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06-21-2023 , 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcarvallob
1k hands per hour 4 tabling?
how is that possible u insta click when u know what to do?
i try to take all the free time on the river for timing tells
maybe that slow me down too much
I was playing a very nitty strat, but changed it, probably at 800 hands/hour now, tbh I like going super tight in these fishy games, but on stars there are so many nits that you lose a lot of value for not going wide vs them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZKesic
Do you have any tips on playing vs fish rapi? I feel that this is the worst part of my game. I just keep getting wrecked by them
You should be good at it by now, man, you played so much, but here are my tips on playing vs fish:

1 - bluff a lot when their range can have a lot of air, but whenever they start having more pairs+ you should give up a lot, so one and done strats work well vs them.

2 - call a lot, they're so wide and overbluff so much, watch out with A high calls because they often turn pairs into bluffs in a lot of spots, so try to call wide, but watch out for the threshold of their valuebluffs.

3 - overfold in underbluffed spots, for sure you know those

4 - attack capped ranges and if you're bluffing, don't be afraid and make it small, if you want to rep a FH and bluff them out of their bluffcatchers, size up a lot, attack with value too, don't be afraid to go very thin.

5 - induce is strong vs fish, but I'm bad at inducing

6 - trap in some spots where they can't have many bluffcatchers but they can bluff a lot, like this

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 141.12 BB
SB: 110.6 BB
BB: 422.44 BB
Hero (UTG): 261.08 BB
MP: 99.6 BB
CO: 441.36 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A A

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP raises to 9.52 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 8.52 BB, Hero raises to 26 BB, fold, BB calls 16.48 BB

Flop: (61.92 BB, 2 players) A 2 4
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (61.92 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 59.12 BB, Hero calls 59.12 BB

River: (180.16 BB, 2 players) K
BB bets 172.16 BB, Hero raises to 175.96 BB and is all-in, BB calls 3.8 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 83%, Flop 96%, Turn 95%)
BB shows 7 Q (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 17%, Flop 4%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 524.08 BB


Also if you want to get really good vs fish, play a bit on bodog and get the HH from there, you can learn so much by doing that, I used to be garbage vs fish, now thanks to the bodog HH, my coach and obv the massive number of fish to reg ratio that there is on bodog I learned how to be very good vs them. I believe my game vs fish is one of the best possible, so many sick plays, but still learning.
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06-21-2023 , 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
5 - induce is strong vs fish, but I'm bad at inducing
This is the main problem for me. I often don't know whether to value bet or slowplay vs fish.

For example:

We open KK in the CO vs BTN fish.

Flop: T83o

Do we just start betting big or do we check-raise? Which is better?

Similar situation happens when we isolate oop vs fish.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
4 - attack capped ranges
I'm also unsure about barreling 3 streets IP vs fish with air. Is it good?

On one side I don't like it too much as they call flop/turn a bunch. On the other side, they usually donk bet all the strongest hands on the river, which makes their checking range super weak.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
2 - call a lot, they're so wide and overbluff so much, watch out with A high calls because they often turn pairs into bluffs in a lot of spots
Yeah, hero calling is the only part of my strategy vs them that I'm actually confident in.

    $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

    SB: $103.74 (103.7 bb)
    BB: $94.25 (94.3 bb)
    CO: $218.15 (218.2 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $86.02 (86 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K 2
    CO folds, Hero raises to $2.24, SB folds, BB calls $1.24

    Flop: ($4.98) A 3 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($4.98) 6 (2 players)
    BB bets $2.49, Hero calls $2.49

    River: ($9.96) 8 (2 players)
    BB bets $9, Hero calls $9

    Spoiler:
    Results: $27.96 pot ($1.39 rake)
    Final Board: A 3 3 6 8
    BB showed Q 7 and lost (-$13.73 net)
    Hero mucked K 2 and won $26.57 ($12.84 net)

    He could easily be bluffing with K9o, though
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    06-21-2023 , 11:54 AM
    There's many types of fish.

    The kk t83r example is good. Vs a blaster agro fish always checking to xr or xc down. Vs a monster station passive I'll pot it. Vs a loose passive not super station I'll half pot it

    The fish usually have very heavy leans towards passive or aggressive//stationy or scared (esp otr) so being able to classify is 90% of the battle
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    06-21-2023 , 12:18 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZKesic
    This is the main problem for me. I often don't know whether to value bet or slowplay vs fish.

    For example:

    We open KK in the CO vs BTN fish.

    Flop: T83o

    Do we just start betting big or do we check-raise? Which is better?

    Similar situation happens when we isolate oop vs fish.

    On one side I don't like it too much as they call flop/turn a bunch. On the other side, they usually donk bet all the strongest hands on the river, which makes their checking range super weak.
    I've watched MMAsherdog's stream a lot and once he said that we should check our sets OOP vs fish and go for the check-raise, so it's good practice, not sure on how good MMA is vs fish, but it's safe to assume he is among the best in the world vs them.

    OOP I range check, tbh I don't think it's the best approach possible, but a very strong one and very easy to apply, you should think a bit too about how much of your energy you spend in playing, range checking vs someone who is stabbing very wide is a strong strat. Obv I x/r mostly value vs fish and I pay a lot of attention into their sizings, often pot bets are TP+, it doesn't mean you should be afraid with overpairs, but it's a good idea to see what they do OTT before folding/shipping/calling, they will often give up the strength of their hand, here it's a very good example, watch out for his sizing OTT, he rarely has a good hand in there, so you should ship very wide for value.

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    CO: 100 BB
    BTN: 114.22 BB
    SB: 100 BB
    Hero (BB): 138.66 BB
    UTG: 126.94 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

    fold, CO checks, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, CO calls 4 BB

    Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) J 6 2
    Hero bets 3 BB, CO raises to 11 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

    Turn: (32.5 BB, 2 players) 9
    Hero checks, CO bets 15.44 BB, Hero raises to 122.66 BB and is all-in, CO calls 68.56 BB and is all-in

    River: (200.5 BB, 2 players) 6

    Spoiler:
    CO shows 4 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Sixes)
    (Pre 19%, Flop 7%, Turn 13%)
    Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes)
    (Pre 81%, Flop 93%, Turn 87%)


    Hero wins 194.5 BB


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZKesic

    Yeah, hero calling is the only part of my strategy vs them that I'm actually confident in.
    I think you should fold turn with K2, but I prefer just bluffing flop


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZKesic
    I'm also unsure about barreling 3 streets IP vs fish with air. Is it good?
    Don't overbluff vs fish on triple barrels, it's lighting money on fire, unless they're nitfish, then it's a must

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pokerarb
    There's many types of fish.

    The kk t83r example is good. Vs a blaster agro fish always checking to xr or xc down. Vs a monster station passive I'll pot it. Vs a loose passive not super station I'll half pot it

    The fish usually have very heavy leans towards passive or aggressive//stationy or scared (esp otr) so being able to classify is 90% of the battle
    this 100%, but you need some history first to classify them, when you first see a fish or in an anonymous site you have to guess a lot. I like x/c a lot in that T83r spot with KK vs aggro guys, there's also the possibility to bet small to induce and x/j turn vs a whale, it's called a "stack-a-donk" line lol.
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    06-26-2023 , 09:23 PM
    Crazy, played so much on stars this month, this has been such a trainwreck, I'm definitely going back to bodog, but going to make one post about nl25 on stars, quite interesting place in there. I used to think that nits were easy to beat, but it turns out that they mostly give up EV by existing, but it's hard to extract much value from them, since they're putting money only with sets+ AK+/QQ+ pre. Sure, HU I crush them really hard, but on a 6-max game they have it so easy with the first 2 positions, also I thought that they would tilt when I started 3-betting and 4-betting a lot, no, few regs were obviously tilted versus me, on this sample I 5-bet bluff only twice lol. It's so crazy to see people tanking with KK facing a 5-bet, while on bodog people snap QQ+/AK+ vs pretty much anything lol

    NL25 - The Nitland

    First, quite insane how nitty everyone is, the main reason I'm quitting this stake it's because it's hurting my game, I was forcing myself to valuebet less thin, bluff more and fold way more, so it's basically a recipe to get owned by a solver lol. Saw so many terrible check backs that hurt my eyes more than the whale plays I see on bodog, games are fun mostly because of stars great software, it's very smooth to play in there and rakeback is decent, but it's a nightmare to grind 25z on stars, really can't see myself in there grinding, it's like some sort of torture lol, so many nut peddlers in there. Here it was my approach:

    The Strat - Outnitting the nits from EP and going crazy from LP

    This was my first approach to the stake lol, thought that this strat would crush them very hard, but I've found out that people after some hands were starting to adapt to my HUD stats, and they don't have much balls to fight back, so what they did was just playing tighter vs me from EP and they kept folding from LP, decent, but meh, my winrate was garbage. Also I was one of the few people calling OTR, they very likely marked me as a station and started what they like to do: underbluff. After the 10th overbet in a row that I've called down and lost I've decided just to start folding vs them lol. They can't even think about their ranges, they just see "strong hand, overbet".


    Then I've started overbluffing, yeah, it works but not very well, because:

    1 - This is still NL25, some of the pool is very bad and can't hand read, so moving regfish off 2 pairs is somewhat a challenge.
    2 - Depending on how someone overfolds, it can turn bluffs on later streets very unprofitable, saw so many people overfolding flop and turn to oblivion, so river jams were terrible as bluffs (and even for value with TPTK type of hands).
    3 - Vs some people in the pool you can't even get into some good explo spots later, how can you get to the river in a 3-bet pot with a 17/12 opening from the CO and outplay him? You exploit them by folding and getting the free EV for not facing a 3-bet or a defend from BB/SB and overfolding vs their 3-bets.
    4 - Most hands ended up OTF/OTT, a lot of the EV in poker is made OTR, and it's my strongest street imo.

    I've played without a HUD, I've saw some stats on pt4 though, was curious to see some regs in there. Here are the results:



    49 WWSF, meh, tbh I autopiloted a lot and didn't force much aggression until later

    Some HH:

    H1: extreme overbluff vs reg, my blockers are beyond anything remotely reasonable lol, but vaaaaaaaaaamo

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): 128.76 BB
    SB: 100 BB
    BB: 109.88 BB
    UTG: 46.04 BB
    MP: 99.24 BB
    CO: 186.84 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A A

    fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

    Flop: (5.04 BB, 2 players) 6 7 6
    BB checks, Hero bets 1.2 BB, BB raises to 5.96 BB, Hero calls 4.76 BB

    Turn: (16.96 BB, 2 players) T
    BB bets 5.36 BB, Hero calls 5.36 BB

    River: (27.68 BB, 2 players) 7
    BB bets 19.84 BB, Hero raises to 115.12 BB and is all-in, fold

    Spoiler:
    Hero wins 64.32 BB


    H2: ez

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): 103.2 BB
    SB: 116.2 BB
    BB: 118.6 BB
    UTG: 100 BB
    MP: 109.68 BB
    CO: 100 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K K

    UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

    Flop: (17.4 BB, 2 players) A T 7
    UTG checks, Hero bets 4.16 BB, UTG calls 4.16 BB

    Turn: (25.72 BB, 2 players) J
    UTG checks, Hero checks

    River: (25.72 BB, 2 players) 6
    UTG bets 18.44 BB, Hero raises to 91.04 BB and is all-in, fold

    Spoiler:
    Hero wins 59.8 BB


    H3: crazy

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 211.84 BB
    SB: 100.4 BB
    BB: 100 BB
    UTG: 130.32 BB
    Hero (MP): 123.2 BB
    CO: 122.32 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q

    fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

    Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) 5 9 6
    BB checks, Hero bets 3.08 BB, BB raises to 9.24 BB, Hero calls 6.16 BB

    Turn: (24.88 BB, 2 players) 5
    BB bets 22.8 BB, Hero calls 22.8 BB

    River: (70.48 BB, 2 players) 9
    BB bets 64.96 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 64.96 BB

    Spoiler:
    BB shows J Q (Two Pair, Nines and Fives)
    (Pre 11%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
    Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
    (Pre 89%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
    Hero wins 192.4 BB


    H4: definitely regret this one

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 124.96 BB
    SB: 119.08 BB
    BB: 101.4 BB
    UTG: 100.4 BB
    Hero (MP): 145.24 BB
    CO: 100 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A K

    fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 11.2 BB, fold, Hero calls 8.2 BB

    Flop: (23.4 BB, 2 players) 6 2 9
    SB bets 11.2 BB, Hero calls 11.2 BB

    Turn: (45.8 BB, 2 players) 6
    SB bets 21.88 BB, Hero calls 21.88 BB

    River: (89.56 BB, 2 players) 7
    SB bets 74.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 74.8 BB

    Spoiler:
    SB shows 7 7 (Full House, Sevens full of Sixes)
    (Pre 55%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
    Hero shows A K (One Pair, Sixes)
    (Pre 45%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
    SB wins 231.16 BB


    H5: vaamoooooooooo

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 156.48 BB
    SB: 110.6 BB
    Hero (BB): 224.16 BB
    UTG: 153.36 BB
    MP: 201.52 BB
    CO: 105.64 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T 9

    fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

    Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 2 K 3
    SB bets 1.4 BB, Hero calls 1.4 BB

    Turn: (8.8 BB, 2 players) T
    SB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

    River: (36.8 BB, 2 players) A
    SB bets 29.2 BB, Hero raises to 205.76 BB and is all-in, fold

    Spoiler:
    Hero wins 90.92 BB


    H6:



    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): 208.04 BB
    SB: 118.96 BB
    BB: 118.64 BB
    UTG: 104.56 BB
    MP: 211.04 BB
    CO: 103.28 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5 5

    fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, fold

    Flop: (5.4 BB, 2 players) 2 7 T
    CO checks, Hero bets 2.6 BB, CO calls 2.6 BB

    Turn: (10.6 BB, 2 players) 3
    CO checks, Hero checks

    River: (10.6 BB, 2 players) 2
    CO checks, Hero bets 20 BB, CO calls 20 BB

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows 5 5 (Two Pair, Fives and Twos)
    (Pre 51%, Flop 44%, Turn 66%)
    CO mucks A Q (One Pair, Twos)
    (Pre 49%, Flop 56%, Turn 34%)
    Hero wins 48.32 BB


    H7: poker gods punishing his terrible x back lol

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 101.4 BB
    SB: 335.36 BB
    Hero (BB): 123.24 BB
    UTG: 114.6 BB
    MP: 112.2 BB
    CO: 335.72 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q 8

    fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

    Flop: (5.2 BB, 2 players) A 8 3
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    Turn: (5.2 BB, 2 players) Q
    Hero checks, BTN bets 3.68 BB, Hero raises to 12.92 BB, BTN calls 9.24 BB

    River: (31.04 BB, 2 players) 7
    Hero bets 37 BB, BTN calls 37 BB

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows Q 8 (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
    (Pre 33%, Flop 18%, Turn 82%)
    BTN mucks K A (One Pair, Aces)
    (Pre 67%, Flop 82%, Turn 18%)
    Hero wins 100.32 BB




    vamooooooooooooooooooo
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    06-26-2023 , 09:36 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZKesic
    You literally said that 25 zone is a nitfest... Nits are easy to beat. They are the worst type of a reg.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    You don't get it, the nit is losing more than the fish vs a strong player. I defend wider vs a nit tight range than I do vs a fish, because nits are predictable and fish are very random.

    A.
    So i guess nits are not easy to beat after all?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    . I used to think that nits were easy to beat, but it turns out that they mostly give up EV by existing, but it's hard to extract much value from them,
    Glad you finally agree with me.
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    06-27-2023 , 06:49 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
    So i guess nits are not easy to beat after all?



    Glad you finally agree with me.
    Much value*

    I'm choosing bodog mostly because these nits play so bad that it's insanely bad the exploits one has to make to beat them. It would turn my game into garbage very fast.

    It was interesting though, on higher stakes maybe it's a decent exploit, to play so weak that you have to force villain to play weaker to exploit you lol.

    Nits are easy to beat man, just see the last HH and they might give you a hint on how to beat them.
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    06-27-2023 , 06:30 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
    So i guess nits are not easy to beat after all?
    Nits are easy to beat, you just can't make a ton of money from them like you would from actual fish. I think that's what OP was getting at. All of your EV comes from spots where they overfold preflop/flop/turn vs you and when you overfold vs their bets and raises. They're generally not making a lot of huge theoretical mistakes that are massive punts in practice

    Playing in games full of nits are great so long as there are sufficient fish, so much easier to grind than when the regs are actually good. They give up a lot of EV by their incorrect assumption that you need to play 20 vpip or less at lower stakes, so you're in a position where you get to play more heads up pots vs the fish

    Granted it does suck playing a bit more in a nit-infested zoom pool when it's anonymous, since it's more difficult to keep track of the fish, but no it's not hard to beat nits lol
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    06-27-2023 , 06:39 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    H6:



    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): 208.04 BB
    SB: 118.96 BB
    BB: 118.64 BB
    UTG: 104.56 BB
    MP: 211.04 BB
    CO: 103.28 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5 5

    fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, fold

    Flop: (5.4 BB, 2 players) 2 7 T
    CO checks, Hero bets 2.6 BB, CO calls 2.6 BB

    Turn: (10.6 BB, 2 players) 3
    CO checks, Hero checks

    River: (10.6 BB, 2 players) 2
    CO checks, Hero bets 20 BB, CO calls 20 BB

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows 5 5 (Two Pair, Fives and Twos)
    (Pre 51%, Flop 44%, Turn 66%)
    CO mucks A Q (One Pair, Twos)
    (Pre 49%, Flop 56%, Turn 34%)
    Hero wins 48.32 BB
    I chuckled at that one lol, pretty sick when you think about how capped they are. V could even go 1/3 with 99/88 OTR

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    Love me some Sepultura, though I'm more of a Chaos AD person myself. You Brazillian OP?
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    06-28-2023 , 11:13 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by whitemares
    I chuckled at that one lol, pretty sick when you think about how capped they are. V could even go 1/3 with 99/88 OTR
    Yeah, they're so capped in there, I went a bit large because I thought he was one of the better regs and that he could hand read better than the pool lol. Obv got to be careful with those plays, vs me people love to trap.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by whitemares
    Love me some Sepultura, though I'm more of a Chaos AD person myself. You Brazillian OP?
    Yes, I'm from Brazil, I still have to listen to more sepultura, but I love this album, bloody roots, they made it with a drummer that knew a lot about tribal rhythms, so it turned into a very cool metal album with brazilian sounds in the drums. Another good brazillian metal band is angra, shaman is good too, check out fairy tale (from shaman), the vocalist is very good.


    Btw, I've logged on bodog and remembered that games don't run in the morning, so I will have to play on stars too lol. But taking a different approach, will play more aggro, looser, 2-tabling and focusing more on spots, fighting more for pots, I'm not sure if it's the highest EV, but it's educational, if I can manage to grind with the red line it might turn out to be something good in the future. It's more fun too.
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    07-02-2023 , 06:15 PM
    June results

    Terrible month, wasted so much time on stars, even burned out a little bit, EV in there is small, specially when I was making a lot of mistakes 4-tabling. Tbh it's so nitty that it annoys me, I love to snap call, but people bluff so little in there, specially in sick spots, so the name of the game is just overfolding pretty hard, making some sick bluffs from time to time and taking down small pots all day. It was fun, but meh, terrible place to move up, I hope on 100z it's decent to grind in there, can't see myself making the jump from 50 zone on bodog to 200 zone.

    Month



    + 10k hands breakeven on bodog, 25 zone and 50 zone, running badly on nl50, so annoying.

    Had some interesting events this month, recently I've started teaching one friend of mine on how to play, taught him a super nitty strat to beat nl2 on stars, he is very likely losing in there, but I see a lot of potential in him, he is a very good magic player and plays other games well too, really smart guy. He saw me play and was quite impressed, he said that my plays looked like magic, "how do you know he is never bluffing in there"? lol. At 25z on stars you don't need much to tell what someone has in a certain spot lol.

    Some hands

    H1: Villain tanked a lot before folding, imo he probably had a straight valuebetting where he shouldn't. My friend was watching this and I was explaining how this hand wasn't a good call vs this guy and that we had to bluff instead

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): 103.2 BB
    SB: 88.12 BB
    BB: 197.32 BB
    UTG: 72.68 BB
    MP: 339.28 BB
    CO: 100 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A 5

    fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

    Flop: (5.04 BB, 2 players) 6 5 5
    BB checks, Hero bets 1.2 BB, BB calls 1.2 BB

    Turn: (7.44 BB, 2 players) 9
    BB checks, Hero bets 5.36 BB, BB raises to 16 BB, Hero calls 10.64 BB

    River: (39.44 BB, 2 players) Q
    BB bets 29 BB, Hero raises to 83.68 BB and is all-in, fold

    Spoiler:
    Hero wins 93.04 BB



    H2: not a good runnout to ship IP, but vamooooo

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 102.64 BB
    SB: 112.6 BB
    BB: 75.28 BB
    UTG: 61.16 BB
    MP: 100 BB
    Hero (CO): 102.44 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q T

    fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

    Flop: (5.04 BB, 2 players) 2 J 4
    BB checks, Hero bets 1.2 BB, BB calls 1.2 BB

    Turn: (7.44 BB, 2 players) A
    BB checks, Hero bets 5.36 BB, BB calls 5.36 BB

    River: (18.16 BB, 2 players) 8
    BB checks, Hero bets 93.56 BB and is all-in, fold

    Spoiler:
    Hero wins 17.36 BB


    H3: extreme play vs extreme reg

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 177.56 BB
    SB: 121.2 BB
    Hero (BB): 118.08 BB
    UTG: 202.08 BB
    MP: 30.8 BB
    CO: 86.4 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4 Q

    fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB raises to 22 BB, Hero raises to 118.08 BB and is all-in, fold

    Spoiler:
    Hero wins 44 BB


    H4: same guy

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 33.24 BB
    SB: 120.12 BB
    Hero (BB): 100 BB
    UTG: 107.28 BB
    MP: 123.96 BB
    CO: 100 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A 2

    fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

    Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) Q A 2
    SB bets 1.88 BB, Hero calls 1.88 BB

    Turn: (9.76 BB, 2 players) T
    SB checks, Hero bets 2.32 BB, SB raises to 7.6 BB, Hero calls 5.28 BB

    River: (24.96 BB, 2 players) 2
    SB bets 12 BB, Hero raises to 47.88 BB, SB calls 35.88 BB

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows A 2 (Full House, Twos full of Aces)
    (Pre 37%, Flop 77%, Turn 86%)
    SB mucks 7 A (Two Pair, Aces and Twos)
    (Pre 63%, Flop 23%, Turn 14%)
    Hero wins 115.28 BB
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    07-02-2023 , 09:16 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    Yes, I'm from Brazil, I still have to listen to more sepultura, but I love this album, bloody roots, they made it with a drummer that knew a lot about tribal rhythms, so it turned into a very cool metal album with brazilian sounds in the drums. Another good brazillian metal band is angra, shaman is good too, check out fairy tale (from shaman), the vocalist is very good.
    That Shaman song is great man, actually kind of reminds me of the Skyrim song "The Dragonborn Comes." The melody in the second part of the song is similar enough that I have to imagine the Skyrim composer is a fan of this song lol


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    Btw, I've logged on bodog and remembered that games don't run in the morning, so I will have to play on stars too lol. But taking a different approach, will play more aggro, looser, 2-tabling and focusing more on spots, fighting more for pots, I'm not sure if it's the highest EV, but it's educational, if I can manage to grind with the red line it might turn out to be something good in the future. It's more fun too.
    I think 3 fast fold tables is the sweet spot, best mix between quality and volume imo. With 4 you have a real risk of facing difficult decision points simultaneously, but with 2 I think you can be waiting for the action to get to you too often. 2 still solid though if you want to really to be more analytical as you're playing to potentially discover some new strategies

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123

    H2: not a good runnout to ship IP, but vamooooo

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 102.64 BB
    SB: 112.6 BB
    BB: 75.28 BB
    UTG: 61.16 BB
    MP: 100 BB
    Hero (CO): 102.44 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q T

    fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

    Flop: (5.04 BB, 2 players) 2 J 4
    BB checks, Hero bets 1.2 BB, BB calls 1.2 BB

    Turn: (7.44 BB, 2 players) A
    BB checks, Hero bets 5.36 BB, BB calls 5.36 BB

    River: (18.16 BB, 2 players) 8
    BB checks, Hero bets 93.56 BB and is all-in, fold

    Spoiler:
    Hero wins 17.36 BB
    I prefer to overbet turn, I think it might be higher EV than this sizing - we have a nut advantage since BB 3bets AA/JJ/AK pure and AQ at high freq (and some AJ as well), sets pure raise flop and 53s will raise quite often, and population most likely overfolds to a significant degree the Jx and broadway gutshots they should be calling. If villain overfolds river too then we're just printing

    As played, I still think it's probably the best option; in solverland we block potential Ax/Jx calling combos. In practice, it's a bit worse from this perspective, because I think your average 25nl villain will be overfolding vs the shove. In that scenario we block their folding range, but we could very well be getting enough hands to fold that this is irrelevant. If villain were to start folding 2 pair then we could get pretty wild with bluffs
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    07-02-2023 , 10:16 PM
    Hope you're doing well rapidesh. You should hmu on discord sometime so we can catch up.
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    07-03-2023 , 07:04 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by whitemares
    That Shaman song is great man, actually kind of reminds me of the Skyrim song "The Dragonborn Comes." The melody in the second part of the song is similar enough that I have to imagine the Skyrim composer is a fan of this song lol
    I really like that song, the vocalist is one of the best ever, really hard to sing, I've tried to sing it, but can't reach the notes in the end. Yeah, it looks like the skyrim song, but probably a coincidence, shaman isn't much famous outside of Brazil, Germany, Japan and Finland (those are the countries where power metal is most famous). I think you will enjoy temple of hate from angra, kai hansen, the vocalist guitarrist of helloween sang in that song as a backing vocal, really good.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by whitemares
    I think 3 fast fold tables is the sweet spot, best mix between quality and volume imo. With 4 you have a real risk of facing difficult decision points simultaneously, but with 2 I think you can be waiting for the action to get to you too often. 2 still solid though if you want to really to be more analytical as you're playing to potentially discover some new strategies
    I haven't tried 3 tables, but it all depends on the person, tbh I'm quite slow these days, sure, I could play 4 tables really fast, but made soooo many mistakes, can't play like that ever. But the pool isn't very forgiving: on stars you're there fighting for pennies and if you misplay and make one "bad" call, you lose 2h of grind


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by whitemares
    I prefer to overbet turn, I think it might be higher EV than this sizing - we have a nut advantage since BB 3bets AA/JJ/AK pure and AQ at high freq (and some AJ as well), sets pure raise flop and 53s will raise quite often, and population most likely overfolds to a significant degree the Jx and broadway gutshots they should be calling. If villain overfolds river too then we're just printing

    As played, I still think it's probably the best option; in solverland we block potential Ax/Jx calling combos. In practice, it's a bit worse from this perspective, because I think your average 25nl villain will be overfolding vs the shove. In that scenario we block their folding range, but we could very well be getting enough hands to fold that this is irrelevant. If villain were to start folding 2 pair then we could get pretty wild with bluffs
    Yeah, overbetting turn it's a thing, but villain has more Ax than us, but what leads to overbets is polarization, not EV, so it's fine. Going to sim that one just to see that, yeah, our blockers are insane bad OTR lol, but people in there overfold so much that any2 is probably printing, just can't do that all day because some guys might see what we're doing.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brokenstars
    Hope you're doing well rapidesh. You should hmu on discord sometime so we can catch up.
    I'm doing really well despite being on nl25, just gotta focus more on volume.
    Yeah, sure, send me your discord on pm, really enjoy talking to you, maybe I could show you a stars session at 25z lol, the stats are beyond anything you can imagine lol, tons of people with 2-4% 3-bet lol
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    07-03-2023 , 12:09 PM
    You can guess my discord name, just send me a fr.
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    07-09-2023 , 07:57 PM
    Entitlement and having to grind microstakes

    I've realized recently that a lot of pain that I'm suffering comes from the fact that I'm entitled, I still think that I am a 200z reg playing microstakes, when as a matter of fact, I would get destroyed at 200z at the moment. It has been more than a year that I've faced someone remotelly competent and even then, I've battled so little that I have 0 clue on what regs these days are doing. Sure, my game is fine, I know a lot of pio and I know how to not butcher many hands, but my game is far from sharp, my solver work has been creative recently, but I don't have anywhere to test my usual strat, I'm just playing vs whales and bad nitfish regs, and this is making me a worse player.

    I believe I have 2 different ways to view the situation, one is good and the other one is bad. I think I have to understand that I'm not that good anymore and that my results are a proof of that, I have to build my confidence back from the bottom. That's the only way that I will be able to grind 25 zone, if I keep being entitled, I won't be able to put volume. Right now what I need the most is volume. Gotta be humble in these tough times.

    So I've decided to make a new routine, atm going to the gym and walking in the park every day 6x week, still going to see my friends a lot and will start to eat better, will avoid junk food too (and save a lot of money with that). Going to take 5-day breaks every 20 days, just testing this, I hope I can put more hours on average that way, was too stressed last month and took a 5-day break and it was very nice. Played a lot of diablo 2, finally started playing this game, everyone said to me it was very good and it really is, going to play until I finish the game with all characters, then will move to diablo 3 and then 4.
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    08-02-2023 , 08:00 AM
    July results

    Bad month, played very little volume, totally my fault, I can't get motivated playing these insanely easy games, I tilt when people donate to me and quit early, but volume is low mostly because I'm going out with my friends and playing diablo, watching movies, I don't know what I can do to at least play 4h/day. Atm playing 2h/day on average this month, this is so bad, it's so unprofessional, it seems that I just want to make the absolute minimum to pay the bills and stay in nl25 forever, so bad.

    I don't know what I can do to do better, even exercising was low this month, probably 3x/week on average. Atm I'm trying to force myself to play and go to the gym, reduced the time I play magic with my friends too, let's see if it works.




    Some hands:

    H1: mandatory bluff OTR on stars, ran a sim on this one, quite surprising: villain has to fold flop with JJ lol, actually range betting is a garbage strat in there, I was expecting that, pio is betting only 10% otf lol. Obv vs weak opposition that won't x/r a lot we can just range and print. JJ has to fold flop, turn and call river 1/3 of the time, I think villain was calling calling and folding lol, ez game haha vamooooo

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 125.08 BB
    SB: 188.32 BB
    Hero (BB): 196.04 BB
    UTG: 118.92 BB
    MP: 120.68 BB
    CO: 96.4 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A K

    fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, Hero raises to 25 BB, fold, SB calls 15 BB

    Flop: (53 BB, 2 players) Q 4 T
    SB checks, Hero bets 12.64 BB, SB calls 12.64 BB

    Turn: (78.28 BB, 2 players) 2
    SB checks, Hero bets 37.4 BB, SB calls 37.4 BB

    River: (153.08 BB, 2 players) 3
    SB checks, Hero bets 121 BB and is all-in, fold

    Spoiler:
    Hero wins 146.2 BB



    H2: Every decision I've made here was bold, really like this one

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): 166.36 BB
    SB: 133.16 BB
    BB: 50 BB
    UTG: 71.16 BB
    CO: 193.72 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9 9

    fold, CO raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 10 BB

    Flop: (31.4 BB, 2 players) 4 T K
    CO checks, Hero bets 9 BB, CO raises to 40.32 BB, Hero calls 31.32 BB

    Turn: (112.04 BB, 2 players) K
    CO checks, Hero checks

    River: (112.04 BB, 2 players) 8
    CO bets 138.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 111.04 BB and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    CO shows 6 2 (One Pair, Kings)
    (Pre 11%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
    Hero shows 9 9 (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
    (Pre 89%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)


    Hero wins 326.12 BB



    H3: easy fold, so easy to play vs these narrow pre-flop ranges that bad regs have when they cold call a 3-bet in that spot

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (CO): 111.4 BB
    BTN: 120.16 BB
    SB: 161.4 BB
    BB: 119.12 BB
    UTG: 59.48 BB
    MP: 222.24 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T A

    fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, SB calls 8.6 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

    Flop: (28 BB, 3 players) T 5 A
    SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

    Turn: (28 BB, 3 players) J
    SB bets 26.6 BB, fold, BTN raises to 111.16 BB and is all-in, SB calls 84.56 BB

    River: (250.32 BB, 2 players) K

    Spoiler:
    BTN shows K Q (Straight, Ace High)
    (Pre 58%, Flop 17%, Turn 81%)
    SB shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
    (Pre 42%, Flop 83%, Turn 19%)
    Hero shows T A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)

    BTN wins 242.32 BB


    H4: I see a lot of people getting shy and going small here, I think it's wrong, obv we have AK, it looks we have AK and everyone has AK here haha, but these guys can't fold 2p/FDs and can even do this haha. Obv vs a strong player it's garbage to size up in there, we probably have to check some 25% of AK in there I believe and bluff with small pps/turn AT into bluffs OTT.

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 35.8 BB
    SB: 119.24 BB
    Hero (BB): 165.96 BB
    UTG: 128.28 BB
    MP: 462.2 BB
    CO: 516.92 BB

    SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K A

    UTG raises to 2.48 BB, fold, CO calls 2.48 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 13.32 BB, fold, CO calls 10.84 BB

    Flop: (29.52 BB, 2 players) 8 J T
    Hero bets 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

    Turn: (47.52 BB, 2 players) Q
    Hero bets 45.16 BB, CO raises to 494.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 98.48 BB and is all-in

    River: (334.8 BB, 2 players) 8

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows K A (Straight, Ace High)
    (Pre 60%, Flop 39%, Turn 100%)
    CO shows 9 J (Straight, Queen High)
    (Pre 40%, Flop 61%, Turn 0%)


    Hero wins 326.8 BB
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    08-02-2023 , 10:55 AM
    think it's time to move on from poker buddy, even if you win a little it doesn't seem the path for you, otherwise you'd be way more motivated and already playing at the very least nl500
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    08-02-2023 , 11:11 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Xenoblade
    think it's time to move on from poker buddy, even if you win a little it doesn't seem the path for you, otherwise you'd be way more motivated and already playing at the very least nl500
    I'm not giving up, man. It's not that I have too many other better options. Sure, I have a good degree, but it's not valued here in brazil, we have more engineers than we need, so there's always someone willing to work for a smaller amount.

    The only other option for me is to study for a government job, but it's too boring, I've tried it before and it's miserable.

    I'm a very strong poker player, just going through a bad stretch, in the last 2 years my average winrate is probably around 6bb/100 and played mostly nl100, then nl25, then nl50.

    Just lacking motivation and I'm playing way lower than I can beat the games, just lacking the roll to play higher.
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    08-02-2023 , 11:27 AM
    WRs are proofed during the DownSwongs - keep plugging away mate Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!!
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    08-02-2023 , 11:46 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    I'm not giving up, man. It's not that I have too many other better options. Sure, I have a good degree, but it's not valued here in brazil, we have more engineers than we need, so there's always someone willing to work for a smaller amount.

    The only other option for me is to study for a government job, but it's too boring, I've tried it before and it's miserable.

    I'm a very strong poker player, just going through a bad stretch, in the last 2 years my average winrate is probably around 6bb/100 and played mostly nl100, then nl25, then nl50.

    Just lacking motivation and I'm playing way lower than I can beat the games, just lacking the roll to play higher.

    Wbat he's saying is that you already gave up. You have mentally checked out and barely played. If your win rate is actually 6bb, you should be out of the micros in a couple of months. You won't get there by putting in **** volume, but you know that already.
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    08-03-2023 , 01:53 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    I'm not giving up, man. It's not that I have too many other better options. Sure, I have a good degree, but it's not valued here in brazil, we have more engineers than we need, so there's always someone willing to work for a smaller amount.

    The only other option for me is to study for a government job, but it's too boring, I've tried it before and it's miserable.

    I'm a very strong poker player, just going through a bad stretch, in the last 2 years my average winrate is probably around 6bb/100 and played mostly nl100, then nl25, then nl50.

    Just lacking motivation and I'm playing way lower than I can beat the games, just lacking the roll to play higher.
    No country ever in history says 'we have more engineers than we need' except for Pol Pot.
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    08-03-2023 , 09:39 AM
    Rapi is a really unmotivated guy, and not only for poker it seems. If his parents (or anybody else) is helping him by providing additional $ and/or a place to live, so he won’t face the homeless/hunger risk, I hardly doubt he will ever change.
    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    08-13-2023 , 10:38 AM
    To the guys saying I'm not a strong player, just look at the HH here, if they look like a random nl25 reg, so many crazy plays that only someone who played higher could learn.

    But the rest of people were right, I'm very lazy and reached a critical point in my career, so here it is how it's going to be:

    Spoiler:
    In 2 years, august 13 2025 I will be playing high stakes!

    Already made my plan to move up to high stakes, right now it's the easiest part: just put insane volume with 0 study (need to get to 50z ASAP), then will focus on study for a long time and will battle on stars once a month to stay sharp. Starting the challenge with a $1k roll.

    Spoiler:
    Vamoooooooooooooooo


    Rapidesh123, Fighting Gold!!! Quote
    08-14-2023 , 12:22 AM
    Oh boy, you’re so insecure, my dear virtual poker friend Rapi. A really strong poker player wouldn’t ever post something like your first paragraph above, mainly because they don’t have to prove anything to anyone. They just know they are strong, period.

    Less talk and more doing, and who knows, maybe you might find the respect your ego craves, but not from the community. Self respect, which is the only respect that truly matters.
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