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09-12-2014 , 07:56 PM
Hey guys,

i thought id post a blog to keep me motivated and maybe get to know some other players. One of the main problems I try to overcome is the fear of moving up stakes which i always had huge problems with.

I will only play the zoom 6max zoom tables and start at rock bottom (ive already played some hands).

Here is my status so far and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

This is nl2 Zoom only .


Last edited by notanit; 09-12-2014 at 08:07 PM.
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09-12-2014 , 08:35 PM
if you don't move up you'll never make any significant money, I'd move up everytime I have 30 buy ins for a given stake until you reach a limit you can make a living from at least

best of luck, cute red line
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09-13-2014 , 12:48 AM
Hey, good luck. Personally think you should play regular 6max though. I find it's hard to focus on playing solid on zoom, especially 4tabling... If found I sometimes even forget to look at my HUD due to the pace
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09-13-2014 , 02:48 AM
Agreed with above post.

I play regular 6max after switching from zoom and my results have been much better. You'll find once you move up the stakes that making reads and looking at your HUD becomes much harder, value the time your given and your results should continue to up.
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09-13-2014 , 03:45 AM
what is this? 2k? on nl2 zoom for 15k handS?
some joke?
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09-13-2014 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by shinamobabi1
Hey, good luck. Personally think you should play regular 6max though. I find it's hard to focus on playing solid on zoom, especially 4tabling... If found I sometimes even forget to look at my HUD due to the pace
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Originally Posted by Krano21
Agreed with above post.

I play regular 6max after switching from zoom and my results have been much better. You'll find once you move up the stakes that making reads and looking at your HUD becomes much harder, value the time your given and your results should continue to up.

I will keep that in mind and start mixing in 6max aswell. At the moment im only playing 2-3 zoom tables at a time and dont plan on adding annother one because i dont feel comfortable.


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Originally Posted by Vai123
what is this? 2k? on nl2 zoom for 15k handS?
some joke?

What do you mean? The y-axis is big blinds not $.



Here is yesterdays session and since i have to work today i will probably only be able to play about 1k hands which i will update later.


I tried to play 2k hands as chill as possible since i sometimes have some trouble with tilt (not too bad), im very happy with the outcome.


Last edited by notanit; 09-13-2014 at 07:22 AM.
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09-13-2014 , 06:27 PM
oh
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12-09-2014 , 01:27 AM
Hey guys,

i decided to do a little update and to update this thread more regularly since i have continued playing and i am working on my game pretty hard. My results have been ok, but i have huge trouble in some spots.

Here are my results for nl2; nl5 and nl10 so far (just shooting nl10 just yet)

Nl2:



Nl5:



And some sick nl10 shots:






As you can see my winrate is shrinking quite considerably but i hope this will get better with more work in the future (im running quite a lot above ev aswell).


I would like to finish this with a hand i had some trouble with and im wondering how you guys would structure your ranges in this spot/ with this hand:



    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33242311

    BTN: $5.90 (118 bb)
    SB: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
    BB: $14.76 (295.2 bb)
    UTG: $7.41 (148.2 bb)
    Hero (MP): $5 (100 bb)
    CO: $5.33 (106.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q K
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.37) J 7 T (2 players)
    Spoiler:
    Results: $0.37 pot
    Final Board: J 7 T
    BTN mucked and lost (-$0.15 net)
    Hero mucked Q K and lost (-$0.15 net)



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    What should we do on this flop (i think i ****ed up the convert since i tinkered with the hh to not spoil what happened)


    Thank you very much for your attention, I intent to write here pretty much every day and share my results.
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    12-09-2014 , 01:41 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Vai123
    what is this? 2k? on nl2 zoom for 15k handS?
    some joke?
    Yes he's quite the grinder
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    12-09-2014 , 02:00 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by notanit
    [converted_hand]
    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33242311

    BTN: $5.90 (118 bb)
    SB: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
    BB: $14.76 (295.2 bb)
    UTG: $7.41 (148.2 bb)
    Hero (MP): $5 (100 bb)
    CO: $5.33 (106.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q K
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.37) J 7 T (2 players)
    Spoiler:
    Results: $0.37 pot
    Final Board: J 7 T
    BTN mucked and lost (-$0.15 net)
    Hero mucked Q K and lost (-$0.15 net)



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    I think I would cbet this flop big with my whole continuation range (overpairs? depending on villan, 2pr+ for value and also for protection) as it's a wet board and you have two overs and are open-ended. On the other hand it's common to get raised on this type of flop texture so it's a tricky spot. What were the villain's stats/reads? I don't think it's a mistake to check here against laggy opponents who raise bluffs and draws on this type of board
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    12-09-2014 , 02:13 AM
    I had about 100 hands from villain and he played 35/19 with 9% 3bet.

    I check/called btw. I didnt think i had enough equity to cr/ship when i was playing even though i now think i might have. I also think checking this flop very likely shows a lot of weakness on my limit (and gets attacked often), and thats why i would prefer a c/r with the backdoor flush there.
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    12-09-2014 , 03:17 AM
    Hey man, hope you keep on crushing. Don't let moving up the limits change your game, you should think about big blinds you are playing with not $, maybe that will help you.
    Will be following, good luck and keep on crushing!
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    12-09-2014 , 12:00 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FuzzingIrish
    Hey man, hope you keep on crushing. Don't let moving up the limits change your game, you should think about big blinds you are playing with not $, maybe that will help you.
    Will be following, good luck and keep on crushing!
    Thanks man, i appreciate it!
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    12-10-2014 , 03:11 PM
    Little update. I played about 2,5k hands last 2 days and it went ok (i still run above ev a lot).




    I still have to work today so there wont be much more playing until tomorrow.

    One of the big issues I noticed is my button winrate! I watched a couple of videos on the topic and it seems I must be playing terrible from the button. Any advice would be very much appreciated!

    Here are some of my stats/graphs. This is all nl5 (zoom/regular).








    Any advice to play better from the button would be VERY appreciated! I opened 2-2,5bb from button for all these hands.
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    12-14-2014 , 11:26 PM
    Hey guys,

    ive continued to play nl10 and had my first positive session today so the downwards spiral seems to be stopped at least for today, which im very happy about.


    Only 10 stacks down on nl10 for now.



    Not too much to talk about except maybe one hand. Villain is unkown for this hand.





      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33387231

      BTN: $10.51 (105.1 bb)
      SB: $18.79 (187.9 bb)
      BB: $13.80 (138 bb)
      UTG: $14.89 (148.9 bb)
      Hero (MP): $10.10 (101 bb)
      CO: $15.78 (157.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO raises to $1.08, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.78

      Flop: ($2.31) K A 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $1.16, Hero calls $1.16

      Turn: ($4.63) 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks

      River: ($4.63) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.94, CO raises to $13.54 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.92 and is all-in




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      12-15-2014 , 04:50 AM
      Can't be calling otr. You play a shorty style or what? The **** does your red line look like that.
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      01-04-2015 , 09:07 PM
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      Can't be calling otr. You play a shorty style or what? The **** does your red line look like that.
      No im playing fullstacked 100bb mostly (zoom/regular sh).


      Im still trying to figure out the right way and swap styles from day to day (but im definetly sure i barreled way too much).

      Here are some of the results.

      nl10 overall (zoom/regular sh):




      And nl10 today (my first 3 digit day).

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      01-05-2015 , 01:32 AM
      You have interesting graphs. it seems 90% of winners at micro stakes have the split and red (negative) blue (positive) lines because they just play straight forward ABC poker and almost never get to showdown without strength. IMO this is incredibly boring and I'd venture to guess these are the players that struggle at higher stakes because they are stuck in ABC mode and never figured out (partly due to not being forced to) the intricacies of getting folds which requires stronger hand reading, psychology, and general poker ability.

      Consistently my red/blue lines have been similar to yours. A lot of people say red/blue lines don't matter...but I think they are actually very interesting and can say a lot about your play. Of course only so much of it can be controlled by your style as a certain amount is just the consequence of the aggregate tendencies of your opponents. Based on your graphs, I'd be very surprised if you weren't immediately profitable at higher stakes. In fact, I think you could have a higher win rate at higher stakes because it is very hard to have such a good balance between red/blue lines at micros like you do.

      Maybe your graphs are more normal for Zoom though because people tend to be tighter and wait for premiums, and you're just really good at picking up all the small/medium pots they pass on waiting for easy decisions. What percentage of zoom and regular do you think you play?
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      01-05-2015 , 03:50 AM
      I played most of the first hands on zoom (the first 95k) but im now switching to regular tables, because i believe they are more profitable.

      I very much agree that its easier on zoom to have a better redline, because most of the regular tables are way more loose passive (with decent table selection) and it just makes more sense to barrel more value heavy and to 3betbluff less.
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      01-05-2015 , 03:58 AM
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      Originally Posted by Nick_AA
      You have interesting graphs. it seems 90% of winners at micro stakes have the split and red (negative) blue (positive) lines because they just play straight forward ABC poker and almost never get to showdown without strength. IMO this is incredibly boring and I'd venture to guess these are the players that struggle at higher stakes because they are stuck in ABC mode and never figured out (partly due to not being forced to) the intricacies of getting folds which requires stronger hand reading, psychology, and general poker ability.
      Boring maybe. But FAT value does more than having your red line up at NL2 up to NL10. Even at higher levels you gotta be very good at value betting When a guy will move up he will/should notice he needs to adjust his game. Nothing wrong with having blue line high as **** at nl2 while having the red line a little bit under 0.
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      01-05-2015 , 12:54 PM
      I agree value betting is important. My line of thinking is that I don't care too much about fat value at micro stakes where fat value means 5-10 more bbs (ie: extra 60 cents) unless it translates to fat value at the high levels. I don't think ABC poker at micros translates to fat value at higher levels, but I do think the ability to have a near 0 or positive redline at micros would indicate an easier transition from micros to low/mid stakes. That's my point, I could be wrong, just seems that way to me.
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      01-05-2015 , 09:30 PM
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      Originally Posted by Nick_AA
      I agree value betting is important. My line of thinking is that I don't care too much about fat value at micro stakes where fat value means 5-10 more bbs (ie: extra 60 cents) unless it translates to fat value at the high levels. I don't think ABC poker at micros translates to fat value at higher levels, but I do think the ability to have a near 0 or positive redline at micros would indicate an easier transition from micros to low/mid stakes. That's my point, I could be wrong, just seems that way to me.
      The flat red line you see higher up is because at those limits you're having to run multi street bluffs far more often than is recommended at micros. At the micros you have a lot of stations that will call down with 3rd pair whereas higher up people are capable of folding. Perfectly okay and probably correct to have a downward red line at micros but when its going very far down there are obvious (and sometimes not so obvious) leaks that need to be worked on.
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      01-28-2015 , 09:18 PM
      Hey guys,

      im trying to play 3k hands every day for the next three days to up my volume. I try to play only regular nl10 sh with maximum table selection. Ive been slacking a bit in january because i have been at home.

      Here is the graph of today.



      I played 6-8 tables for the most part.
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      01-30-2015 , 10:33 AM
      Played the second day and ran into a couple of ugly setups and probably played some really stupid hands aswell. I am not concerned about the outcome since i feel i have gotten the good end of variance for the last couple of weeks.




      Here is one of those funny hands. You can probably guess what sb had.

      Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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      BB: $16.26 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 21, 3B: 8, AF: 2,2, Hands: 1052
      UTG: $16.95 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 2,2, Hands: 11099
      MP: $10.05 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 17, 3B: 9, AF: 9,0, Hands: 135
      CO: $10.15 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 5, AF: 1,2, Hands: 122
      Hero (BTN): $16.71 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 2,6, Hands: 144736
      SB: $10.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 9, AF: 3,4, Hands: 4078

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with A 7
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75

      Flop: ($2.10) A 5 7 (2 players)
      SB bets $0.90, Hero raises to $2.10, SB calls $1.20

      Turn: ($6.30) 7 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.70, SB calls $1.70

      River: ($9.70) 9 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $6.17, SB calls $5.20 all in
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      09-16-2015 , 11:31 PM
      Hey guys,

      I thought id update you on the progression of my journey so far. Im done with nl10 and ran quite a bit above EV. Overall my game has changed immensely since i started and it still does a lot.

      Here is the Graph:



      http://imgur.com/ufBdqWe


      I have started nl25 and am currently on a pretty insane heater so its hard to say where I actually stand.

      Here is the Graph:



      http://imgur.com/B8fDAb6

      Edit: Images are not showing for me and i dont know why.
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