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11-29-2023 , 04:49 AM
160 std dev is probably a reasonable # if all your hands were PLO4 and 6-handed, but as you introduce other PLO variants and especially lots of 2-4 handed play, then 200+ becomes more accurate.

I'd guess a lot of PLO pros have experienced a couple runs that they don't think are mathematically fair as edges dwindle.

I had been a consistent ~8 BB/100 winner at .5/1 to 2/4 PLO for about 2 years until late 2022, mostly on the apps, but now it's a **** show. I'm currently in a run where it feels like I'm getting smacked down constantly by variance, like 20 winning sessions out of my last 75, but I accept that it could just be like a 10th percentile run over these 250k hands.
11-29-2023 , 02:22 PM
20 buyin swings definitely super common and standard for 6max PLO. Winrate/std dev also aren't static.
11-29-2023 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Vronge
160 std dev is probably a reasonable # if all your hands were PLO4 and 6-handed, but as you introduce other PLO variants and especially lots of 2-4 handed play, then 200+ becomes more accurate.

I'd guess a lot of PLO pros have experienced a couple runs that they don't think are mathematically fair as edges dwindle.

I had been a consistent ~8 BB/100 winner at .5/1 to 2/4 PLO for about 2 years until late 2022, mostly on the apps, but now it's a **** show. I'm currently in a run where it feels like I'm getting smacked down constantly by variance, like 20 winning sessions out of my last 75, but I accept that it could just be like a 10th percentile run over these 250k hands.
What would you guess the std dev of a mix 5/6 card plo played both 6m and SH?
12-03-2023 , 09:04 PM
Abt 2k away from 2/5, got rivered for abt 3k today in a couple big tournament spots. Confidence is still high, had a small 20bi downswing that I grinded out of pretty quick.
12-05-2023 , 04:42 AM
Won abt 2k so up to 2/5 after today… have some exams so not gonna go too hard but excited to give 2/5 another shot!
12-05-2023 , 05:48 AM
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12-05-2023 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MehAllIn
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12-05-2023 , 11:40 PM
Didn't get obliterated at 2/5 (so far), and even won like 600 (so far). Mainly happy to book what is prolly my first winning 2/5 session, after getting torched the second I sit down in the past. For now just gonna keep doing what is working, and crush ppl.
12-07-2023 , 04:13 AM
Second day 2/5 broke even, actually up at 2/5 but down a bit at 1/2 lol. Honestly 2/5 might actually be easier than 1/2 on global, I see why ppl say the site is so soft now. 2k reg 3betting me 5678ss BTN vs MP, 2k reg 3betting me A643ss(!) BB vs EP! Probably one was on tilt, and the other maybe just wanted to gamble idk haha.

I think this is why people make fun of Americans playing PLO lol. I’m gonna work my ass off to try and get all the money from this site before the HS regs learn preflop lmao. It honestly tilts me the plays I see it’s disrespectful to the game…
12-08-2023 , 11:28 AM
Welcome to the fun zone, bro
12-09-2023 , 01:42 AM
Won abt 10k today gives me a nice buffer at 500s for a bit, sunrunning whales obliterating regs today was a good day . Was playing down to 100s bc idc just extra money might as well grind that when not much higher action. Will post some fun hands from my hot run on party in a bit. Big changes have been playing format I'm good at, accepting the truth of variance, playing soft games / table selecting (not playing 3h!) and running much better! In addition to just improving at the game.

Last edited by KnoxKnoxJoke; 12-09-2023 at 01:59 AM.
12-09-2023 , 01:57 AM



Results recent on tracked



Hold in a big spot



Was on mega tilt this hand and just spazzed out but rivered quads

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/e1...4-93f67d5a805e

Missed turn barrel but didn't put him on a set

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/7d...a-a62d02de28c7

Didn't wanna see a flop in a big pot out of position so just call pre with this hand but happy to shovel pre
12-09-2023 , 10:21 PM
Great stuff buddy!

The tt97 hand looks a bit spewish, but who cares you got there and you mentioned it yourself. Now that you are finally at a place where you feel like you belong I would suggest that you look into your tilt issues for real. PLO is a ruthless game and one tilt'ish session can drop you 10k right back, no mercy. Like the "Was on mega tilt this hand and just spazzed out but rivered quads" is just not going to cut it for a professional. There is no justification for this kind of thinking. Best of luck! Also, for us eurotards (or at least in my location) the globalpoker HH's is not working :/
12-09-2023 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lol47
Great stuff buddy!

The tt97 hand looks a bit spewish, but who cares you got there and you mentioned it yourself. Now that you are finally at a place where you feel like you belong I would suggest that you look into your tilt issues for real. PLO is a ruthless game and one tilt'ish session can drop you 10k right back, no mercy. Like the "Was on mega tilt this hand and just spazzed out but rivered quads" is just not going to cut it for a professional. There is no justification for this kind of thinking. Best of luck! Also, for us eurotards (or at least in my location) the globalpoker HH's is not working :/
Tbh it looks like mega spew but the idea is solid / solver approved to bet set no flush blocker sometimes in this spot. Basically fold out some stuff and then hit boats in bigger pots, get some value etc. I like the line and my logic in game, but combo selection might be imprecise. And yeah global HHs don’t work in non global allowed areas.

Kind of joking abt tilt agree it has no place in the game of a professional.
12-09-2023 , 11:04 PM


Lol somebody sent me this - obviously I don’t play NL on global haha. And have been 9 tabling global as early as a week ago. Funny troll
12-11-2023 , 05:50 PM
Finishing up finals, plan for near future is as follows

-Continue to mop up all the money on global 100s-500s

-Deposit on ignition once global withdrawal hits and play good 500s games

-Look for games running between the other sites I am on rn

-Continue studying, building new ideas I can use to crush ppl in game and refining my accuracy in common spots

-Make money, start to shot take 5/T after winning roughly 10k more

-Build roll to grind WSOP in May/July

If results suddenly fall and I move back down to 200s, similar ideas just will have to re-assess WSOP ideas potentially depending on how things look (potentially finding backing idk). What won't change is my study or approach to game selection.

Feeling that I have identified some stuff that works well, going to remember this feeling throughout the next downswing. Just try to remember that I know what works, just have to keep my head up.


Also, shoulder impingement suddenly healed a couple days ago. Back into the gym! Super stoked.

Last edited by KnoxKnoxJoke; 12-11-2023 at 06:00 PM.
12-11-2023 , 06:31 PM
wow great news
never thought we would come this far

soon plo1k high stakes with 50k roll or even 100k thats awesome
even consideering backing it is awesome
12-13-2023 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KnoxKnoxJoke
Down 15bi on Global today - small losing on party and playnow.....

Have never been more sure a game isn't clean in my life.

Facing lots of under pot size 3bets by "dozenuts" and "deezinyo"... They play the same way with similar nickname (I had both whale tagged) and annihilated me today. Obviously coincidence, who would cheat and name their accounts the same right?? BUT this is just too ****ing weird. Have been grinding 1/2 zoom lately and never have had sessions like this, have 8bb all-in adj rn. Really ****ing strange to me that I can be winning in these "hard" games, but games with 2 whales 2 fish per table I magically have these days where I am unable to not just delete my account balance.

Really sucks to get totally screwed like this, especially right after feeling like I made some good mindset and game changes.

Literally sending in a report to Global and not gonna bother playing there until the games get cleaned up, gonna deposit to a diff site.


7bbev wr in zoom (running 7bi below, not everyone can run 210 bi above EV :P), can't win on softest non segregated site in the world. At what point am I supposed to start caring about and making decisions based on my results?
Isn't this a little ironic when you've sat at the same 2-5 tables as your backer, who has a history of using RTA?
12-13-2023 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RevisFan
Isn't this a little ironic when you've sat at the same 2-5 tables as your backer, who has a history of using RTA?
Not 100% on who you’re associating me with, but I think you’ve been fed some incorrect information

Not much ironic about it, I have never seen either of those users again after that night. Unless you’re accusing me of RTA? Which is LOL, I make tons of mistake every day in every node. And play many tables with quick decisions. Or maybe you’re accusing me of collusion? Which is also LOL, I’m not sure what you’ve seen or heard that would suggest that.

My cooperation with my coach is the cause of my improved results, not cheating.
12-14-2023 , 07:48 PM
Abt 5.5k from starting to selectively look for 5/T games... It will not change much. 5/T obvs doesn't run much, sometimes on Party/Global. Not gonna add 5/T on Ignition right away. For now the focus is continuing to print, study, and crush ppl at 100s-500s. Games will be harder when I add 5/T but I welcome it with open arms.

12-16-2023 , 11:04 AM
Well played, sounds like you found the recipe for success. How many hands and do you have some graphs to share with your progress? Good luck on 5/10
12-16-2023 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Iskovic
Well played, sounds like you found the recipe for success. How many hands and do you have some graphs to share with your progress? Good luck on 5/10
Thanks - I had a hand goal of 35k in November which I played much more then. Not 100% sure on how many since vast majority is on untracked. But playing ignition 2/5 now so will have more tracked stuff soon. Will post ignition+party graph soon. Part of not caring as much abt results is not checking how much I’m up/down, not even checking ev. So haven’t been importing hands from party or ignition consistently. Just focusing on playing and studying.
12-19-2023 , 07:13 PM


3bp call flop call turn call riv lol. Didn’t think he had it!
12-20-2023 , 05:01 AM


recent (last month and a bit) party/ignition results, not playing other tracked places rn. Tbh hadn't checked results, pretty happy with how things are coming along. Not gonna check results for a while after this, was happy to see like 22bbev at 2.5/5, but if the ev was negative (and it was only over 2k hands) I would have been disappointed, even though it's obviously a meaningless sample either way, just like the 10k hands is also meaningless.
12-22-2023 , 07:29 AM
https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/0d...c-966d94382a15

Another nice +6k~ session, which unlocks 5/T shots for me. Just gonna keep doing what works and keep crushing ppl.

      
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