Playing a little bit more recently, but not as much as I wanted, started focusing harder in the last days. Spent a lot of time studying, specially the team's strat, insanely good, loving it, but I feel that I'm still not 100% into it, I'm deviating in some spots and making some old plays where I should just play what is advised. I believe it's because I'm still not as humble as I thought I was, gotta be more humble and apply well, even pass some good spots because they deviate so much from the strat and at this point I have to be able to follow their strat and trust the team. If I can't do that right now that's easy, how can I do that in the future? They are insane good, best team in the world (not counting the closed teams like linus' and makeboifin one and gay UK crew).

Don't get me wrong, I'm playing completely different than I used to play and it's really good, following the strat a lot, but it's hard to avoid the old sick plays, I used to 3-bet any2 in a lot of spots, now having to play proper pre-flop ranges is a challenge, I wasn't very disciplined. But it's a good thing now, I'm learning how to be more disciplined in my plays, having a boss is so good, like, you can't do all BS plays you want and it's good practice, even though some plays were +EV, 3-betting T7o is very bad and plays like that should be avoided.

A lot of you guys think that I just don't listen, sure, overall I wasn't very good at taking advice, but I've changed in the last years, I've listened to a lot of good advice here in this thread, but it's a process, I really wanna reach the high stakes and I will work a lot and open my mind to new ideas so I can get there!


Some hands


H1: directly from the NASA headquarters haha, flop is fine, turn is fine, here it's why I played the river like I did:



PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 187.36 BB
Hero (BB): 112.48 BB
UTG: 98.6 BB
CO: 75.52 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) K 9 8
Hero checks, UTG bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn: (10.4 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, UTG bets 6.4 BB, Hero raises to 23.4 BB, UTG calls 17 BB

River: (57.2 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, UTG bets 27.2 BB, Hero raises to 84.08 BB and is all-in, fold




H2: so good to get paid off with a straight flush! Villain called really fast lol

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 124.56 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 40.84 BB
SB: 75.44 BB
Hero (BB): 104.96 BB
UTG: 53.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5 4

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (5.2 BB, 2 players) Q 3 A
Hero checks, CO bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 6.48 BB, CO calls 5.48 BB

Turn: (18.16 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 6 BB, CO calls 6 BB

River: (30.16 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO bets 20 BB, Hero raises to 90.08 BB and is all-in, CO calls 65.12 BB and is all-in




H3: Played this some months ago, before I've joined the team, so bad to 3-bet this, sure, gotta reisolate the fish a lot, but T7o is garbage.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 69.04 BB
CO: 122.88 BB
BTN: 97.6 BB
Hero (SB): 214.68 BB
BB: 107.96 BB
UTG: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T 7

fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 10 BB

Flop: (28 BB, 2 players) 8 Q 5
Hero bets 6 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

Turn: (40 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 19 BB, BTN calls 19 BB

River: (78 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 59.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 59.6 BB

Sounds like you still chase the "highlight plays", "FPS", etc. and that it's your main drive for playing poker. Doesn't seem like the money makes a difference to you whether you have a good week or a bad week. It also sounds like you don't understand or try to get to the bottom of why the team is advising decisions, and instead you deeply believe that your approach to poker is more trustworthy and profitable?

"I really wanna reach the high stakes" - I'm just not buying it. You reek of complacency and arrogance.

Yeah, we don't have a ton of value since we XR some 8x on the flop, and we could just be drawing dead with our value and draws, so we don't need to reach for bad gutters here. We have plenty of combo draws and flush draws to use.

Is he posting this hand when he gets called on and loses?

Rapi might be the best reverse engineer here.



In what world is UTG open 3x going to call with a K (no kicker) here vs BB with that board/action? His line isn't even that bad, I'm not sure what makes you rag on V here? You seem to have massive mental game leaks.

I don't seek those crazy hands, I just like posting the coolest hands here, I don't chase those hands, I play to make money. It doesn't make much difference if I'm winning or losing anymore, I've played around 2.5m hands so far(most of it with a low winrate, 3bb, which increase the amounts and length of downswings) and experienced many downswings.

Thanks for the sim, yeah, QJ is a bit too much OTT, better to not bluff that. Btw, things might change a bit if you force IP to range cbet and add more KJ/KQ barreling turn,but I see, T7 is way better in there.

It's funny that you say that I post only when I win, most of the hh I've posted in my old threads were losing ones looking for advice. Now I just like posting HH that makes me look good (and are very interesting too), I think playing poker is some form of art and it's very beautiful, there's a lot o subtletly on how a hand is played, specially when you have gto easily accessible and think about your incentives to go explo. I really wanna post the coolest hands, but from time to time I want to post some backfires too, but my backfires look really bad (as you might guess it), so not much point in posting badly played hands that I already know are mistakes here. I want this to be a cool place for people to look at some crazy HH from time to time, laugh a bit, like with the x/x x/x 2x pot overbet with 4th pair to get calls from A high vs the reg lol

Btw, I was afraid of getting called by random A high bluffs after my line, it doesn't make much sense, there's so little left, I've been called in spots like that with K high going for the bluff, then calling because I rep nothing. His bet is a very greedy play and very big mistake imo, makes 0 sense, after betting that it's ok to fold, but I can see people bet-callimg there with Kx

Unironically you should just fold QJo preflop vs a 3x. Also, using GTOwizard like that to evaluate the play is probably not the best approach. Especially when the preflop ranges will be wildly different, hero shouldn't even have the hand, and UTG is likely just ranging flop for 30%.

Really? It's basically BB vs MP here

Ppl underestimate the difference between min opens vs 2.5x vs 3x open sizes.
QJo is performing poorly vs 3x open from MP.
Think of how Qx and Jx combos he has that dominate QJo.

I thought it was vs. UTG, but even vs. MP and with 25nl rake this is still going to be ~0ev or slightly negative.

25nl also has 0.4bb for the SB, so there is 0.1bb less in the pot. This will lead to slightly tighter BB defends than other stakes with same rake structure when compared to the more traditional 0.5 and 1.0 blinds (like 1-2% tighter).

Is this more acceptable? I didn't account for the 3x open because Rapi likely doesn't. I'm not sure if I'm using the program perfectly and am open to feedback. I'm trying to improve my study game and use of these tools

Edit... Oh ffs I didn't even see UTG is actually MP here. I'm not changing it again, I'd rather just see if anyone thinks the parameters are okayish and/or what adjustments to make

It's better, but the main question one should ask themselves is how often IP c-bets turn and how often do they fold to the turn x/r. That's really the main things you want to know when determining how wide to x/r in this spot and if overdoing it with hands like QJo might be viable. You determine this by utilizing software to help you get an idea of what the equilibrium is as well as doing some range/stat construction on villain/population for the spot. I think a big problem people end up doing is clicking through GTOwizard (or their own piosims) and evaluating their turn/river play when the ranges at those nodes look nothing like reality because you or your opponent have already deviated from the constraints of the sim/model wildly.

I think your new sim is definitely a step in the right direction when attempting to evaluating the merits of raising QJo. In the sim you posted, IP is c-betting turn with a lot of AXs which probably doesn't happen at those frequencies in real life (could look at zone alias and turn barreling frequencies/range construction in h2n for this)... but the main thing is it has IP mixing folds with KQo? I don't think this will ever happen... so likely you end up with fewer bluffs from IP and still calling what looks to be 0ev calls at likely higher frequencies than the equilibrium sim. Both those things would reduce x/r bluff EV compared to the sim which was already never doing the x/r with QJo under your constraints. Without evaluating potentially +EV future nodes (river), this would conclude the turn play as basically not good.

its a peel at high stakes, fold at low stakes

Yeah, I only put so much trust into sims. Cool tools and want to understand them better though

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your opponent have already deviated from the constraints of the sim/model wildly.

This usually happens quite early in the game tree in most hands lol either way, I don't think you need a sim to deduce QJo is not a great bluffing candidate here.

Nailed it. Yeah, the x/r ott was a mistake, I was optimistic because these paired turns look so strong for us, villain has few 8x too.

Can't argue there, just pointing out how easy it is to get ool. You crush him here, maybe I just have no balls to vamooo

technically villain is supposed to never bet a king there, his range should be probably be busted draws and boats, thankfully he did bet fold his KJ

Yes, villain river bet is pretty silly.

The 500z legend, Benabadbeat used to play a very funky strat in spots like that, where people had a lot of bluffs oop that gave up and didn't protect their checking ranges well. He would minibet river IP and snap call vs overbet raises lol because nobody showed up with enough value with that line.

He even posted some HH of him doing that in his thread lol. Not saying it's good, but it's fun to see someone doing that.

You're playing vs. random people with no screen names for a limited number of hands if at a reg table and completely in a vacuum when playing zone. If you make unorthodox plays, then you should be able to definitively point to indisputable data to justify them. When I coached you a long time ago, I believe I basically said to stop all the FPS and focus on playing well. It's really difficult to improve if you're just constantly doing random stuff in a bunch of nodes of the game tree (especially preflop) without clear, consistent, and logical thought processes because then your game play is all over the place.

You should focus entirely on playing solid/good poker and implementing the exploits that your CFP has data on that will work. Any other exploits by you should be implemented only when you have the proper amount of data and understanding to do so. Any "sick plays" you're doing that are good are likely just completely negated by other very bad "sick plays". Stick to just playing solid and improving as a player and the money will very easily flow to you.

That is so minor but I never actually thought about that...

Thanks a lot man, very good advice. Yeah, gotta follow the team's strat and be very consistent. My goal for now is to internalize the strats that they're teaching as much as I can.

After I've done memorizing the team's strat completely and applying it to perfection I will study a lot of theory. That's the plan.

It's insanely important, also on bodog sometimes if someone loses a stack in the BB, they sit out on the SB and the game is played without the SB, my guess is that this should tighten up pretty much every RFI and defend by a decent amount when it happens.

important is relative

you play to make money / move up

optimizing your bb defense to SB putting 2 cents less out there is concerning

Wtf, something very crazy happened, I need help:

Bodog canceled my account, saying that (in portuguese):

"after a complete analysis of your account it was decided to cancel our comercial relationship with you. Your account will be permanently disabled."

"This decision was taken after a careful observation of the evidence and it is final."


When I got into the team I had to change the currency from real to dollar, then they asked for my documents (again, they were already validated). Then it was taking too long, I opened the chat support and they created a ticket about that, I sent the ID again and then it was verified, but the other review of the documents was still running, I couldn't play. Today in the morning it was ok and I started playing. Then out of a sudden I got disconnected and got this message.

Very crazy, if this is what's happening it will hurt my winrate so much, bodog is the best site by far.

Did they review the account and saw that I was a profitable player and decided I was -EV for the site and decided to terminate my account? Unbelievable what's happening, the craziest part is that they didn't give an explanation about it.

Ss the email