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05-08-2013 , 08:55 AM
Yeah I didn't think he'd flat all of those hands pre but struggled to work out where you got
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xela
~ 14 value combos.
from otherwise.
Maybe I'm wrong somewhere else, maybe he's even wider, idk. Anyway yeah probably best to not include too much strat. Gl.
05-08-2013 , 10:17 AM
Amazing progress, glgl :}
05-08-2013 , 06:03 PM
op currently to direct left of huge donk at 50/100! there will be blood.
05-08-2013 , 07:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by savorxoxo
op currently to direct left of huge donk at 50/100! there will be blood.
Ha, ran completely card dead at that table, was 15/8 at some point, lol. But then won a large pot when table broke so did well from that table, though only from regs not from the fish.

Anyway, ended day up $11.3k which is really nice after yesterday. Actually had 5 figure days every day this month, though unfortunately one the wrong way
05-10-2013 , 04:11 PM
I have been slowly grinding it back after the -$21k day. Probably not playing my A+ game but been playing well enough. Still scared money at 10k but slowly getting there. Here is the graph so far, will look for a few cool hands too.

05-10-2013 , 04:18 PM
[x] very impressive stuff
05-10-2013 , 04:25 PM
So here are few random hands from the last couple of days, all vs regs.

    Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377551

    SB: $1,183.50 (118.4 bb)
    Hero (BB): $1,023.50 (102.4 bb)
    CO: $2,017 (201.7 bb)
    BTN: $1,013.50 (101.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 9
    CO folds, BTN raises to $20, SB folds, Hero calls $10

    Flop: ($45) 3 6 T (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $33.45, Hero raises to $93.06, BTN calls $59.61

    Turn: ($231.12) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $245.53, BTN calls $245.53

    River: ($722.18) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $664.91 and is all-in, BTN calls $654.91 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: $2,032 pot ($1.50 rake)
    Final Board: 3 6 T Q 7
    Hero showed 8 9 and won $2,030.50 ($1,017 net)
    BTN showed T T and lost (-$1,013.50 net)



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      Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377541

      CO: $1,000 (100 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $1,308.67 (130.9 bb)
      SB: $1,760.58 (176.1 bb)
      BB: $1,497 (149.7 bb)
      UTG: $1,745.70 (174.6 bb)
      MP: $1,674.31 (167.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 K
      3 folds, Hero raises to $20, SB calls $15, BB calls $10

      Flop: ($60) J 5 9 (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($60) K (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $46.30, SB folds, BB raises to $180, Hero calls $133.70

      River: ($420) 3 (2 players)
      BB bets $700, Hero calls $700

      Spoiler:
      Results: $1,820 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: J 5 9 K 3
      Hero mucked 5 K and lost (-$900 net)
      BB showed T Q and won $1,817 ($917 net)



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        Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377531

        CO: $1,183.50 (118.4 bb)
        Hero (BTN): $1,359.82 (136 bb)
        SB: $1,000 (100 bb)
        BB: $1,000 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
        CO folds, Hero raises to $20, SB raises to $90, BB folds, Hero calls $70

        Flop: ($190) 4 2 K (2 players)
        SB bets $100, Hero calls $100

        Turn: ($390) 6 (2 players)
        SB bets $250, Hero calls $250

        River: ($890) 8 (2 players)
        SB bets $560 and is all-in, Hero calls $560

        Spoiler:
        Results: $2,010 pot ($1.50 rake)
        Final Board: 4 2 K 6 8
        Hero showed A A and lost (-$1,000 net)
        SB showed K K and won $2,008.50 ($1,008.50 net)



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          Poker Stars, $25/$50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377521

          Hero (BTN): $4,850 (97 bb)
          SB: $5,000 (100 bb)
          BB: $6,894 (137.9 bb)
          UTG: $5,075 (101.5 bb)
          MP: $5,149.50 (103 bb)
          CO: $5,082 (101.6 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with T J
          3 folds, Hero raises to $100, SB folds, BB raises to $350, Hero calls $250

          Flop: ($725) Q 3 5 (2 players)
          BB checks, Hero checks

          Turn: ($725) T (2 players)
          BB bets $550, Hero calls $550

          River: ($1,825) 9 (2 players)
          BB bets $1,375, Hero calls $1,375

          Spoiler:
          Results: $4,575 pot ($3 rake)
          Final Board: Q 3 5 T 9
          Hero showed T J and won $4,572 ($2,297 net)
          BB showed 4 7 and lost (-$2,275 net)



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            Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377571

            SB: $2,012.83 (335.5 bb)
            Hero (BB): $681.32 (113.6 bb)
            UTG: $600 (100 bb)
            MP: $600 (100 bb)
            CO: $634.50 (105.8 bb)
            BTN: $485.03 (80.8 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with K T
            4 folds, SB raises to $15, Hero calls $9

            Flop: ($30) 3 5 T (2 players)
            SB bets $18, Hero calls $18

            Turn: ($66) K (2 players)
            SB bets $45, Hero calls $45

            River: ($156) 5 (2 players)
            SB bets $120, Hero raises to $603.32 and is all-in, SB calls $483.32

            Spoiler:
            Results: $1,362.64 pot ($2.80 rake)
            Final Board: 3 5 T K 5
            SB showed Q Q and lost (-$681.32 net)
            Hero showed K T and won $1,359.84 ($678.52 net)



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              Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377591

              UTG: $1,356 (135.6 bb)
              MP: $888 (88.8 bb)
              CO: $1,000 (100 bb)
              Hero (BTN): $1,572.38 (157.2 bb)
              SB: $1,000 (100 bb)
              BB: $1,000 (100 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 4
              3 folds, Hero raises to $20, SB folds, BB raises to $76, Hero calls $56

              Flop: ($157) 3 6 Q (2 players)
              BB bets $100, Hero calls $100

              Turn: ($357) T (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $176.16, BB calls $176.16

              River: ($709.32) K (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $1,220.22 and is all-in, BB folds

              Spoiler:
              Results: $709.32 pot ($3 rake)
              Final Board: 3 6 Q T K
              Hero mucked 5 4 and won $706.32 ($354.16 net)
              BB mucked and lost (-$352.16 net)



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                Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377561

                BTN: $1,066.65 (106.7 bb)
                SB: $1,042 (104.2 bb)
                BB: $815 (81.5 bb)
                Hero (UTG): $1,025 (102.5 bb)
                MP: $1,015 (101.5 bb)
                CO: $420.67 (42.1 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
                Hero raises to $25, MP calls $25, CO folds, BTN calls $25, SB folds, BB calls $15

                Flop: ($105) 7 T K (4 players)
                BB checks, Hero bets $68.34, MP calls $68.34, BTN folds, BB calls $68.34

                Turn: ($310.02) 5 (3 players)
                BB checks, Hero bets $248.07, MP calls $248.07, BB folds

                River: ($806.16) 5 (2 players)
                Hero checks, MP bets $673.59 and is all-in, Hero calls $673.59

                Spoiler:
                Results: $2,153.34 pot ($3 rake)
                Final Board: 7 T K 5 5
                Hero showed K K and won $2,150.34 ($1,135.34 net)
                MP showed A A and lost (-$1,015 net)



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                  Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377581

                  SB: $827.75 (82.8 bb)
                  BB: $1,989.66 (199 bb)
                  UTG: $1,031.94 (103.2 bb)
                  MP: $1,177.15 (117.7 bb)
                  CO: $1,007.75 (100.8 bb)
                  Hero (BTN): $1,000 (100 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 6
                  UTG raises to $25, 2 folds, Hero calls $25, 2 folds

                  Flop: ($65) 6 3 9 (2 players)
                  UTG bets $40.16, Hero calls $40.16

                  Turn: ($145.32) 9 (2 players)
                  UTG bets $114.45, Hero calls $114.45

                  River: ($374.22) 7 (2 players)
                  UTG bets $297.57, Hero raises to $820.39 and is all-in, UTG folds

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $969.36 pot ($2.25 rake)
                  Final Board: 6 3 9 9 7
                  UTG mucked and lost (-$477.18 net)
                  Hero mucked 8 6 and won $967.11 ($489.93 net)



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                    Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377611

                    CO: $666.40 (111.1 bb)
                    BTN: $263.89 (44 bb)
                    Hero (SB): $600 (100 bb)
                    BB: $600 (100 bb)
                    UTG: $779.95 (130 bb)
                    MP: $621 (103.5 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
                    4 folds, Hero raises to $15, BB calls $9

                    Flop: ($30) 6 J 2 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $19.20, BB calls $19.20

                    Turn: ($68.40) 7 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $53, BB calls $53

                    River: ($174.40) T (2 players)
                    Hero bets $138.65, BB raises to $512.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $374.15 and is all-in

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $1,200 pot ($2.80 rake)
                    Final Board: 6 J 2 7 T
                    Hero showed A J and won $1,197.20 ($597.20 net)
                    BB showed Q 8 and lost (-$600 net)



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                      Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17377631

                      UTG: $1,366.32 (227.7 bb)
                      MP: $312.70 (52.1 bb)
                      CO: $624 (104 bb)
                      BTN: $696.20 (116 bb)
                      Hero (SB): $600 (100 bb)
                      BB: $600 (100 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 6
                      4 folds, Hero raises to $15, BB raises to $48, Hero calls $33

                      Flop: ($96) 5 9 8 (2 players)
                      Hero checks, BB checks

                      Turn: ($96) A (2 players)
                      Hero checks, BB bets $66, Hero calls $66

                      River: ($228) T (2 players)
                      Hero checks, BB bets $132, Hero raises to $486 and is all-in, BB calls $354 and is all-in

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $1,200 pot ($2.80 rake)
                      Final Board: 5 9 8 A T
                      Hero showed 7 6 and won $1,197.20 ($597.20 net)
                      BB showed A K and lost (-$600 net)



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                      Last edited by Xela; 05-10-2013 at 04:32 PM.
                      05-10-2013 , 04:25 PM
                      Sick 7k hand break-even stretch at the end mate /troll
                      05-10-2013 , 04:41 PM
                      believe it or not mike but that actually is his longest break-even stretch ever
                      05-10-2013 , 05:29 PM
                      awesome hands, keep em coming!
                      05-11-2013 , 03:52 AM
                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by Slugant
                      believe it or not mike but that actually is his longest break-even stretch ever
                      Like forever ever?

                      Nice hands too, I approve
                      05-11-2013 , 04:38 AM
                      Is it standard for u to defend vs SB/BB 3b w/45s (BTN/CO), or did u have a good read on him?

                      TJhh hand; Do u know why villain didnt cbet on that board with his str8 draw and BDFD ?
                      Or is he checking OTF because it hit ur 3bet calling range so good?

                      GL!
                      05-11-2013 , 06:37 AM
                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by PontyFex
                      Is it standard for u to defend vs SB/BB 3b w/45s (BTN/CO), or did u have a good read on him?
                      It all depends on how wide you open and how wide villain's range is. If you have a postflop edge, then you can defend even wider.

                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by PontyFex
                      TJhh hand; Do u know why villain didnt cbet on that board with his str8 draw and BDFD ?
                      Or is he checking OTF because it hit ur 3bet calling range so good?
                      I can only assume that he was planning to c/r flop or c/c flop & CRAI turn/lead river if turn checked through.
                      05-12-2013 , 03:25 PM
                      I have to keep changing my filters so I can rail Xela's new highest game

                      WP
                      05-12-2013 , 03:48 PM
                      89o hand is it not a bit hard to balance when your value range is going to be pretty narrow or does the sheer volume of air in villains range make this a non-issue?
                      05-12-2013 , 04:09 PM
                      can you talk a little bit about how seating scripts make moving up easier?
                      05-12-2013 , 04:53 PM
                      you make it look so easy.
                      05-12-2013 , 05:08 PM
                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by Deco354
                      89o hand is it not a bit hard to balance when your value range is going to be pretty narrow or does the sheer volume of air in villains range make this a non-issue?
                      I have a decent value range of sets, 2 pair (T6s) and TPGK. Plus the reason why I overbet turn is because I know I rep somewhat thin so it is a cool levelling spot (well obv not when he has a set).

                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by Two SHAE
                      can you talk a little bit about how seating scripts make moving up easier?
                      Seating scripts are really annoying and I wish it was possible to get a seat without either starting a table (difficult to do if you already playing a lot of tables) or using a script (possibly up to 50% of high stakes regs use one at the moment). I have always supported the idea that Stars should ban them and will continue to do so because they are bad for the games for obvious reasons.

                      Last edited by Xela; 05-12-2013 at 05:28 PM.
                      05-12-2013 , 05:17 PM
                      Had some really good 10k action earlier on today when a fish sat on 3 tables. Also the line-up was semi-soft (meaning soft for 10k, tough for 1k). Will post all pots where I lost or won more than 25bb in ascending order.

                      Vs fish in SB (this was his last hand he played):

                        Poker Stars, $50/$100 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17391811

                        CO: $10,545 (105.5 bb)
                        BTN: $9,905.26 (99.1 bb)
                        SB: $12,741.11 (127.4 bb)
                        Hero (BB): $28,373.65 (283.7 bb)
                        UTG: $10,000 (100 bb)
                        MP: $28,552.84 (285.5 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is BB with A T
                        UTG raises to $300, MP calls $300, 2 folds, SB calls $250, Hero raises to $1,400, 2 folds, SB calls $1,100

                        Flop: ($3,400) K 7 3 (2 players)
                        SB checks, Hero bets $1,599.99, SB calls $1,599.99

                        Turn: ($6,599.98) 4 (2 players)
                        SB checks, Hero checks

                        River: ($6,599.98) 4 (2 players)
                        SB checks, Hero checks

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $6,599.98 pot ($5 rake)
                        Final Board: K 7 3 4 4
                        SB showed J K and won $6,594.98 ($3,594.99 net)
                        Hero mucked A T and lost (-$2,999.99 net)



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                        vs some unknown, could have been a rather tight recreational player:

                          Poker Stars, $50/$100 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17391821

                          MP: $22,762.04 (227.6 bb)
                          CO: $3,144.06 (31.4 bb)
                          BTN: $4,497.84 (45 bb)
                          Hero (SB): $23,894.59 (238.9 bb)
                          BB: $10,895 (109 bb)
                          UTG: $13,080 (130.8 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
                          2 folds, CO raises to $200, BTN folds, Hero raises to $600, BB folds, CO raises to $3,144.06 and is all-in, Hero calls $2,544.06

                          Flop: ($6,388.12) A Q 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                          Turn: ($6,388.12) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                          River: ($6,388.12) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $6,388.12 pot ($5 rake)
                          Final Board: A Q 9 Q K
                          CO showed T T and lost (-$3,144.06 net)
                          Hero showed A A and won $6,383.12 ($3,239.06 net)



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                          vs the (proper) fish:

                            Poker Stars, $50/$100 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17391831

                            SB: $14,952.04 (149.5 bb)
                            BB: $4,245 (42.5 bb)
                            MP: $15,634.99 (156.3 bb)
                            Hero (CO): $11,245 (112.5 bb)
                            BTN: $11,092 (110.9 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is CO with 3 A
                            MP raises to $300, Hero calls $300, 3 folds

                            Flop: ($750) T K J (2 players)
                            MP bets $400, Hero raises to $1,099, MP calls $699

                            Turn: ($2,948) 5 (2 players)
                            MP checks, Hero checks

                            River: ($2,948) Q (2 players)
                            MP bets $2,000, Hero calls $2,000

                            Spoiler:
                            Results: $6,948 pot ($5 rake)
                            Final Board: T K J 5 Q
                            MP showed 7 6 and won $6,943 ($3,544 net)
                            Hero mucked 3 A and lost (-$3,399 net)



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                            vs reg:

                              Poker Stars, $50/$100, $20 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17391841

                              BB: $10,000 (100 bb)
                              MP: $20,496 (205 bb)
                              CO: $24,258.73 (242.6 bb)
                              Hero (BTN): $10,700.27 (107 bb)
                              SB: $9,780 (97.8 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is BTN with T 8
                              2 folds, Hero raises to $200, SB folds, BB calls $100

                              Flop: ($550) 9 6 3 (2 players)
                              BB checks, Hero bets $365.15, BB raises to $1,100, Hero raises to $2,000, BB calls $900

                              Turn: ($4,550) 4 (2 players)
                              BB checks, Hero checks

                              River: ($4,550) 4 (2 players)
                              BB checks, Hero bets $1,450, BB calls $1,450

                              Spoiler:
                              Results: $7,450 pot ($5 rake)
                              Final Board: 9 6 3 4 4
                              BB showed 6 8 and won $7,445 ($3,775 net)
                              Hero showed T 8 and lost (-$3,670 net)



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                              vs fish:

                                Poker Stars, $50/$100, $20 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17391851

                                BTN: $10,665 (106.7 bb)
                                SB: $13,445 (134.5 bb)
                                BB: $35,346 (353.5 bb)
                                UTG: $26,355 (263.6 bb)
                                Hero (MP): $11,045 (110.5 bb)
                                CO: $13,284.47 (132.8 bb)

                                Preflop: Hero is MP with A T
                                UTG folds, Hero raises to $250, 3 folds, BB calls $150

                                Flop: ($670) 7 6 T (2 players)
                                BB checks, Hero bets $500, BB calls $500

                                Turn: ($1,670) A (2 players)
                                BB checks, Hero bets $1,500, BB raises to $4,500, Hero calls $3,000

                                River: ($10,670) 3 (2 players)
                                BB bets $4,100, Hero calls $4,100

                                Spoiler:
                                Results: $18,870 pot ($5 rake)
                                Final Board: 7 6 T A 3
                                BB showed 7 A and lost (-$9,370 net)
                                Hero showed A T and won $18,865 ($9,495 net)



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                                This is the first time I won a stack at 10k and also the biggest pot I ever won (vs fish):

                                  Poker Stars, $50/$100 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17391861

                                  UTG: $15,722.04 (157.2 bb)
                                  MP: $3,745 (37.5 bb)
                                  CO: $18,811.49 (188.1 bb)
                                  Hero (BTN): $10,195 (102 bb)
                                  SB: $10,329.50 (103.3 bb)
                                  BB: $10,045 (100.5 bb)

                                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
                                  2 folds, CO raises to $300, Hero raises to $900, 2 folds, CO calls $600

                                  Flop: ($1,950) A 9 K (2 players)
                                  CO checks, Hero bets $1,300, CO calls $1,300

                                  Turn: ($4,550) 2 (2 players)
                                  CO checks, Hero bets $3,500, CO raises to $16,611.49 and is all-in, Hero calls $4,495 and is all-in

                                  River: ($20,540) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                                  Spoiler:
                                  Results: $20,540 pot ($5 rake)
                                  Final Board: A 9 K 2 7
                                  CO showed A Q and lost (-$10,195.00 net)
                                  Hero showed K K and won $20,535 ($10,340 net)



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                                  05-12-2013 , 05:24 PM
                                  Obviously that KK is a fistpump anyway but it's gotta be extra sweet to see that you have all the money locked up when you get it in at 10k.
                                  05-12-2013 , 05:38 PM
                                  Just realised that I had my best day every today @ $19.5k, though funny enough my winrate is the worst of all the top days I had. Also a tiny bit annoyed as was up to $25k but after a couple of hours of play and then just proceeded to lose some of it. Anyway, maybe a good point to update my progress for the year.



                                  05-12-2013 , 05:55 PM
                                  Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnn
                                  05-12-2013 , 05:57 PM
                                  Quote:
                                  Originally Posted by Xela
                                  I have a decent value range of sets, 2 pair (T6s) and TPGK. Plus the reason why I overbet turn is because I know I rep somewhat thin so it is a cool levelling spot (well obv not when he has a set).



                                  Seating scripts are really annoying and I wish it was possible to get a seat without either starting a table (difficult to do if you already playing a lot of tables) or using a script (possibly up to 50% of high stakes regs use one at the moment). I have always supported the idea that Stars should ban them and will continue to do so because they are bad for the games for obvious reasons.
                                  Okay, so how much will you sell it to me for?

                                  You know you guys screwed me right?

                                  Last edited by Two SHAE; 05-12-2013 at 06:03 PM.
                                  05-12-2013 , 06:10 PM
                                  Quote:
                                  Originally Posted by Two SHAE
                                  Okay, so how much will you sell it to me for?

                                  You know you guys screwed me right?
                                  I am not a script vendor and in fact did not sell any script to anyone (simply because I cannot as I have no licence to sell, nor did I ever have any). Did not know whether you want/wanted to buy a script and certainly have not interfered with your desires if you had any. So have no clue who the "guys" who screwed you are or what you are trying to achieve with your last 2 posts and tbh I don't care. I know you feel very strongly about seating scripts (and I have even signed your petition against them) but my thread is the wrong place to push your agenda so please refrain from posting about that anymore in here.

                                  Last edited by Xela; 05-12-2013 at 06:27 PM.
                                  05-12-2013 , 06:42 PM
                                  If you were truly against it, you could send the software and license key to stars, and ask for them to take steps to make it not work.


                                  er. Sorry for piling on with the derail, I wont post more.

                                        
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