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10-08-2014 , 08:59 PM
Hi all,

Starting this thread to hopefully motivate myself to give my "last shot" the dedication it deserves.

I read 2+2 everyday but post sporadically so not expecting anyone to know who I am.

I can sum myself up pretty quickly.
Personally; Irish (obv), just hit the third floor age wise, have no idea what to do with my life.. haha
Poker; Micro/low stakes SNG/MTT monkey tilt extraordinaire, barely above BE lifetime, plays bad runs worse

So, while I'm figuring out what to do with myself IRL, either back to college or find a job I don't despise, I decided to grind.

I started this a few weeks back with the $150~ I had sitting in my account grinding MTTSNG's and MTT's at an ABI of 60c or so.
Few K games later and I have just under $1.5k as a roll



Plan now is to play a decent schedule of MTT's ranging from $1-$4 while mixing in some $2.50/$4.50 180's. Don't think there's any other MTTSNG's worth playing at these levels, could be wrong though?

There are a few other things I want to keep track of here.

Study, I suck at it. Have never found the best way to go about it and for me that lack of structure means I simply don't do it.
Tilt, haven't had to deal with it that much over the last while but it's still an issue. Not sure how to keep track of it or if it'll even be of benefit to do so but can't hurt.

If I stick with updating this I’ll likely add some other goals, health or quitting smoking etc etc, for now I’ll leave it at playing well and improving

GL to all fellow grinders!

Irish savers (I gave up looking after two):

Spoiler:






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10-08-2014 , 10:47 PM
Quick update on today,

Got 18th in a $4 PKO, JJ < AQ twice within a few hands.

Not much in the way of volume for my first session of "higher" buyins but I shipped a 180 and had that close call in the PKO so I'm happy.

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10-09-2014 , 06:06 PM
So didn't get to play today. Zero sleep last night and no chance to catch up during the day

Hopefully I'll get back to a routine tomorrow
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10-09-2014 , 07:10 PM
I remember you posting in the ROI thread in MTTSNG and worrying about a downswing.

Really glad things seem to be turning around for you.

Will definitely follow your thread as I will need to motivate myself

Good Luck
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10-09-2014 , 07:57 PM
Cheers mate, yeah seems like I'm starting to run a bit purer overall.

You playing the same games btw?
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10-10-2014 , 08:21 PM
Looks like I forgot to run pure today, pretty bad session all in all. Not much I can do but keep grinding

Will try and review a few games to see if I let the run bad get to me, probably did a little if I'm fair.

Early session tomorrow, a friend's is having his 30th so will be consuming copious amount of alcohol in the evening



Not that these justify anything, but hard to win $$ when you can't win chips

cEV today:


Mid/Late BB won:
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10-11-2014 , 01:05 PM
Short session of $2's, ran great again, time to get drunk

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10-15-2014 , 02:10 PM
Apart from Sunday, I didn't play due to being hungover as f*&^, I've played every day. To say it's been a nightmare is an understatement.

Might be able to bring myself to post a graph later but for now I can't even look at it, picture a very steep cliff.

Going to drop back down for a while, not that I think I'm playing bad but my confidence is shot.
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10-21-2014 , 03:55 PM
Been playing lower stakes again over the last few days. Nothing exciting but gradually starting to rebuild the roll.

Will post a overall graph soon. Hoping to get out of the lower stakes games ASAP.

GL
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10-21-2014 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by huddlehound1
I remember you posting in the ROI thread in MTTSNG and worrying about a downswing.

Really glad things seem to be turning around for you.

Will definitely follow your thread as I will need to motivate myself

Good Luck
Yeah when I can be arsed I play MTTSNG's up to $2.50.

Sadly, more often than not I cant be arsed so the BR is going nowhere fast
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10-21-2014 , 07:14 PM
Gl Dublin, will follow your progress
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10-22-2014 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by huddlehound1
Yeah when I can be arsed I play MTTSNG's up to $2.50.

Sadly, more often than not I cant be arsed so the BR is going nowhere fast
Aye I get that too, it's tough but i normally just force myself to even put in a small set of games.

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Originally Posted by Gut_shot
Gl Dublin, will follow your progress
Cheers mate, will try keep results etc more up to date.

Update:

K, just a quick update. As I said above I'm grinding out of the DS back at the <$1 ABI games. Things are going reasonably well now, going to be a long road back to where I was though.

I'm thinking of just skipping the $2 180's when I decide to move up again, idk what it is but I run so absurdly bad when I shot take them. I'm no MTT/MTTsng beast by any means but I know enough to know I should beat them. Anyway, we'll see how it goes once I run it back up a little

Just posted a hand here,would appreciate any input.

Overall graph:

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10-23-2014 , 02:53 PM
Pretty frustrating day, was planning on playing for a few more hours but quit loading when a deep-ish run ended badly.
Wouldn't say I was tilted but for sure a little P'd off. Compared to a while back where my mouse would have hit the wall at high velocity I'm doing a bit better handling it.

Tough/slow grind back at these levels:

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10-24-2014 , 03:03 PM
As stated in the OP, played bad ran worse today. Although it's probably the other way round.

Lucky to get out of that session in the green. Forget about B or C game i was somewhere between T and Z.

Getting pretty bored in these games, likely a contributing factor to my bad play.

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10-25-2014 , 03:08 PM
Short session today, might head for a pint so don't wanna be stuck one tabling some reg speed MTT or whatever.

Didn't play great again, made two terrible call offs in the last two tables of two seperate $1 180's.

These brain farts cost a lot, need to figure out how to stop doing it.

Anyway, all i can do is try play better in future.

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10-26-2014 , 10:54 AM
Not sure whether I'll get any games in today, currently watching the spurs game and then the big match is on at 4.

Still haven't seen the UFC from last night either, need to catch up before I see a spoiler somewhere.

Been thinking about my grind. Obv the stakes I'm playing now are not a long term goal and are not exactly riveting from a thread content point of view.
BR is at 1.2K so I'm rolled for higher games. Just don't know if my game is good enough or my mindset strong enough yet.
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10-26-2014 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DublinMeUp
Not sure whether I'll get any games in today, currently watching the spurs game and then the big match is on at 4.

Still haven't seen the UFC from last night either, need to catch up before I see a spoiler somewhere.

Been thinking about my grind. Obv the stakes I'm playing now are not a long term goal and are not exactly riveting from a thread content point of view.
BR is at 1.2K so I'm rolled for higher games. Just don't know if my game is good enough or my mindset strong enough yet.
Dont know if you do it already it but I would start introducing the 4.50 180 mans.

Even if you are playing them on a 1:1 basis with the $1 180's it is still over 400 BI's for a $2.75 avg BI
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10-26-2014 , 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DublinMeUp
Not sure whether I'll get any games in today, currently watching the spurs game and then the big match is on at 4.

Still haven't seen the UFC from last night either, need to catch up before I see a spoiler somewhere.

Been thinking about my grind. Obv the stakes I'm playing now are not a long term goal and are not exactly riveting from a thread content point of view.
BR is at 1.2K so I'm rolled for higher games. Just don't know if my game is good enough or my mindset strong enough yet.
You sound like you are on a good path. Questioning yourself first then giving it a shot or not is the right thing to do.
Looking at your age (30s) I can assume that you will be very cautious about your bankroll and that you aim to play overrolled. By overrolled I am referring to 300bis in microstakes. No matter what you read online about bankroll management, in your case this is never a mistake.

Best of luck.
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10-26-2014 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by huddlehound1
Dont know if you do it already it but I would start introducing the 4.50 180 mans.

Even if you are playing them on a 1:1 basis with the $1 180's it is still over 400 BI's for a $2.75 avg BI
Aye, I was mixing them in on my failed shot (massive cliff on the graph), defo will be playing them again. It would seriously tilt me to spew on FT's or close to em in those though

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Originally Posted by Righteous
You sound like you are on a good path. Questioning yourself first then giving it a shot or not is the right thing to do.
Looking at your age (30s) I can assume that you will be very cautious about your bankroll and that you aim to play overrolled. By overrolled I am referring to 300bis in microstakes. No matter what you read online about bankroll management, in your case this is never a mistake.

Best of luck.
Cheers for the support and advice, you kind of hit the nail on the head in that I am very very cautious with my roll. Not because of my age but because the thread title is for real.. if i busto this roll poker will become something i used to play back when.
There is also some comfort in only losing 1-5% of my roll on my worst days, compared to a bad day being 20%+ if i was more aggressive with it. For someone with a history of tilt this is kind of a no brainer.
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Anyway, decided to play a session after the united match. Think I played very well but just couldn't get anything going/hands to hold up. Had a slight saver at the end but still lost 16 cheeseburgers.

Can't decide if the following hand is spew or not. $1 180 mid/late stages.

Villain was a loose passive rec, my read on these types of players (in these games) is they will either donk or CR flop if they catch anything or even with like PP's that whiff. Particularly on paired boards.
So, the check call was for sure a draw, and the only draw present is a FD. I decided to try barrel him off it.
Same logic applies to the turn in that if he has Jx spades he just gets it in so i know he didn't really improve.

Hate my sizing, tbh my cbet was a small misclick but still. Would have loved a bigger shove on river.

Probably spewy in that "you don't bluff fish", but i had his range nailed and thought it was a decent spot.

    Poker Stars, $0.91 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32096942

    Hero (MP3): 3,490 (23.3 bb)
    CO: 3,091 (20.6 bb)
    BTN: 2,762 (18.4 bb)
    SB: 6,832 (45.5 bb)
    BB: 1,765 (11.8 bb)
    UTG+2: 4,910 (32.7 bb)
    MP1: 3,868 (25.8 bb)
    MP2: 4,801 (32 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A 3
    3 folds, Hero raises to 304, 2 folds, SB calls 229, BB folds

    Flop: (758) 4 T 4 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 525, SB calls 525

    Turn: (1,808) J (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 900, SB calls 900

    River: (3,608) 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 1,761 and is all-in, SB calls 1,761

    Spoiler:
    Results: 7,130 pot
    Final Board: 4 T 4 J 9
    Hero showed A 3 and lost (-3,490 net)
    SB showed 8 9 and won 7,130 (3,640 net)



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    10-26-2014 , 08:22 PM
    I like the fact you went with your read albeit the read is pretty generalised. Would make a bit more sense if it was specific to this player

    I agree the cbet is a little big. 400 on the flop, 700-800 on the turn sets you up for a nice river shove.

    I must be honest I dont think I am calling the river. The 3 barrel looks super strong to me

    Nice play
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    10-26-2014 , 08:35 PM
    Yeah I like that cbet size too, clicked the slider too high. Something tells me it doesn't matter too much.. No difference in a half pot and pot sized river shove from villains perspective imo.

    The only individual reads I have are on regs. I tend to (have to) use generalised tendencies for anyone else cause I don't see them play hands unless it's versus me.

    He tank called river, I doubt he knows that he shouldn't call there. Like, he's more thinking "I have a pair therefore I call"
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    10-29-2014 , 10:25 PM
    So, tried another shot.. same result.

    Pretty tough getting knocked back every time I move up. Have an emergency dentist appointment tomorrow so will use that as a "day off" and try to decide what to do.

    Whatever I decide it will probably involve more of this

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    10-29-2014 , 10:26 PM
    what games is it you are shot taking with?

    4.50 180's?
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    10-29-2014 , 10:41 PM
    Pretty much, also MTTs under $5 and the dreaded $2,50 180's :P
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    10-30-2014 , 04:47 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by huddlehound1
    I like the fact you went with your read albeit the read is pretty generalised. Would make a bit more sense if it was specific to this player

    I agree the cbet is a little big. 400 on the flop, 700-800 on the turn sets you up for a nice river shove.

    I must be honest I dont think I am calling the river. The 3 barrel looks super strong to me

    Nice play
    It is a generalised read, if you're going with it you might as well shove the turn. It's an overbet on a paired board so it's terrible if he still calls with a flush draw. Betting 400 on flop and 7-800 on turn is horrible advice IMO, since you're not barreling him off anything, you're just letting him see the river cheaper and then if he hits he's calling anyway. Even the river shove would be about 2/3 pot. Why not shut him out with a turn shove? And if you put him on a flush draw (and he doesn't have the 9), then your A3 is winning the vast majority of the time anyway... confusing...
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