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01-23-2019 , 08:13 AM
Ur logic is he's a passive fish, why you check flop then??
Obs you should never check here if ur not c/r as allready stated. So the conversation about him not betting worse is useless as your the one who should be betting.

I have noted tons of hands before that are clear valuebets chen u check/call all the time and only bet yourself with bluffs instead. Your playing the game backwords :P

Passive fish = BET, BET, BET BIG
Fish (and most regs actually) like to call light alot more then betting light/bluffing themself.

Also ur saying u have played a million hands or something, thats only proof of you doing everything wrong. There have been so many trying to help or give you directions but every time you come up with some complicated magical equation on how your right.

To beat your stakes this is what you need to know.

1. Good preflop game with solid 3bet/4bet ranges (u seem to be lacking this as i see you flatting so many hands) Just picking up charts from upswing or something would make you alot better probably.

2. Learn some basics in counting combos, calculating river spots to make sure your not overbluffing.

3. Valuebet thin.

Thats it! No ****ing pio solver, exploiting this or that propulation what or who.

This quote summarizes what im talking about so good.

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Originally Posted by Vo2Max
You going for some doctor grade about micros. How many years education is it?
Eager to know the final conclusion how to beat micros. And how all of us moved pass micros without all this theory you can provide.
01-23-2019 , 08:23 AM
Rapidesh how do you make these razor thin assumptions (to the point of certainty) about how fish play this spot, when you clearly said few days earlier your biggest leak is playing against fish? You really dont see the problem? Your game is way too assumptive, you cant just put a random player on an exact range when you have so little info. For all you know he might be more trappy with sets, but play his Jx this way for „protection” and „getting money before board gets ugly” or whatever other reason recs use.
01-23-2019 , 08:37 AM
H9 I don't agree, but if you think his river call is terrible, then why bet river for this sizing vs a range that is going to be exclusively Kx/9x/boats/broadway flushes?

Not accepting any answers about how you have pinpoint accuracy on exactly how villain plays the strong parts of his range on flops/turns.
01-23-2019 , 09:03 AM
I'm starting to think this is a massive brag by rapid...

Him playing the way he does and still having a bankroll is impressive.

I finally got it rapid, wp.
01-23-2019 , 09:05 AM
like Jose said you make so many razor thin assumptions based on tiny samples you are really exploiting yourself more than your opponents, this **** is costing you money man
01-23-2019 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kangal_
H9 I don't agree, but if you think his river call is terrible, then why bet river for this sizing vs a range that is going to be exclusively Kx/9x/boats/broadway flushes?

Not accepting any answers about how you have pinpoint accuracy on exactly how villain plays the strong parts of his range on flops/turns.
What sizing do you suggest? I haven't studied river sizings on rivers like that in pio yet, but I like having just one sizing which I can valuebet A9/TT. So if he raises I will have boats/flushes/Kx in my range protecting those thin valuebets. Also exploitatively I see a lot of people making more mistakes vs that sizing, like not raising as much for thin value with flushes and that sizing gives me room to 3-bet jam him, increasing the value of position.

Why do you think his call is any good? This is a river where a lot of people will struggle to bluff at the required frequency because lots of draws got there, so my bluffs will be most likely QT/QJ/JT/78, he blocks QT and JT, ok that he blocks T8/99/A9/K9, but in a spot where my bluff candidates aren't a huge part of my range it's more important to unblock bluffs than block value imo. Most of the time blocking value will be more important, but not here.

If he had the Ts, cool, even A9hh is fine, now calling with 9T/9J/9Q without the spade is just bad imo. If he isn't folding that combo otr what is he folding? He can't call all 9x in that spot ever, so it makes sense in theory to have some 9x to fold, with the worst combos it makes more sense to fold that.

Exploitatively vs population I think it's ok to fold all bluffcatchers in that spot and defend Kx+, with some SDV turned into bluffs like 97.
01-23-2019 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
like Jose said you make so many razor thin assumptions based on tiny samples you are really exploiting yourself more than your opponents, this **** is costing you money man
It's not that often that I make those stupid folds, also I post every single big fold I make here. But meh, I don't know what to do in those spots, rake is so high that I can't afford to be wrong. Gotta consider that I have 8bb/100 of rake to pay and there aren't as many whales in the pool to sustain that.

If I can't soul read villain, I can't beat the rake, so in order for me to beat that game I have to fold and to be right, if villain has bluffs or KJo it's gg for me. On higher stakes I can allow myself to be wrong more often because the rake pressure is lower, also most people won't underbluff that much in that spot.
01-23-2019 , 09:35 AM
you're much more likely to be wrong by folding here than by calling, just sayin
01-23-2019 , 09:36 AM
Vs the frequent 4better why not call the AJo IP? Should be pretty easy to play from there on. I'd rather 5b bluff jam A2-5s etc or are you never flatting 4b's?
01-23-2019 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by samcx
Vs the frequent 4better why not call the AJo IP? Should be pretty easy to play from there on. I'd rather 5b bluff jam A2-5s etc or are you never flatting 4b's?
With that rake there shouldn't be many calls vs 4-bets, AJo is a poor choice vs a balanced 4-betting range, although it's printing vs overbluffs. It's better to call ATs-AQs than AJo-AQo type of hands, as well as 78s than KQs/A5s. And yeah, better to bluff A5s than AJo.

Btw, decided to take 2 days off from playing, will go out today and study pio tomorrow, any spot suggestions given the hands you saw me playing?

Will do my best to recover my mental game to play well on friday, can't put badly played sessions anymore.
01-23-2019 , 12:55 PM
So the latest excuse is rake is in your way. So gotta fold to win 50dollars lets say 80 out of 100 times bc 1 dollar rake destroyes everything.
You have so many stupid things going on.
You do not do this to make a living. Ok why the fk play 50nl with 60bi?
Move up and show us all how rake is in your way.
You understand? You say you beat the game but rake cuts your wr. Jump into 200nl where you in your own words dont have to pay attention to rake and print...
Such a mess you and your whole thread! Your head must be boiling at daily basis.
01-23-2019 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Vo2Max
So the latest excuse is rake is in your way. So gotta fold to win 50dollars lets say 80 out of 100 times bc 1 dollar rake destroyes everything.
You have so many stupid things going on.
You do not do this to make a living. Ok why the fk play 50nl with 60bi?
Move up and show us all how rake is in your way.
You understand? You say you beat the game but rake cuts your wr. Jump into 200nl where you in your own words dont have to pay attention to rake and print...
Such a mess you and your whole thread! Your head must be boiling at daily basis.
project much?
01-23-2019 , 02:01 PM
OP, play +EV poker and if the rake is stopping you from winning, play a different game. Build your bankroll through MTTs or something, then play 200nl zoom where the rake is lower. Or just deposit more money and play 200nl zoom, thus bypassing what you believe to be rake trap games at the lower limits.

It's pretty silly to continue playing games that you believe to be rake traps, just because.
01-23-2019 , 02:04 PM
50z is not a rake trap. Rake at 200z is not lower enough to compensate for the skill difference between the stakes, not even close. As such griding roll in mtts to jump straight into 200z is just pointless imo (considering you will def not improve your game meanwhile).
01-23-2019 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
50z is not a rake trap. Rake at 200z is not lower enough to compensate for the skill difference between the stakes, not even close. As such griding roll in mtts to jump straight into 200z is just pointless imo (considering you will def not improve your game meanwhile).
The bigger your edge vs the pool, lower is the effect of rake. If you beat the game by 9bb/100(before rake) with a 8bb/100 rake, if the rake is reduced to 7bb/100, your winrate will be doubled, now if you beat that game by 15bb/100, your winrate will increase by less than 20% if the rake is decreased by 1bb /100.

I think you're underestimating how big the impact of the rake is, I wouldn't be surprised if a gto bot would make more bb/100 at 200z than at 25z after rake.

The truth is that I spewed my opportunity at 200z now I have to grind this cancer stake. I dislike having to do that, but I won't give up, as I said before, this won't be the kind of thread that people give up after a downswing. It doesn't matter how bad things go, I will move down to 16z if needed, I will make it in poker.

Also I don't need poker to live and I have lots of fun playing/studying, so it's basically a freeroll.
01-23-2019 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
What's the problem with bluffing 100bbs? In those spots I bluff I have a decent idea about my value range/blockers/villain's range and just go for it, std.

Villain in this hand was marked as a fish with passive stats, somethings you must know about fish ranges in that spot:

1- the fish will have a x range
2- the fish will have a small betting range
3- the fish will have a big betting range.

His x back range will be most likely garbage hands with bad equity/some pps
His small betting range will have bluffs he wants to stab and win the pot and he will be happy with that. He will have thin value bets like 66 in there
Now what goes into his big betting range? I'm pretty sure he has 0 sets on all other ranges and only in the big betting range, sure that he will have some AJ, but these guys are pussies to the point of not even going that big with AJ (or maybe 0 Jx). Gotta remember that they love betting small to make sure they will get calls, they do that all the time.

There's another player profile who can bet that big with garbage/thin value/protection, which is an aggro whale, but this guy had like 20/10 stats and 30 afq on each street, I was confident there was a 0 chance he was a whale.

On top of that, these nitfish never fold pps pre, they set mine all the time because people give them reasons to. I'm not even sure if he calls KJo in there and he could 3bet some AJ combos pre. Vs a preflop range very heavy with pps, it's a good fold of my read on his ranges 1,2 and 3 are right. I've ran a sim to see how pio plays vs a range with many pps in there, it cbets very often and almost range checks any turn (something that people used to do in 2009-2013 when everyone was setmining like crazy). Vs that range there isn't that much value to be made, since most of villain's range will be very bad equity hands or nuts.

I play vs these nits since I started poker, gotta remember that I played 500+k hands of FR, mostly at nl10 back in 2013, it wasn't uncommon to see a table filled with 14 vpip ppl. And on 6-max most of my volume was on 50z, a stake where most of the population is very nitty too. You don't beat nits by playing reasonable poker, you just overbluff them all the time and get out of the way if you think he will be underbluffing.

He needs to win around 23bbs from me for his setmines to breakeven, and I will rarely see his sizing scheme imo, so most of the time he will bet small, I will x/r and bluff him off his equity or get some thin value along the way, when he has a set he will never get paid. That's how I like playing vs these guys.

I know it's micro stakes logic, but that's how micro stakes people play: they have exactly what they have amd they are afraid of valuebetting thin, specially for a big sizing. I know how insane it is to fold QQ in there, but if you take into account that guy won't use that sizing scheme almost never (and it's very unlikely that he will use the reverse logic), I can soul read him.

Tbh check-calling turn and x/f all rivers seems best if he has AJ in his range. But I'm not sure about that.
This is actually an excellent post, not sure why it received any hate at all.
01-23-2019 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Adversitive
Ur logic is he's a passive fish, why you check flop then??
Obs you should never check here if ur not c/r as allready stated.
That would be a massive overplay vs almost anyone, but especially vs a passive fish. Although b/b/decide what to do on river is probably the right line.
01-23-2019 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
This is actually an excellent post, not sure why it received any hate at all.
Because you fail to see how mixed (fkd up) his game is. Its all over the place.
Next post is back to pio, eraction, overbluff, otb, vamoo and other things he mixes in with his overall leaks.
In his mind he thinks he knowes exactly what ranges nitfish, fish, loose fish
Kenguru and monkeys holds in any hand. So he folds if nitfish bets.
What he dont understand is behind the other screen players adjust to him
And sees how easy it is to bluff him. The real nitfish is himself.
He just spew ranges for fishes without having any ide of that particualry player
Its circus! In his mind everything he does is 100% correct! There are players who started poker last summer who is allready playing nl100 i know about.
They beat the stakes, playes and rake fra nl25.
01-23-2019 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vo2Max
There are players who started poker last summer who is allready playing nl100 i know about.
They beat the stakes, playes and rake fra nl25.
Maybe, but unlikely. It's much more likely they ran like god over a small sample size while using an inferior strategy that would lose over a large sample size at those stakes. I'm highly suspicious of the actual "skill" of *any* player that rises from 2NL to 100NL in less than 5 years or so.
01-23-2019 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Maybe, but unlikely. It's much more likely they ran like god over a small sample size while using an inferior strategy that would lose over a large sample size at those stakes. I'm highly suspicious of the actual "skill" of *any* player that rises from 2NL to 100NL in less than 5 years or so.
lol. I started playing less than 3 years ago. in about a year of playing I was beating 100nl. before you say god run or sample size, my sample size is over half a million hands
01-23-2019 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
It's not that often that I make those stupid folds, also I post every single big fold I make here. But meh, I don't know what to do in those spots, rake is so high that I can't afford to be wrong. Gotta consider that I have 8bb/100 of rake to pay and there aren't as many whales in the pool to sustain that.

If I can't soul read villain, I can't beat the rake, so in order for me to beat that game I have to fold and to be right, if villain has bluffs or KJo it's gg for me. On higher stakes I can allow myself to be wrong more often because the rake pressure is lower, also most people won't underbluff that much in that spot.
Hi Rapid.

If bolded is true, you should move up to where a balanced strategy>soul reads.

However, I think bolded is not true. I think if you played a more balanced, less hypercomplicated strategy, you would win more at the stake you are at, while improving your existing strategy all the while getting ready to move back up.
01-23-2019 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
If I can't soul read villain, I can't beat the rake
Jesus **** I never thought you could be this damn stupid.
01-23-2019 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Maybe, but unlikely. It's much more likely they ran like god over a small sample size while using an inferior strategy that would lose over a large sample size at those stakes. I'm highly suspicious of the actual "skill" of *any* player that rises from 2NL to 100NL in less than 5 years or so.
Funnyguy
01-23-2019 , 11:09 PM
many funny guys in this thread

it's why this is my favourite thread
01-23-2019 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
Rapidesh how do you make these razor thin assumptions (to the point of certainty) about how fish play this spot, when you clearly said few days earlier your biggest leak is playing against fish? You really dont see the problem? Your game is way too assumptive, you cant just put a random player on an exact range when you have so little info. For all you know he might be more trappy with sets, but play his Jx this way for „protection” and „getting money before board gets ugly” or whatever other reason recs use.
This is so well said & written, I couldn't have chosen better words to express what I feel about your game.

*sips no-sugar energy drink while applauding JoseMourinho*

      
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