I could do this, but I don't plan on going to those for some time. I'd like to build up my roll before consistently playing NL. I just took a hit recently anyway. To be honest I do not typically deal $1/$2 yet because of my lack of seniority($1/$2 is the bigger of the games @ work), so I won't have the above advantage.

Gotta love the people that call with a draw no matter what. At least we know i't not a profitable play for the long run and they won't last very long.

Just my $.02 but when your roll is so small, after getting up a buy in or two I would leave, at this point you can't afford to lose a 200bb pot... Unless table has a huge weak spot you're willing to risk ur money to exploit.. Which poker is all about lol

Good things today, it's Thursday and helped a friend unpack and get things done at their new place. Good karma flowing, maybe that will translate into good spots tonight.

Probably going to post hands in an Omaha thread if I can find one, better to post there than here maybe. They will be listed in both though.

Have not tallied roll but I believe it is ~$290 after a stake and last weekends NL loss.

$3/$6 limit O8 On the kill, has $6 posted and Hero picks up Q8ss 79cc and checks after two limpers. Two more call and 5 way to the flop

Ad Qc Jc

Check, check, Hero???

What's the play? C/c?

If we do make our draw?

I feel like folding is the better play, but also curious to what others think

Seems like your reverse implied odds are very bad, two people left to act, I do not see the value in betting 2nd pair with a draw to the 2nd nut straight and less than nut flush draw. Not a pro at omaha by any means, but from what I understand you generally don't have a great holding here.

Unless I'm missing something, which is very possible @ many beers deep. What were your thoughts in that spot?

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I folded, seems pretty standard. Might just be results oriented. If im unsure about anything, I might as well ask.

Alright, standard spot then, good fold. Ask aesah about that ****.

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Last night played in the Omaha game again. I'm starting to discover regs and how they play, so some more reads will given with HH. Played for about six hours and finished up $250, but did add a second $100 when things didn't go my way initially.

I started scooping hands late and that largely boosted my winnings, I can see why people say to play hands with scoop potential. Playing in this game more often has me learning quickly now that I analyze things more and document my progress.

I feel that if I can continue down the path of learning, questioning and experience that I'm on, there's no way I won't reach my goals.

One question that I had that wasn't working last night. I remember trying twice last night to check raise the turn with the nuts that I flopped, but it went through. How often should a c/r on the turn beat out just betting our hand? How should I play my top set type hands in limit to get the greatest return? What's the most profitable line with those? I usually take a b/b/b line, although a b/checkraise/b line might be better.

Played $1/$2 for three and a half hours at Firekeepers, left down $111. Besides the outcome, I was happy with the way I played.

Effective stacks ~$240 Had JJ in CO and raised the $6 button straddle with a limper to $23 and the straddler tanked before calling. 3 to the flop

9c 7c 6s

Check, I bet $35, and button raises to $80 with about $100 behind. Fold, hero ???

I also raised 88 on the button to $10 after one limper (probably should have made it more) and the SB 3 bets to $35. Limper folds and I folded. I had ~$200 to start the hand and figured villain to be re-raising with premiums until I filled some reads on the table. Seemed standard-ish.

I think it's questionable to limp/call in MP with QsJs, but I did vs an Asian in late position when he made it $12 and the button called. I'm OoP with what amounts to nothing but a drawing hand.

Flop came 10x 10s 9x

Check, $25, call, and I called.

Turn Jc

I bet because the Asian seemed to be upset he got two callers and I figured he might have had plenty draws to Broadway that may call a bet and fold the river. The button didn't seem to have much interest in the hand, especially after I bet $35 and Asian Villain calls.

River: 8s

Hero bets $50 (reading this back makes me believe I underbet so much on too many streets). Villain folds.

I guess I got a favorable flop, but l/c QJ OoP is probably not the best play. Probably raise > call > fold.

I hate the idea of open folding this pre, much rather raise this than fold. Concerned about this being a possible leak.

Helpful if you post pot size on each street. Math is hard

Hand 1: reads on villain would be nice. Preflop raise seems fairly large, even with a limper, I'd maybe make it $18 to keep the pot slightly more manageable.

Against the average villain I'd say this is more likely a made straight or a set than a drawing hand (maybe A8 of clubs), and you're pretty crushed vs that range. Even vs AQcc you're basically flipping. I don't mind a fold here. Sucks to see such a coordinated board with over cards.

Hand 2: Good fold if not super deep

Hand 3: You could probably open raise with QJs and take the lead, but I think then you have to fold to a 3bet since you can be dominated very easily.

Also, thinking about the hands you are ahead of OTT, it's pretty much AK, AQ, medium to low aces, and pocket pairs 7s and below. Many V's will just call pre with low pairs and Ace rag, so it's safe to say his range is 77+, and A10+, which pretty much has you crushed.

Unless you put him on EXACTLY AK or AQ, It seems to me that it would make sense turn your hand into a bluff OTT and bomb it for $120+. Otherwise, if you do have some idea you are ahead (which I guess you were in this case), then extract more value with a bigger bet (which I know you agree with).

Anyway, well done on only a mild losing session I had a ~$350 swing Saturday at the very end of my session to leave -$400. Not thrilled about that. Wish I had left when I was only down $110 haha.

I usually post the amount in the pot, just wanted to get those online rather than just in my head.

Self diagnosed leaks:

Not paying attention to stack sizes with pairs for implied odds. I am much better than I used to be about this, so I'm pretty much writing this off.

Not betting enough

I think I need to bet/fold when flushes and straights come when I have semi-strong hands.

I still have my loose (occasionally spewy,FPS) tendencies and I've been so much better about it since June when I started this thread. Probably because Ive been more concentrated on playing well.

Hopefully I can be better about posting my winrates/roll so I don't spend my poker dollars, which is really easy to do. But I think getting started with documenting each session is a step in the right direction. At least I'm in the green this month.

/endrant

I was confident with my play minus the results, but good things will happen. Im just anxious to get a decent roll started. I think $1,500- $2,000 is a good first step. Then I think I can really get started in fixing the leaks in my game and start my grind.

I will probably continue to play in the Omaha split games even after I'm established if it's an off day or something, I really enjoy playing that game.

player description on the JJ hand? It could go either way based on that, but usually this is a safe fold, not for sure though.

88, easy fold, not deep enough to set mine. WP

QJss hand is a open raise, as played I may be limp/folding with no reads. Limping QJss is just not in my game anymore, I may fold this up front in EP. but its definitley a default in my game as a raising hand, and a great hand in LP.

Villain in JJ hand "talked" like he knew what was going on, yet seemed very recreational. I'd give him a subpar stereotype, he did overplay AJ on a AKT84 board. I believe that was after this JJ hand.

I liked the way I played the 88, how often are you opening this pot for a raise? I can see limping and calling being viable.

I think that because I was still developing reads on the table I limped QJss. However my LAG ish mind always gets a little excited when I see suited connectors. I feel I should have raised this pre if I was going to play it.

Thanks for your input, I enjoy your posts.

Your welcome, 88 is a clear raise for value at a typical table. As a somewhat inexperienced player, expect a couple awkward spots though

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I figured. I'm asking too many questions while getting this thread started to err on the safe side. It will probably be at least a week before playing any live NL unless it's a home game. I need to recalculate my roll since it was my girlfriend's birthday and I spent some dollars.

Anyway, I'm happy with just keeping track and building up through limit O8.

Appreciate all that read/respond. Absolutely will be giving credit to 2p2 when I reach my goals.

Quick thought:

I feel that when $1/$2 begins being my primary game, I think $300 will be my buy in, even if $200 is the cap, just so I have top up chips. I think that will allow me a better bankroll management strategy in the long run while teaching me a good habit of topping off.

Before hitting 2p2 forums I had never really topped off, and folded much less and was maybe more decisive. Not sure what's going on there, but I hope it doesn't affect things in a negative way

100 is still a bit small to have as your only available top-off funds in a 200 cap game, but it is still better than nothing.

its good your beginning to top off, its a good habit and completely necessary. I keep red birds and greens in my pocket and top of every orbit if i have to when I drop to even 195. pretty common for me to go through 100 topping off in under an hr without even getting involved in any significant pots.

Think $400 would be more appropriate? Keep $200 off? I'm just trying to find a good/consistent amount to understand where my levels should be if/when I believe I can move up. I always found 20BI is a good start, but I feel like I would want more than that still.

little confused where the connection is between moving up and what you should keep to top off.

ya, 20bi is usually the minimum for any specific stake, but it varies on a number of factors that others have much more to offer than I can. I would need more than 20bi as well if I was playing full time.

as for topping off, it should be based on what your comfortable with too loose in any given session.

if 2bi is your max, then I'd keep slightly more, like 2.5 bis on you when you play (500) at 1/2. just an emotional thing where you should play better when they aren't worried about running out of cash.

personally I have 4bi on me when I play (800), but would very unlikely play if I lost 3bi, possibly less. having the extra money just keeps me focused on playing optimally while having zero concern for the money since I know I'll always have more if I need it.

Topping off + initial stack = buy in to me. I guess technically I would say 2 BI would have been $400 before considering top-ups. I was thinking of how players go about handling their roll and where they keep it. Banks, particular places at home or just on you at all times etc.

It's Thursday, so I'm sitting and waiting for a game to start. Depending on battery I'll post what I can.

Also thoughts of dealers that specifically play in the games they deal. (I'm not playing where I work because I'm not allowed). I have a nitty tipping feeling with a dealer now.

Tried to add some chip pics. Running very good, seem to be a lot of straightforward hands. Bought $100 and somewhere over $400 now. Hands and more details following.