I am a little late to the thread but congrats on leaving the job. I am in no way qualified to talk about poker but as some one who has hired/manages a bunch of people including eng as long as your break does not exceed 6-9 months you have nothing to worry about.

In today's job market saying you have a competing offer is enough to keep most employers honest. Ava is correct that having a job is preferable but at this moment in the job market you should not be hurt.

I would caution you that if you choose to extend poker longer than that you risk hurting your long term earning potential in the working word.

Given what I have read you are going to do well either way. I would expect that from a pure $ perspective Eng will be better long term though there are many factors that go into that choice.

If I were you you might look into technical purchasing jobs. Someone with an Eng degree who gets EV could do well with that.


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Also if you are willing to travel and are extroverted/willing to be social technical sales can be very lucrative. Selling welders or CNC machines , parts etc can be a really good gig.


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Definitely not extroverted. What's a technical purchasing job example?

You are buying parts for the Mfg of a machine for example. Purchasing machine parts, stamping engine parts etc.

You need some technical knowledge to know what you are buying and an understanding of money/market/leverage for example.


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200z hourly is not even close to reg 500nl tables on Ignition. Even for the most crushing of regs at 200z. Winrates just aren’t that high at 200z. Tbf you don’t know what you’re talkin about wrt to midstakes+.

Thanks for posting this! Info was helpful for me also.

What kinda of hourly range should one expect on ignition with regards to 200z and 500 reg? I just started 200z and I am guessing my expectation are on the high side. I keep hearing 10bb/100 is possible on ignition.

Yes your expectations are on the high side for sure. I can’t tell you what you should expect? I don’t know you. You’re probably just gonna have to grind it out and see. Good luck.

I’d be surprised if anyone is making > 5-6bb/100 at 200z specifically over a large sample and that’s still really high imo. Just because it’s more difficult to really up your winrate when you can’t really exploit certain tendencies in players. Not to mention players that do come along and crush 200z most likely don’t stay there very long.

What is the difference in hands per hour at the two different formats?

depending on how tight you are you can get 200-250 h/hr per zone table
depending on the reg table its like 60-90h/hr

4 reg tables give about 300hph and 2 tables of zone is about 400hph.

Do 500nl reg tables run often enough to get strong consistent volume though? 6 handed?

im sure it might be dead in the morning on a monday, but evenings should be fine.

Yeah apparently. And decent 2k action too.

That's interesting. Cool.

This is my 200z graph thus far. Contains a 30bi ds of which 40-50% is pry spew. The rest is whatever, but if anyone watches my stream then they'll know I don't play perfect and honestly haven't been sun-running (aside from the beginning, but that was literally playing 200z 2-5 handed before it actually ran).

This is 6.11 evbb/100 wr atm

Yeah obv you’re probably one of the best players in that pool. I’m not surprised you have a pretty solid winrate there. However, 80-90k hands isn’t a very large sample obviously.

Well done tho. Next question is when you movin up?

OP is too 'responsible' to move up.

I feel as tho I've ran poorly overall over that sample but it's hard to say since a lot o that is simply running under ev.

Pry do 500nl in april

Good luck, ill be following. Accidentally subbed to your twitch stream. When will you be streaming again?

Disagree that it's not even close. You get way way more hands per hour at zoom. If we are just talking 500nl than a 1/2 zone table makes more sense than a 500nl table in a lot of cases. 2 1/2 zone and 2 500nl makes more sense for most than 4 500nl tables (obv a bit dependent on an individuals soft skills). There's probably sometimes that this isn't true but it's definitely still close hourly wise. Most optimal would prob be to open 4 500nl tables and if you can't find 4 really good tables than you swap out your worst tables for zoom tables.

Probably tomorrow

Clearly the poster I was replying to was comparing 200z vs 500nl. Stakes of which he has likely never played. Which is clearly not close. Even adding 2 extra reg 200nl tables won’t compare to 500nl imo.

I personally believe even adding 2 tables of 500nl to 2 tables of 200z wouldn’t compare to just playing 4 tables of 500nl. Assuming you can crush both stakes. However, it would certainly be ‘closer’ than as was previously stated.

I still stand by my stance and would be willing to make a wager that I could make more hourly playing 500nl only than someone playing 2 tables of 200z and 2 of 500nl over a large sample. Obviously the logistics of such a bet in an environment like Ignition would make it very difficult so I don’t expect to get action/probably not worth it. But I’m all for hearing terms and discussing escrow.

The amount of hph are not as powerful as one would think in a completely anonymous environment such as zone for obvious reasons.

P.s. There hasn’t been a time when I couldn’t find 4 good 500nl table since they introduced the stakes.

I've played both and higher, don't see how that's relevant since it's just a simple math problem? Also not sure why you think getting 4x the number of hands per hour isn't relevant. All that matters is hands per hour and winrate. We know roughly what hands per hour there is at each game. The only other thing you need to decide is what winrates you think are plausible for both games. What long term winrates do you think are achievable for a player in both games? I agree with you that if you can find all pretty good 500nl games the hourly is prob higher, but you are claiming that it's not even close, which is likely inaccurate. 500nl in good games very likely better but it's definitely decently close hourly wise.

If I can maintain a wr of 6bb/100 @ 200z with about 220 h/hr per table, then to justify playing at a stake 2.5x higher and @ 75h/hr I would need an hourly of X


(Xbb/100h)*(75h/hr)*$5/bb = 6bb/100h*220h/hr*$2/bb

3.75X = 26.4

X = 7.04

fairly close

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To put it another way, if one stake is 220h/hr but another is 75h/hr but 2.5x higher, then the ratio is (220/(75*2.5)) = 1.17

@ the reg table I need a 1.17x higher winrate (6*1.17=7.04)