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Moving up and grinding a decent roll on Bovada.  Possibly future career? Moving up and grinding a decent roll on Bovada.  Possibly future career?

12-31-2014 , 06:57 PM
Happy New Years 2 you as well. Your thread has helped me more than you know. Also you have come so far. You should be very proud of your year. Congratulations on a good year n I wish you much success in the future!!
12-31-2014 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LoudPacquiao
Happy New Years 2 you as well. Your thread has helped me more than you know. Also you have come so far. You should be very proud of your year. Congratulations on a good year n I wish you much success in the future!!
Thanks man, good luck on your live shot. I'm planning to play live more often too.
01-01-2015 , 11:47 AM
there's a reason why the biggest hu bumhunters often have only 50vpip.

Seeing too many flops vs fish that dont fold(esp considering rake at lower stakes) is NOT good for 99% of regulars

heres my hu stats at 100 for the month and the biggest winners in my datamine for the month



all i see is tight hu nits winning all the money. none of that "play every nice spot vs the fish"

I could get you the 6max datamine from the last few days with as many fishes as bovada at the table, the winners are all 19/16 to 21/16. The guys isoing nonstop and opening K7s for "value" in the co are not winning vs the fish.
01-01-2015 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
there's a reason why the biggest hu bumhunters often have only 50vpip.

Seeing too many flops vs fish that dont fold(esp considering rake at lower stakes) is NOT good for 99% of regulars

heres my hu stats at 100 for the month and the biggest winners in my datamine for the month



all i see is tight hu nits winning all the money. none of that "play every nice spot vs the fish"

I could get you the 6max datamine from the last few days with as many fishes as bovada at the table, the winners are all 19/16 to 21/16. The guys isoing nonstop and opening K7s for "value" in the co are not winning vs the fish.
Bovada is anonymous. U can't compare it to Stars, where you have history.

And I guarantee the games at Stars are not as fishy since its general consensus that games at STars are harder than most

If u haven't played anonymous poker on Bovada u can't really understand adjustments u can make

Btw my stats are like 22/18. But in position I play a lot of hands, and I hardly play hands OOP

But like I said before if you think u are right then whatever. But it should be obvious games at Stars which are the hardest, and games at Bovada Which are obviously the softest still play different.

On Bovada utg limp, utg+1 limp, CO fold, button raise, SB fold, BB call, UTG call, utg+1 fold. I know for a fact hands at Stars not this passive. I know this bc even on America's Cardroom games are no where near this passive. Bovada is different than any other site

But whatever. Idc if u or anyone else believe me. Graphs talk bull **** walks

Last edited by LoudPacquiao; 01-01-2015 at 12:07 PM.
01-01-2015 , 12:14 PM
i dont play on stars and 22/18 is extremely nitty and is very far from anything resembling "opening up your range to play more value hands vs fish"

there's very very little difference in your stats and his. It probably all comes from flatting the blinds a bit more than he does.

40% cbetting ftw
01-01-2015 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
i dont play on stars and 22/18 is extremely nitty and is very far from anything resembling "opening up your range to play more value hands vs fish"

there's very very little difference in your stats and his. It probably all comes from flatting the blinds a bit more than he does.

40% cbetting ftw
I'm not super loose. I just play lots of hand in late position. Its anonymous poker. Only so aggro you can be. But I will open K7s in CO if there are fish in blinds, bc regs will just fold and I end up IP with a hand ahead of the fish range. The rest is just board textures, that will decide if I cbet or whatever

Posistion is key. Also I don't look at absolute value of my hands. Its relative. It all depends on who acted before me and who is left to act. That determines my actions
01-01-2015 , 06:12 PM
December Graph:



Very up and down month, but eventually recovered and was profitable. Made like 3.50 an hour or something along those lines and played 20/14. I paid 618.52 in rake over 9.2k hands and had a .9 bb/100 win rate lol.

Graph for the Year:



10 dollar/hr winrate across various levels and I played over 81k hands. 4bb/100 win rate. Most of my profit came from the Regular tables where I had a 6.8bb/100 win rate across 50-100 NL. Most of my yearly profit came in November where I won almost 1700.

2015 New Year's Resolutions:

Eat better/lose weight aiming for 10-15 lbs.
Make better use of my time, no more wasting time just surfing the web. If I'm online I'm playing poker or doing something productive.
Socialize/meet new people
Find a better job -Probably will get fired on Monday due to me having an argument with my manager on Tuesday, but even if I stay I don't really like my job at all and I'm pretty under paid for a person with my qualifications.
Less tilt while playing poker.
01-02-2015 , 01:57 AM
Start: 4091.99
End: 4285.82
Profit: 193.83

First session of the New Year was great. Although one particular villain ran real hot against me, the other tables were good for me.
01-03-2015 , 02:33 AM
Start: 4285.82
End: 4192.71
Loss: -(93.11)

2nd Session not as successful. Ran really bad. Lost 2 flips, the donks run so good hitting crap with 23off and T7 off, OOP from the blinds. I wish I can hit like that with junk.
01-04-2015 , 01:55 AM
Start: 4192.71
-2.20 MTT
End: 3845.10
Loss: -(345.41)

Why do the ****ing idiots run so goood against me? So ****ing annoying. They play a hand ******ed, they get rewarded. I play one hand ******ed, and I get **** turns and rivers. I dominate them, they get bailed out on the river. They call while dominated they hit their ****ing card. Unbelievably tilting. Also played a 2 dollar donkament AK <<A6 after A6 limps and calls my 10bb shove. 6 on flop. MBFN!
01-04-2015 , 05:17 AM
I recommend you read the mental game of poker. You have tilt issues.
01-04-2015 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I recommend you read the mental game of poker. You have tilt issues.
Tommy Angelo's stuff is also really good.
01-05-2015 , 01:20 AM
Start: 3845.10
End: 3858.53
Profit: 13.43

Damn played my ass off. Started off bad losing 2 BI's of course my AA gets cracked. But I buckled down and played well and managed to grind a small profit.
01-05-2015 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I recommend you read the mental game of poker. You have tilt issues.
+1

Good discipline and control is key. GL
01-05-2015 , 01:15 PM
Yea, I need to work on tilt issues. I've been getting frustrated easily.
01-06-2015 , 02:02 AM
Took the night off, felt tired and wanted to study sessions and watch some videos.
01-07-2015 , 01:44 AM
Start: 3858.53
End: 3642.94
Loss: -(215.59)

Yea another frustrating night. Triple barrel bluffed that didn't work. Got good tables but no action with premiums while the nits got action with their premiums. Idiots hitting with junk, the usual. Just really frustrated right now and not coming from a good place either emotionally or personally right now. My job is really pissing me off/depressing right now and I'm having a quarter life crisis (third-life crisis?). I am not sure what to do anymore, I was hoping a winning poker session would cheer me up but I lost and made my mood worse. I'm not sure what will make me happy right now and that's the biggest issue in my life. I would like to think a better job with better pay would do, but I don't even know anymore. I feel like I'm stuck with no way to make my situation better. Anyways, I guess that's enough venting for tonight. I probably will take some time off from playing, not playing my best and this downswing has been pretty depressing.
01-07-2015 , 01:56 AM
On a pretty sick downswing myself, same sort of emotions going on. Usually beers help, singing in the car when driving helps, looking back at bomb ass crushing months works, and the good ole phrase "This too shall pass" helps. Also, getting a nice haircut/wearing button ups and feeling like you look good helps (regardless of if it's the truth

Either way man, in a year this stuff won't be an issue and you'll have it figured out. Till then, keep your head up.
01-07-2015 , 03:35 AM
This is a good place to vent as every one of us has felt like you do. Just try and get a little perspective, you are actually not even in a downswing but purely a breakeven stretch (don't get me wrong these are equally painful and I get it especially because this one is going on month two for you).

Another piece of perspective. I took your bb/100 from your year end and rounded to 7bb/100. I put that into a variance calculator (PM me if you don't know what site I am talking about) and put it for 120,000 hands, which at 10k hands per month seems about right working full time. I also used a standard deviation of 80 (yours might be higher or lower but should be around there).

Results of the 20 different samples with a 7bb/100 winrate @120,000 hands.
There was a sample that the player lost! That is a 7bb/100 winner having a losing YEAR! There were a couple samples where the player only one ~2500-3500 BBs.

If you look at the biggest downswings over a million hands with that winrate you should still have DOWNSWINGS of 10 or more buy ins that I counted like 20 times.

What you are going thru FEELS way worse than what is actually happening, but because we play on bovada and cannot get in a lot of hands these stretches are just that much more grueling. I'm right there with you and have been basically breakeven for as long as you, but I keep working on my game, watching videos, reviewing hands with flopzilla, looking at HHs in HEM and trying to pick up patterns, and with time I know this time we only make me a better poker player. If you are not doing the studying and only feeling entitled to win because you are better than most this game will only beat you down till you give up. There is always improvements you can make.

I get it, I know the feeling you are feeling and have been exactly in the place you are. I can say now I found my way out and have a career that I love that is not poker and makes playing this game a lot more fun when you do not depend on the $$$. It took three years and a masters degree to get here, but you will find your way just like Malefiicus said.

Keep your head up and be proud of who you are. Look up some videos of people who truly deserve to complain and don't, or find videos of people who have it way worse and don't feel sorry for themselves. Those types of things help me see I really have it good and very lucky for my life and things could be way worse. You will be amazing at how much more mentally tough you will be after playing this wicked game for years. It will turn around, until then just take a breath and maybe a break to re-group.

Good luck!
01-07-2015 , 12:11 PM
Yea, it's pretty sick the downswings of a poker player than have. I saw a graph of hypothetical ROI graphs of a great online mtt player and it was sickening. USAplayer, what do you do now? I'm really looking into a career change.
01-07-2015 , 12:19 PM
Sorry you are going through this. One thing is NEVER play if your mood isn't right. And don't play hoping that winning will make your day better. That is a recipe for tilt.
01-07-2015 , 12:55 PM
As crazy/stupid as it sounds, I feel playing poker is a way to improve my current situation.
01-07-2015 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
Yea, it's pretty sick the downswings of a poker player than have. I saw a graph of hypothetical ROI graphs of a great online mtt player and it was sickening. USAplayer, what do you do now? I'm really looking into a career change.
I will PM you.

Last edited by usapokerplayer; 01-07-2015 at 01:58 PM. Reason: Decided to PM instead
01-07-2015 , 02:03 PM
you should switch to an american site with rb. Would be much easier for your type to play knowing you're making X$/hr with rakeback and not worrying about table winnings(just trying to b/e or better longterm)
01-07-2015 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
you should switch to an american site with rb. Would be much easier for your type to play knowing you're making X$/hr with rakeback and not worrying about table winnings(just trying to b/e or better longterm)
The only rakeback providing American facing site now that is not in a relegated state that I know of is WPN (True, ACR, BCP etc.) and Equity Poker Network (Full Flush). WPN is full of regs due to the allowance of HUDs, and EPN doesn't have very much traffic. I am hoping California will legalize online poker in the near future as I've seen video of the play on NJ sites and it's like pre Black Friday.

      
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