stationy and that are playing super explo strats expecting me to bluff my money like a monkey
3)Solid players that play their ranges well and put me into tough spots
Guess which of those are harder to play against?
And to make it even worse for those guys, there's hands like H1, which is an "overplay". TBH I overdid on that hand, but vs that player I'm really fine doing that, since he can have AQ/AK that will call the river. It was an exploitative valuebet, since I expected villain to make very exploitative calls, like with TPTK/TPGK. I've become really good into making those kind of plays because some guys out there are calling me really light, and when I saw guys calling my triple barrels with bottom pair/A high, I learned very quickly to valuebet insanely thin. Which makes the game like a nightmare for opponents that are playing like that vs me.
I also learned to hold myself to not overbluff in spots where my value range is really narrow too, so I basically only bluff with perfect blockers in those spots vs those guys.
Aggrotards are the biggest enemies of nits, and I've learned pretty well about how to deal with those nits that are stationing me like crazy. The most inreresting thing is that I'm capable of even outnitting the nits lol. Just see how many hero folds I've made, they're basically never getting value with their good hands and are always getting valueowned.
I think my strat is going really well vs the pool, but I still have a lot to learn, specially as the pre-flop caller, like when calling 3-bets/steals. It's a part of my game that is very primitive/random.