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06-27-2013 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FourDeuce
Also thoughts of dealers that specifically play in the games they deal. (I'm not playing where I work because I'm not allowed). I have a nitty tipping feeling with a dealer now.
Don't think it's too bad, though you do get a lot of free info if you're paying attention. Personally I wouldn't mind it.

Keep up the run good!

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06-27-2013 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bortron5000
Don't think it's too bad, though you do get a lot of free info if you're paying attention. Personally I wouldn't mind it.

Keep up the run good!

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I just like to make sure I tip, but I feel if another dealer is playing in this game and eating into my edge, I'm less likely to tip him when he deals.
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06-28-2013 , 03:31 AM
Finished out tonight with a lot of good feelings.

Bought in for $100, and cashed out $502. While I profited a lot today, I both ran well and got really lucky very early. Late in the session I folded a lot and missed some flops, chopped some small ones to hover around ~$480-$530.

I downloaded a tracker app that will make it easier to keep everything at the table/phone. Also organized and removed the "staking" section of my poker roll. I didn't feel that should count towards win rates, so it should be separate.

In the very small volume played I have been doing well in limit poker, and losing in NL. I am excited to have these numbers on paper now and see what I'm doing in each session. I can find mistakes as I play much more than I used to.

Also think I'm going to change my short term goals and try to fund a couple things through poker. I may be jumping the gun a little bit, but that's what my job is for. I will continue to track all my sessions, just would like to use some of the extra dollars for now.

For that future, I'm considering updating the thread title in a new one. If/when I do, I will post the link here and to the old one.

Side note, how can I post pictures? I put them online, just not sure how here. Image thing doesn't seem to work on my phone(all my posts are from my phone).
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06-29-2013 , 06:30 PM
Playing again in the same Omaha 8 game in a few minutes. Curious how things will go after playing a couple days ago. A new month is coming up, so I'm excited to keep an upward trend going forward.

Hands/comments to follow.
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06-29-2013 , 08:20 PM
Guy to my left keeps begging for the boards to pair and paying off rivers when flushes/straights are clear. Learning without experiencing for him that if the board paired, it is almost never good unless you have top set. This is just confirming all the things I hear about Omaha: draw to the nuts with redraws.

Hand selection in Omaha is so more important than in hold em.
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06-30-2013 , 01:29 PM
Updating from last night's session.

Played just over 5 hours in the main Omaha8 game and had another good session. I felt like I might have been able to fold pre a bit more. I played hands with very little scoop potential for no really good reason.

That's bad.

Might have something to do with the new session logger that I downloaded. I was trying to get a lot of things set up and got distracted, but I feel like I can continue using the app now that I've got everything how it needs to be.

I bought in with $100 and left with $258. I am curious how many would advise buying more so I can "cap it on a kill pot" if I have to. Someone said this and I thought it would be a really good idea. If I lost my initial $100, I would likely rebuy for another $100. Why not start with it?

I am seeing how limpy/cally this game is, very passive. Basic goal is to flop nut-nut draws and be aggressive, they will call all the way with so much less. I even tested reads after watching regs this entire month, creates a kind of confidence that I know where I am at in a hand against them.

I feel like going to the flop 6+ ways, I have to continue with more combo nut draws. Sure I can continue with bare nut lows vs 6 opponents and profit if I get half, but scooping these huge $150+ pots would be the most profitable. I think this is why I need to get preflop right, I can't remember how many players are in each hand in this game like I can in hold em. I play many more hands in Omaha than I do in NLHE, but I still think I play pretty right compared to the rest of the players in my pool.

I find that I raise the high only hands like KKJT from any position, that might be spewy rather than only opening that from EP. I also think 3betting/capping with A2xxss is so profitable in these types of games because if you're raising initially, you actually want someone to 3 bet so you can cap.

I'll continue with more. I know I'm just rambling, but I'm inspired.
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07-01-2013 , 11:24 AM
According to my spreadsheets/app June was a winning month.

+$721 Overall

+$1040 Omaha 8
-$411 NLHE
+$92 LHE

I have set myself a guideline and I should stick to it. Unless I'm in a home game (dealers choice, a lot of stud/omaha/acey-deucey) I'll mostly be sticking to limit Omaha 8. This will give me (hopefully) a steady upward trend towards a healthy NLHE roll.

With the first month in the books, I've shown consistent wins in limit games, but mostly Omaha8, but very low volume, ~38 hours. I should be able to play in the same game at least twice a week.

June:

[x] winning month (overall, yes, NLHE no)
[x] play at least once a week (average session ~5 hours)
[ ] fund a NLHE roll (I think this will still happen, but I find myself pulling from poker income somewhat frequently, and a move is coming shortly)
[x] LEARN + STUDY

July Goals
[ ] positive month
[ ] play twice a week
[ ] LEARN + STUDY
[ ] develop more poker connections
[ ] keep up with thread
[ ] more HHs
[ ] figure out what I want for my Birthday

June: +$721
July: n/a
Since Beginning Thread: +$721
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07-02-2013 , 02:29 PM
To post pictures, go to imgur.com and you should be able to figure it out from there. +721, not too shabby. You said you are losing in NL so far, but how much? Are you close to BE?
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07-02-2013 , 02:50 PM
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To post pictures, go to imgur.com and you should be able to figure it out from there. +721, not too shabby. You said you are losing in NL so far, but how much? Are you close to BE?
With the relative volume, I'd say I was a small loser in NLHE this month. -$411 in two NL sessions, $300 in one and $111 in another. I added $100 in the first session and decided to get up rather than add to the second session. Those totaled ~7 hours of play.
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07-07-2013 , 08:38 PM
Been away from the table this past week due to holiday activities, should be playing on Thursday and Saturday. Might add an occasional Sunday/Monday to the mix. There is a 1$/$1NL game available that I might look into also, probably plays a little smaller than $1/$2 normally would because max buy is $100.

I think I will be using any profits towards a couple things, but I will still track each session and my progress.

With that said, Monday night may be a NL session.
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07-08-2013 , 12:43 AM
played 1/1 only a few times so I cant say much much about how it plays, but I remember it plays much more weak/tight than 1/2, with lots of limping and trying to see cheap flops. May be different at the game you are playing in, but it makes sense this would be the dynamic of the games since they guys are choosing not to play 1/2. probably will also be a number of short stacks around the 50-60bb range.
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07-08-2013 , 12:52 AM
I figure it might play a lot like TPTK is the nut hand with players dumping their money because "I was open ended" or "I haz frush drawz" because they see it on TV.

Both the glory and horror of low stakes.

Also seeing a similar trait in the Omaha game. "I had the nut low draw, so I had to see the river"
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07-08-2013 , 11:21 PM
I am awful. This is a reminder that I'm awful.
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07-09-2013 , 01:35 AM
I am not a no limit player right now. Limit Omaha8 is a much better game for me and my financial situation.

Aces cracked twice, once for a small pot and the second I had AsAd and flop comes T62sss, I made it $10 pre, bet $22 HU, and $25 on the turn and guy ships for ~$40 more, I call. River 7 and he has 107o. NH sir. I want that call everyday.

No more NL for me outside of a home game that I occasionally play with my friends. Giving up that pipe dream.
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07-18-2013 , 07:21 PM
Played last week net: +$2

Been sitting for just over an hour and added $80 to my original buy, but we are in the green. Having thoughts about flopping one pair hands and wondering if betting is the right play.
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07-24-2013 , 10:42 AM
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Played last week net: +$2

Been sitting for just over an hour and added $80 to my original buy, but we are in the green. Having thoughts about flopping one pair hands and wondering if betting is the right play.
Be more specific
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07-24-2013 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FourDeuce
I am not a no limit player right now. Limit Omaha8 is a much better game for me and my financial situation.

Aces cracked twice, once for a small pot and the second I had AsAd and flop comes T62sss, I made it $10 pre, bet $22 HU, and $25 on the turn and guy ships for ~$40 more, I call. River 7 and he has 107o. NH sir. I want that call everyday.

No more NL for me outside of a home game that I occasionally play with my friends. Giving up that pipe dream.
If you are quitting on it that easily, maybe you just aren't cut out to be a winning NL player. There is lots of money to be made, but if you aren't willing to put in the work...

Don't let short term variance bother you. Easier said than done on a smaller roll though.
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07-24-2013 , 12:14 PM
I was frustrated. Just need to stick to my game. I feel like I was playing maybe too tight and frustrated when it has taken too long for a winning NL session.

Anyway, I did end up playing a short 3 hour NL session and won $37, but that was after an O8 loss. Details to come, just an update before I close on my place.
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07-25-2013 , 02:59 PM
So, played NL and won $37 at a shorthanded table. I was very comfortable opening up my range and getting in the mix. Standard raise seemed to be between $7-$12 dollars. I would raise to $7 with my entire range until one player sat and started raising to $12.

I shoved into the nuts when I held A3ss on the button after calling a "5 straight" raise from MP(wore glasses and hat, talked about not being awful, but being okay).

Flop came As7s3x

MP cbet $12 into 2 others and I figured I'd get a call from lots of big Ax hands and flush draws. Effective stacks we're ~$100ish except one player had ~$250, most players were short and playing smaller pots. I guess this is why $7 was a pretty standard raise.

So I shoved for ~$80 more and he snap calls with AA, ran into the top of his range, but I still like my shove. I could peel a card and raise the turn too, but I didn't want the blind to have a cheap look.

Seemed like a standard-ish spot considering stack sizes and the way the table was. Normally I'll always have a full stack, I support that. Maybe shouldn't have played if the entire game was a bunch of shorties.

Anyway, getting a winning session in NL was nice. I was beginning to hate results, but felt I was doing things right.

I won a decent sized pot after a friend of mine(also a dealer, dealt the WSOP last year) started chatting when we were heads up in a pot I raised:

I am UTG in this game and I believe I have enough reason to raise A7hh to $7 because a few players will call with so much less pre and just fold a lot of flops since they miss often.

one call from the SB. Flop comes 678r. SB checks, I check(figuring I might have showdown value, didn't want to get pushed out of the pot.

Turn: 678r Ad (~$18)

SB checks, I go to make a bet and he says "oh come on, why you gotta bet?" I'm honest in my reply: "because I hit that card." I bet $13, and he calls after saying that it hit him too.

River: 4 (~$44)

He checks and I'm reaching again because he doesn't have many 5s, if it at all, in his range. He says something along the lines of "are you betting the river? I'm there too" I said "I can beat just an ace." He's surprised and turns his cards over to reveal AQss just after I bet $20 (which I figured was enough to get a call from whatever Ax type hand he had, might have been able to get more).

Im not sure why, but I start to laugh to myself. So he kinda picked up on that and must have thought I was bluffing and calls.

Other than those two hands, I felt like I mixed up what seemed like a loose image (I do enjoy playing a lot of hands, but I feel I play right in between tight and loose) with a winning image though.

Telling the truth during a hand I always interesting, I enjoy the table talk when the others decide to partake.

Probably playing the O8 game again tonight and looking forward to rebound from last weeks loss.
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07-25-2013 , 03:31 PM
Def wanna bet with A7 on that board. You can get called by worse and you don't want to allow your opponents a free card to improve

Not really a time you should be worried about sd value and getting pushed off the pot bc if you are behind you have very little equity so no problem just b/f.
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07-25-2013 , 03:34 PM
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Def wanna bet with A7 on that board. You can get called by worse and you wanna protect your equity in the pot. Not really a time you should be worried about sd value and getting pushed off the pot bc if you are behind you have very little equity so no problem just b/f.
On the flop of 678r, probably get calls from a bunch of 9x hands. Should we be b/f a lot of turns as well?

Edit: HU we should probably be betting very often. I can see that.
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07-25-2013 , 03:39 PM
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Be more specific
P4MS, this was intended as an O8 thought.

Ex: 5 way flop (pretty damn common in this game) Hero has A2Q5 and I was just curious how often should I be betting Q high flops like Q94. Obviously position is great in any game and could be villain dependent. But is this really thin? I can't expect to like my High Hand on any turn really. Not really sure what kind of line to take.
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07-25-2013 , 07:45 PM
Sitting in the same O8 game. Might update more than usual?
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07-25-2013 , 08:57 PM
I'm not much of an O8 expert, so my analysis won't be very helpful. GL!
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07-25-2013 , 09:01 PM
Im pretty sure you'd know I ran bad this hand.

I got none if this pot:

Hero has Ac2d3c7d. Flop comes As7s8h.

Turn 2
River 3
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