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04-29-2016 , 09:54 AM
The issue is they have me scheduled to work on Wednesday (I'll be moving to day-shift). Now, they've recently just hired a new quality person, so we have 5 guys and 5 different shifts. They want 6, so they are actually hiring right now. Without me they have 4 guys (one of which is BRAND NEW and one who is a tool and basically POS, the other two are good), and they ABSOLUTELY need a quality person on 24/7 or it'd be super bad. The lack of preparation on their part with the offer to when my temp contract ended is < 1 week. So they are in an absolutely awful spot if I decline the position and I'd assume it'd cost them thousands of dollars if they had to wait to hire another person... I'm sure that puts me in a significantly stronger position to bargain, but I'm unsure of how to "play that card".

1. I don't have enough time to get another job offer
2. I am 100% >top 20%

In the offer they gave me they'd also only give me 4 vacation days for the rest of the year which I think is absolutely ridiculous. I took 3 days off during my training period due to being sick as a dog, but have since covered two weeks worth of vacations and had countless hours of over time to get things done. I also will NOT be getting paid time and a half with the new position outside the temp agency which is a pretty substantial cut to my $/year. I do however get some benefits like health care and 401k, but their 401k isn't that great and the health care offer doesn't save me too much $ a year, maybe about 1k-1.5k/year. So I seriously feel like the offer is a kick in the balls.

The new hire they just hired has a degree in geology I think, he is 28 years old and his last job was a manager at a restaurant. I'm 23 with a Materials engineering degree + biomedical engineering minor, and he is starting at the offer they have just given me. So, what I'm basically saying is that the position does not require an engineering degree (it's pretty entry-level kind of job).

Last edited by Brokenstars; 04-29-2016 at 10:01 AM.
04-29-2016 , 11:26 AM
I only know what my company offers different positions, and even I have to say that's a ****ty offer. You might have to find out exactly what their health coverage offers you IE it might only save you $1k/yr but the copays/deductibles/what they cover might far exceed that $1k savings should you ever need it. You also should be able to bargain at least for more vacation days. I know at my company they start you off with 2 weeks of vacation for their salaried positions and you don't even need any sort of degree to get those.

You can definitely get better elsewhere, but I'm not exactly sure how many truly decent engineering jobs there are in Iowa. That might be a factor in their offer as well.
04-29-2016 , 02:15 PM
What field do you work in? The reason I ask is because it is far easier to "bargain" for a pay-rise in certain fields, as opposed to others.
04-29-2016 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ohsnapzbrah
I only know what my company offers different positions, and even I have to say that's a ****ty offer. You might have to find out exactly what their health coverage offers you IE it might only save you $1k/yr but the copays/deductibles/what they cover might far exceed that $1k savings should you ever need it. You also should be able to bargain at least for more vacation days. I know at my company they start you off with 2 weeks of vacation for their salaried positions and you don't even need any sort of degree to get those.

You can definitely get better elsewhere, but I'm not exactly sure how many truly decent engineering jobs there are in Iowa. That might be a factor in their offer as well.
The job is absolute ****. Yes, the offer is not very good. The company is pretty ridiculous tbh.

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Originally Posted by Clanty
What field do you work in? The reason I ask is because it is far easier to "bargain" for a pay-rise in certain fields, as opposed to others.
My degree is in Materials engineering and a minor in biomedical engineering. However, the position I'm in is Quality Specialist/Process engineer/Quality Engineer. It's an entry level position and they are hiring non engineers for this position.

I accepted the job due to it's very precise location to be able to live with my girlfriend while she goes to grad school.
04-29-2016 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
The job is absolute ****. Yes, the offer is not very good. The company is pretty ridiculous tbh.



My degree is in Materials engineering and a minor in biomedical engineering. However, the position I'm in is Quality Specialist/Process engineer/Quality Engineer. It's an entry level position and they are hiring non engineers for this position.

I accepted the job due to it's very precise location to be able to live with my girlfriend while she goes to grad school.
IMO there are a few variables regarding payrises.
1). Are you crucial in their functions? I.e. If you left, would you be a huge loss to your immediate colleagues, or would they be able to replace you fairly quickly?
2). Is your boss, or of whom would be in charge of a payrise, sincere enough to grant you one?

I have been lucky enough to have good relationships with all my past bosses, which obviously helps. The way I went about mine was asking for a meeting and then sitting down and explaining to them that I had been offered a job for a similar role, but more money, and that I would prefer to stay here, however the money was too good to dismiss.
04-29-2016 , 08:39 PM
1) yes, they'd be super ****ed. I got "trained" (notice quotations) for 5 weeks. The new hire they just got has been getting trained for about 8 weeks. We should probably be trained for 3-6 months at a minimum. So not only would they not have enough personell, but the job duties are vital to the plant to run. There would be at least 6 weeks before they could replace me, and any person taking the job would perform significantly worse than I can with the extra experience I've garnered over the last 5 months of working.

2) I'm actually unsure if my boss would be in charge of the pay increase, but my bosses boss has just submitted his 2 week notice and is quitting. Short answer is I'm not sure
05-01-2016 , 10:48 AM
Here's April, don't be surprised at the lack of volume. Made an additional $100-ish on ACR, which I have yet to cash out since I need to prove my identity, lol.... Anyways, no volume, beginning I crushed, end I didn't. Played pretty well overall so I'm happy with it. Obviously can't make any statements regarding 6k hands. Stakes 10nl to 200nl.

05-16-2016 , 03:53 AM
UPDATE:

So, hate my job with a passion.


Played poker for the first tie in over 2 weeks.

+ $100 or so
05-16-2016 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
UPDATE:

So, hate my job with a passion.


Played poker for the first tie in over 2 weeks.

+ $100 or so
Go pro.

Make epic new Fred about it.
05-16-2016 , 04:59 AM
eeeew real jobs

gl
05-16-2016 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
UPDATE:

So, hate my job with a passion.


Played poker for the first tie in over 2 weeks.

+ $100 or so
What is your job?
05-16-2016 , 02:16 PM
He's a quality control engineer.
05-29-2016 , 12:26 PM
Update?
05-30-2016 , 10:35 PM
Just working. Made like $100 one day and -$50 another. Have played maybe 500 hands this month. (May)

Might get into it again in June.
06-17-2016 , 11:48 PM
Just played live poker (1/2) for the first time. Bought in for $300 and played for 1 hour and cashed out with $332.
06-18-2016 , 12:06 AM
Nice man, enjoy yourself?

I played some live 2/5 the other night too, live regulars talking about game theory/thought processes is pretty hilarious
06-18-2016 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by xMJK
Nice man, enjoy yourself?

I played some live 2/5 the other night too, live regulars talking about game theory/thought processes is pretty hilarious
It was good. I felt out of place as I'm not use to it. half of them seemed to know each other and the dealers. The best (presumably) player at the table was on my direct left. There was definitely some funky plays, but I could tell all the players at the table played a decent amount. I'm not suggesting they were good, only that they were comfortable/quick/knew the rules. Obviously there were some atrocious calls/bets and WTF-min-raises and checks with the nuts that confused me.

I have a question regarding live play... I was BB with $2 out from and the BTN made it to $15. SB folded and I put in $15 and took my $2 back. IDK what the rules are and no one said anything, but is it acceptable to do this or do I need to wait for the dealer to give me the $2 back?
06-18-2016 , 12:38 AM
Also only one notable hand really. I think I played 2 hands in the hour I was there.

8-handed, most people were deep but there were like 2 shorties. I had around $300

UTG folds
UTG+1 folds
UTG+2 calls $2
MP calls $2
I'm in the CO and make it $11 w/ T9
BTN folds
SB folds
BB calls
UTG+2 calls
MP calls

4 to the flop and I'm in position AK5

checks to me and I bet $25
only the BB calls
Turn is like 7 low card double flush bringing, he checks and I make it
$50, folds and I win.

GG
06-18-2016 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I have a question regarding live play... I was BB with $2 out from and the BTN made it to $15. SB folded and I put in $15 and took my $2 back. IDK what the rules are and no one said anything, but is it acceptable to do this or do I need to wait for the dealer to give me the $2 back?
You are allowed to take your change back. Only time dealer pushes chips towards you would be if like you had a $5 chip posted for your BB and everyone limps and you check, dealer would take the $5 chip and push 3 $1's your way.
06-18-2016 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by fatNsweaty
You are allowed to take your change back. Only time dealer pushes chips towards you would be if like you had a $5 chip posted for your BB and everyone limps and you check, dealer would take the $5 chip and push 3 $1's your way.
So in a hypothetical situation where I bet $10, someone raises to $25 can I throw a $25 in and take my $10 back?
06-18-2016 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
So in a hypothetical situation where I bet $10, someone raises to $25 can I throw a $25 in and take my $10 back?
Correct.

Sometimes the dealer will pull in your $10 into the pot, and villain's $10 leaving $15 in front of villain. In that case just throw out $15. If all you have are $25's then throw that in for a call and dealer will give you change from the pot.
06-18-2016 , 01:42 AM
He lives. Still working crazy hours?
06-18-2016 , 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
He lives. Still working crazy hours?
Not currently. I stopped caring so much so I don't try as hard and I don't stay late. It's actually done wonders for my morale. I was simply doing too much and trying too hard. Now I accept the fact that no one gives a **** if I do 5x more than everyone else so I just stick with the 2-3x more than everyone else kind of attitude and don't try to get everything done--since it is basically impossible. Anyways my attitude changed a bunch when they wouldn't even talk to me regarding my salary when going from temp to full time and basically pulling random **** out of their ass for excuses/other stuff. I still do way more than everyone else and am worth significantly more than anyone in the position atm and I'm sure people know it, but my attitude does kind of suck but I just can't help it much.

Got plans to go up to Minnesota to a cabin with some coworkers to drink/boat/hang out this next weekend, but to do that I switched some days with someone. So I'll work a week straight or something... 12 hr shifts every day so it's going to suck. But I do have a week off as well right before that. I have this weekend off, June 17/18/19 and then I will work 20th 21st, but then i have 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 off but then will work 7-10 days straight (guy is also taking vacation or something).

Hot as **** in the plant and the US mint (basically government buying material to make coinage) is buying a lot of material from the company this month/next month so it's particularly busy. I won't go into details, but for this material I'm out on the "floor" and away from the computer/AC very frequently and it's awful because the heat index on the floor is like 100 F and I am just not built for that **** so it wears me down.

I've spent most of my free time doing random games/anime/tv shows. Haven't played hardly any online poker in the last 1.5 months. It's a nice break and I'm looking forward to playing some more live now that I've tried it. It's a really short drive to the casino-- only about 20 mins. Rake is 10% capped at (?) will have to ask tomorrow when I go.

Last edited by Brokenstars; 06-18-2016 at 05:07 AM.
06-19-2016 , 05:01 AM
You listed out the reasons why I no longer want to work in the corporate world.
06-19-2016 , 05:04 AM
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