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anyone have a link to last years thread?

thx.

Sorry to hear about the frustration, but in a way it makes me feel better. If a great player like you can be frustrated by microlimits Rush, then I don't feel so bad by being frustrated by it too

I dropped back to 5NL Rush this morning. Decided to try and put KurtSF's nit guide for the micros into action at 5NL Rush. Have some kinks to work out, but I played 1012 hands this morning and only dropped one buyin... and most of that was to a hand where I was way ahead all-in post flop and got rivered. As opposed to my normal ~600 hands of 10NL every morning where I drop 2+buyins. So far it's working

Really looking forward to your stat analysis Verneer. I have close to 30K hands of Rush poker now between 5NL and 10NL. Can't wait to see how you analyze your stats so I can start looking at mine with some idea of what to look for

thx

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...2010-a-676130/

Perhaps something to think about, but sometimes when I am 4 tabling rush poker, I go into an almost catatonic auto-pilot mode state where hands are just flying by, and I'm just clicking and clicking, and I don't really have any cognizance of what exactly and why exactly I am doing it. THen I go through my hand histories and say "WTF was I thinking". My bb/100 is like patheticaly low in rush games, but I guess it equals out through the mass volume of hands your going through.

thx!

just saw the pdf link a few pages back but could not get the download to work...

worked fine for me a couple of days ago

meh your better off reading through the thread, i think the pdf is only verneer's posts..

Hey Verneer,

Really looking forward to this thread - last year's really helped my game. Great of you to do it for charity.

Interesting to hear your results so far - I'm currently enduring a 30k hand break even stretch in the FR Rush games after some initial success. Variance clearly plays a part. With Rush, I think the games are tougher and tighter with more regs. Also, something which you've posted on in the past is the importance of table selection which is lost entirely in the Rush games - I'd be interested to hear what impact you think that will have on win rates in the Rush games.

I'm coming to the conclusion that my winrate is roughly halved at the Rush tables. Running some numbers in a variance calculator, variance increases considerably with a reduction in winrate. The higher number of hands/hour still seem to make it worthwhile in the long run though.

Hopefully I'm not just justifying my recent poor play but I think there is more to it.

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=598240

This link works for me as of right now - last year's post in PDF format

Im having a few problems at 10nl FR rush now aswell,although you are far a better player so you would be more frustrated as you are used to beating a high level more comforatbly.I lost 6 buyins withing and hour last night. aa< k7s kk<a3s
,they wernt pre flop but were 3bet pots by myself and cbet pot right into the two different players only for them to hit the turn and me stack off.Also had set v top pair top kicker only for him to hit runner runner full house .

This has happened to me before but not at 10nl.Im going to put it down to variance as i havnt had a bad swing in a few weeks.Bit scary losing 6 buy ins at 10nl at my first time to play it.going to keep playing though because i have just started to get my red line going pretty straight.

I dropped down to 5nl last nite and picked up 2 buying so going to stick there for an hour or two today to get the confidence back up.Keep it going verneer!

Haven't graphed the exact function but I'm pretty sure it would look something like this:

also it's hosted here:

http://www.groene-appel.nl/moving_th...10_verneer.pdf

but the link is a little laggy. Give it a few minutes to load sometimes.

subscribing. great thread

just suscribed thx to you Verneer

Something to think about: Given your logic above - 22 has 34% equity against the range you assigned, but im guesing you would flat that hand. Why?

22 does fare pretty well against all unmade hands such as AJo+, A10s+, KQ, coming from a sit'n'go background i'd be more inclined to shove with 22 then I would with AJ, or hell even AK sometimes.

I do like flatting with 22 in the blinds to a early position raise, because it's easy to play post flop out of position, there will always be over cards on the flop/turn/river, and really your looking to hit your set, or if you think the player is susceptible enough to take a shot with air at some scary looking boards. Fold to aggression.

With hands like AK, out of position to an unknown early position raiser, you can get yourself in a lot more trouble. Atleast, I mean I tend to find myself in trouble, I like to give myself the easiest decision, I mean at the micros I think you can avoid the marginal spots and simply look for nice and easy value spots because there are more bad plays to capitalize on, then trying to squeeze out a few extra BB/100 with some elaborate move or gut check hero call you know?

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=598240&dv=1


at the bottom click on: "Click here to download your file"

I like this thread,
i will follow it this year,
i actually found the 2010 thread and it's wondurrrrful PDF and all.
Hope to contribute to 2011. I play 25NL.

Jan 5th Summary:

Well - I am over the $300 mark again, but this time I feel like I've got the momentum on my side:



I am running quite a bit under EV in standard frustrating spots (losing sets in 3-bet pots, etc, etc).

Still - my new highs >> old highs and my new lows << old lows. Thus, as I've said, I'm happy with the trend.

Given that I've put in over 31K hands so far, I've also cleared $128 of my $450 EOTY Iron Man Bonus as well as $69 in rakeback. So - when all that comes through, my bankroll will spike.

Also, as mentioned, I played a 3K hand session of 6-max today:



As promised, I'll discuss some of the adjustments I'll make moving forward tomorrow. I imagine I'll start working in more 6-max into my schedule, although I would still like to put in quite a bit of FR.

enjoying this thread. gl & ty

Ok, total n00b question here... why is 6max so much different from FR? More/less standard play? More/less fish?

Seeing that second graph makes me wonder if I should check out 6 max, but I know I'm not ready for that

6 Max play you can be much looser, because you have less people to act behind you, and the games get a little more aggressive, I find that full ring is a tiny bit more passive, you won't see alot of limped multi-way pots in 6H, most people who limp get isolated raised on, and you have to be wary of the limp/jam technique which is getting more popular with monster hands.

Table selection is super important on 6 max, because you want the nits on your left, and the loose/passive loose/aggressives on your right. Otherwise your just going to be having a hard time.

I find my VPIP/PFR for 6 max to average right around 21/20, and my Full Ring usually sits around 16/14. The reason is because you only have 1 UTG and 1 MP which you play tight, and you can usually play your CO/BTN very aggressively.

I'd rather be a little bit under EV then above, atleast if my graph is still going up, I am interested to hear what adjustments you made. It's going to be interesting getting back into the games again when I come back after a 6 month hiatus.

6max always seemed to be your game verneer, good luck and looking forward to hearing about the adjustments

I've given up on 6max Rush due to tilting, losing tons of buyins, and being higher variance IMO than FR. But good for you guys who have it under control regarding 6max Rush.