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07-03-2019 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by adam001
I didn't see the clip so I guess it's hard to know the exact context. That said, I get with the modern times and everyone seeing racism under their bed every night this comment coming off as bad as it did.

I know broken quite well though and can confirm he is absolutely not racist. People who just pop into this thread using this situation as a way to dunk on someone they dislike while virtue signaling at the same time should probably re-evaluate their life. I have personally never understood how people can react to viciously to isolated reactionary incidents like this. The dude has been on video providing near free value and entertainment for countless hours while earning majority respect and suddenly he deserves to be socially ostracized as a result of one moment of poor judgement? I don't think its fair for anyone to receive this kind of hate for single moments of poor judgement in speech generally but especially when they have been in public eye for this long with a clean record.

Just my thoughts. Carry on.
You're right, it's the people that listened to this that are in the wrong and should reevaluate their lives. That was my take away message too.

I've never had a problem with BS, and people aren't just randomly hating on him in here, some people now dislike him for showing a personality trait. Context is important, I don't think there is any topic that should be out of bounds for comedy. But there is literally no real context for saying what he did though. Maybe this was his Andy Kaufman moment? or maybe he's closet racist? I don't think anyone knows anymore. If I was to give you a list of things non racists would say, this wouldn't be too high up the list.

Last edited by pontylad; 07-03-2019 at 08:29 PM.
07-03-2019 , 08:29 PM
I am not claiming what he did was ok. I am claiming it isn't a good enough reason to merit a lot of hate in this context. I can see where you're coming from, just my opinion. I mean, hes been on vid for hundreds of hours without saying something like this, so I am not sure it is fair to make a strong character judgement for this isolated incident. I have known him for years and don't remember him ever making a racist comment before so that's likely why I am having this reaction.

I was a little heated in that re-evaluate lives moment. I retract that portion and believe some people just view this more seriously than I do and think there is merit for condemning potential racism which seems respectable. I just disagree that this one comment should make him guilty of being a racist and instead believe its a convenient way for many people who already dislike him for other reasons to dunk on him.

Last edited by adam001; 07-03-2019 at 08:50 PM.
07-03-2019 , 08:47 PM
Looking forward to the next twitch stream! When can we expect it?
07-03-2019 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by adam001
I am not claiming what he did was ok. I am claiming it isn't a good enough reason to merit a lot of hate in this context. I can see where you're coming from, just my opinion. I mean, hes been on vid for hundreds of hours without saying something like this, so I am not sure it is fair to make a strong character judgement for this isolated incident. I have known him for years and don't remember him ever making a racist comment before so that's likely why I am having this reaction.
I knew him back when he was at 25nl way back when. Not as much now a days, but still.

Being on air hundreds of hours isn't really an excuse. A lot of streamers and TV personalities are on thousands of hours without saying something like this.

African Americans and Jews have been the most persecuted ethnic groups in recent memory. And the clip wasn't fully spur of the moment either. He said Jew first, paused for a bit, then said Black Jew, that's worse. It's bad.

That being said, he did come in and apologize, whereas he could have simply just let the thread and heat die down. It speaks good to his character that he did come in, face the music, and apologize.
07-03-2019 , 09:03 PM
Just want to re-iterate that I am not trying to excuse his mistake. I am just trying to give my argument as to why I don't think deeming him a racist on this moment alone is fair.
07-03-2019 , 09:10 PM
Maybe he is just low frequency racist
07-03-2019 , 09:17 PM
This is the incident in question for anyone wondering

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07-03-2019 , 10:06 PM
Anyone who knows Mason's character and saw the clip can pretty clearly see he's joking... It's painfully obvious he doesn't actually harbour hatred towards black/Jewish people and it blows my mind how that's gone over so many peoples' heads. This is like absolutely classic OP taking it right to the edge with the sarcasm but because he's so deadpan, people think he's actually not joking?!

Can totally see how people who don't know him or saw this in a vacuum think it's completely unacceptable but to anyone with any ounce of social intelligence, it's pretty clear to see that this is harmless. Amazes me how many people are willing to throw him under the bus though. Classic 2+2 nerds dabbling in outrage culture, how edgy.

At least now I'm only the second most racist person on this site. :')
07-03-2019 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SB1234
Maybe he is just low frequency racist
Damn RNG
07-03-2019 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by meale
Anyone who knows Mason's character and saw the clip can pretty clearly see he's joking... It's painfully obvious he doesn't actually harbour hatred towards black/Jewish people and it blows my mind how that's gone over so many peoples' heads. This is like absolutely classic OP taking it right to the edge with the sarcasm but because he's so deadpan, people think he's actually not joking?!

Can totally see how people who don't know him or saw this in a vacuum think it's completely unacceptable but to anyone with any ounce of social intelligence, it's pretty clear to see that this is harmless. Amazes me how many people are willing to throw him under the bus though. Classic 2+2 nerds dabbling in outrage culture, how edgy.

At least now I'm only the second most racist person on this site. :')
Anyone with an ounce of social intelligence would not make this 'joke' to an unknown; and much less with an audience. Towards a friend? Maybe. The unknown's use of 'American' as an insult had nothing to do with ethnicity, yet BS went there. Most people's retort to 'American' would not go there.

He could very well be a socially unintelligent, non-racist. Or...
07-03-2019 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SB1234
Maybe he is just low frequency racist
"this is a frequency play"
07-03-2019 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by meale
Anyone who knows Mason's character and saw the clip can pretty clearly see he's joking
I missed the punchline of the joke. Maybe you can point out the funny part for me
07-03-2019 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by angeles
"this is a frequency play"
It is important to have some blatant racism in your speech play so you can rep racist in the future
07-03-2019 , 10:42 PM
Just a random guess but i'd say 50% of white people in the U.S are racist and probably 75% of Republicians.
07-03-2019 , 10:51 PM
never liked this guy to begin with, as if he'd beat 50z on stars ever lol
07-03-2019 , 11:00 PM
Which banned account are you Kanaxis? Mzbourg?

Lol at thinking he can't beat stars 50nl your dislike of BS is blinding your judgement
07-03-2019 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by meale
Anyone who knows Mason's character and saw the clip can pretty clearly see he's joking... It's painfully obvious he doesn't actually harbour hatred towards black/Jewish people and it blows my mind how that's gone over so many peoples' heads. This is like absolutely classic OP taking it right to the edge with the sarcasm but because he's so deadpan, people think he's actually not joking?!

Can totally see how people who don't know him or saw this in a vacuum think it's completely unacceptable but to anyone with any ounce of social intelligence, it's pretty clear to see that this is harmless. Amazes me how many people are willing to throw him under the bus though. Classic 2+2 nerds dabbling in outrage culture, how edgy.

At least now I'm only the second most racist person on this site. :')
American is nationality not race. There is skill difference from American reg and European reg. Someone in chat say broken is good at poker as American. It can be seen as insult but nothing bad.

Appropriate reply maybe be something bad about European reg. Brokenstars called guy black mother ****ing jew and c*. That is not friendly insult or about nationality. Racism and hate. If broken say that in a casino in Europe they kick him out. If he say that in street be ready for violence.

Play low stakes and be hate and racist is fun for broken. Stay in your little republican safe state broken. Or do not say those things when travel. Sad day
07-03-2019 , 11:56 PM
If someone I don't know makes a joke like that in front of me I will literally beat the **** out of them. It is not funny at all. He was being mean-spirited and called someone a Jew as an insult; he also used "black" as an insult. Antisemitism is the one thing I'm willing to physically fight someone over. It is completely unacceptable to use Jew, Black, Brown, Asian, etc. as an insult to some stranger especially if you are holding yourself out to be some really smart authority. No...you're an ignorant hick.

Brokenstars would also never say this in front of a black person....cause it's offensive and not funny...and he's a nerdy coward. I hope all of you guys who think talking like this is OK or funny try copying brokenstars humor in front of a group of African-Americans and they send you to the ER.

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Originally Posted by SB1234
I missed the punchline of the joke. Maybe you can point out the funny part for me
Also this.

Honestly his apology struck me as very disingenuous. I really have no problem disseminating the clip to past/future employers as he loves to brag about his engineering degree. I would like to see some actual contrition.

edit: Making a joke about Americans skill at poker is not offensive. I'm American and it is reality that we are worse at poker than EU people. A playful reply is "ya and I don't have to waste my time having a McD's winrate on stars" "at least I don't have to live in EU" etc. Not saying a bunch of racial stuff to them.

Last edited by djz; 07-04-2019 at 12:03 AM.
07-04-2019 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by meale
At least now I'm only the second most racist person on this site. :')
Silver lining.
07-04-2019 , 12:08 AM
The response I made to someone saying I was good for an american was 0 to 100 as satire, and clearly it wasn't funny and clearly it was over the line and I'm apologizing again so there is no confusion.

I was playing 50z after not having streamed in months and the title of the stream was changed from "playing 50z" to "broke reg all money in crypto looking for stakes" also in a response to someone having said something regarding stakes during the stream. It was a joke.

I get it --- not the right place to say the things I said and it seems people are also taking it to heart which I also understand, so let me again apologize as it wasn't meant to be taken the way it clearly has.
07-04-2019 , 01:05 AM
I think maybe a nice way to appologize would be to offer a discounted coaching rate of $50 for the Black Jewish community.

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Originally Posted by meale
Anyone who knows Mason's character and saw the clip can pretty clearly see he's joking... It's painfully obvious he doesn't actually harbour hatred towards black/Jewish people and it blows my mind how that's gone over so many peoples' heads. This is like absolutely classic OP taking it right to the edge with the sarcasm but because he's so deadpan, people think he's actually not joking?!

Can totally see how people who don't know him or saw this in a vacuum think it's completely unacceptable but to anyone with any ounce of social intelligence, it's pretty clear to see that this is harmless. Amazes me how many people are willing to throw him under the bus though. Classic 2+2 nerds dabbling in outrage culture, how edgy.

At least now I'm only the second most racist person on this site. :')
If only you had an ounce of actual intelligence. But you're right. Mason says racist stuff, rest of the world is at fault.


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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
The response I made to someone saying I was good for an american was 0 to 100 as satire, and clearly it wasn't funny and clearly it was over the line and I'm apologizing again so there is no confusion.

I was playing 50z after not having streamed in months and the title of the stream was changed from "playing 50z" to "broke reg all money in crypto looking for stakes" also in a response to someone having said something regarding stakes during the stream. It was a joke.

I get it --- not the right place to say the things I said and it seems people are also taking it to heart which I also understand, so let me again apologize as it wasn't meant to be taken the way it clearly has.
Can you explain how ''mother****ing black jew ****'' was supposed to be taken? Also when you were drunk and dropping n-bombs was that also satire? Or can we blame that one on the alcohol?

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not the right place to say the things I said
You what?
07-04-2019 , 01:14 AM
DJZ do us all a favor and STFU
Nothing worse than an internet tough guy. You are here crying about racist comments and then go ahead and insult BS for the way he looks and mention how you would kick his ass for what he said, you're a complete idiot.
How the **** would you know what BS would or wouldn't say in front of someone? You don't even know the guy.
07-04-2019 , 01:42 AM
I appreciate brokenstars most recent post and it changed my view on him so thank you for that.

I don't even think the guy is racist he just said some stuff that is racist. That doesn't make it OK to say or mean that people have to be cool with it.

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Originally Posted by barney big nuts
DJZ do us all a favor and STFU
Nothing worse than an internet tough guy. You are here crying about racist comments and then go ahead and insult BS for the way he looks and mention how you would kick his ass for what he said, you're a complete idiot.
How the **** would you know what BS would or wouldn't say in front of someone? You don't even know the guy.
I just said what my reaction would be if someone said that to my face. It's a pretty common reaction...try saying the n-word in front of some black people. What do you think would happen?

I never threatened brokenstars maybe learn how to read...however if those comments he made on stream had been directed at me I would have been ****ing livid and would be trying to ruin his life right now. The guy who said that if these comments were made at a casino the person would be kicked out is correct...maybe not Commerce but at most places...you say these things on the street and you will get your ass kicked. Yes I have literally punched people in the face over these kind of comments and I would happily do it again as it felt ****ing great it has nothing to do with being an internet tough guy anti-racism is an important value to me.

I don't think I ever insulted his appearance? And if I did...OK whatever you can lose weight it's not an immutable characteristic like your ethnic background. There is a scale of acceptability. People weren't sold as slaves or put into ovens for being overweight. I'm doing keto right now w/e.

This is not being a "snowflake". Talk like this in public and see what people's reactions are. ****ing absurd people are defending racist behavior and slurs but welcome to 2019.
07-04-2019 , 01:53 AM
When did I defend what he said? Learn to read.
Lol @ you going around punching people for saying something that you didn't like or agree with. Maybe join Antifa? Those idiots would welcome you with open arms.
You called him a nerdy coward btw... and before you even go there I'm gonna get this out there
I'm a life long democrat and despise Trump more than herpes and root canals

Last edited by barney big nuts; 07-04-2019 at 01:59 AM.
07-04-2019 , 03:10 AM
Guess I’ll add race to the list of things not to talk about on 2+2

      
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