Hi I have studied and grinded Over the years from a poor recreational, to bad reg, to professional. The bulk of my bankroll comes from 2/5 live where I have a 20+bb/hr win rate over 500 hours ytd(and an insanely good win rate last year in 2/5 which is what I mainly played). I also have a $250/hr win rate in 5/10 live and 10/10 live over 300 hours total. And, have a 2/5 online win rate of about 14bb/hr over 30k hands total in a very soft player pool. This is the first full year I have played professionally. I play nothing close to gto(although I do study it and understand it) and choose to play extremely exploitative and Uber lag to the max. I have been toying around with shot taking in bigger live games all the way up to 25/50 and I have decided to play 10/20 5 days/wk after reviewing some players pools and data I have collected from what I feel pretty safe to assume to be sufficient, consistent, and reliable(about 100 hours of data in this pool of 10/20 with a $870/hr win rate). Of course I donT think this is a sustainable win rate full time(although maybe who knows) but After collecting said data I do believe I can make 250k + annually. My goal after accumulating a big enough bankroll is to play big private games as I have made some pretty good connections through my travels. This will be my first time committing to grinding 10/20 full time consistently and am very excited about it. I want to track my journey on this thread and will check it from time to time. Please feel free to ask me any questions besides where I will be playing. I do not want to give up my player pool. Thanks.

Going okay about even since made the move in 2 weeks if play, playing 5 days wk. def not as smooth as I had hoped.

Played super late last night and got in a degen hand heads up.

25/50 11k eff

Bb is good reg

Sb opens to 125 with As9h
Bb 3b to 550
Sb 4b to 1500
Bb 5b! To 3200
Sb calls

Pot 6400
Flop 742s

V bets 800
Hero calls

Pot 8k
Turn 7s

V bets 1200
Hero calls

Pot 10.4k

River J

V checks

Hero tank jams

V folds



Other then the fact I’m just a ****ing sick degenerate and should never be in this spot and it was super late and I’m clearly punting. I don’t think I really ever get to this spot with worse lol. I never ever have a9o here ahahahahhaa. Just had some sick degen tingles and a feeling v was just always has qq or kk here. And I just have aa and jj here a ton and he’s gonna fold here way more then he should. Obviously if he knows I’m capable of having a9o here then it’s just a huge punt. And yea let’s just say up to this point I may have been stuck a lot lol. Anyways here’s the update. 2 weeks of maybe 10 sessions and a lot of volume and about even

Your winrates would make you one of the best players in the world, so either you're running insanely hot over these samples, not tracking your winrate correctly, or are FOS.

None of the numbers in this thread even begin to make sense lmao

i mean ive met florida live regs who play mostly 1k-5k who clear 200k a year and wouldn't beat lowstakes in row pools, it's mostly just about sitting around waiting for the good game to pop off.

If these numbers are true and accurate then you are clearly just running extremely hot over an extremely small sample. And yes your sample size is extremely small so it's really naïve to start making all these assumptions about what you can make at any level of the game. 500hrs is something like 15k hands of live poker so just understand that it's the equivalent of playing 7 online sessions. For live poker you really want to avoid making any assumptions about winrate until you get somewhere around the 1500-2000 hour mark and even still there will be quite a bit of variance that effects that sample. Nobody can tell you how much you can win if you move up in stake or if you can even win at all. My advice would be to just be honest with yourself about your results and always be humble about how good you actually are at the game... esp during this time where you don't have a decent sample to fall back on.

if you're capable of having A9o here your probably not going to be winning much in the long term... this is just a spaz on so many levels its actually sad

Update 130 more hours played in new pool. New total is +140k over 212 hours in new 10/20 player pool. +156k for the year.


Got in a interesting hand today

6k eff with V

Co open 60 H on btn 3b to 200, V in sb 4b with 700, co folds H calls

Pot 1480 flop 753hhd

v bets 500
h calls

Pot 2480 turn 3d

V bets 3500
H jams

Line is solver approved but against pool prolly not best ev. Although V is a good reg

That’s all for know.




That’s all for now.

These are true win rates although small sample size. Have lost a lot in bigger games this year and tournaments including plo so my net profit is much smaller then starting post suggests. I have updated my total net though in post above

You called a 5b with A9o vs a good reg? How on earth are you a professional lmao

Lol yes quite bad just a fun one to post. We were heads up deepish, it was getting late and he was getting ool so I decided to have fun with this one

Also obviously a punt preflop but if we ever bluff here I like the candidate we have aa here always we unblock his folds like tt-kk(I think most players fold everything here but aces) and we block aa. I don’t think we ever really get here with worse except maybe kqs but I like a9 way better as a bluff if we’re ever going to bluff this as played

What are your hole cards in the hand u posted? U did not include it.

Or he's one of the best players in the world.

Heads up it’s not that terrible. Unless they’re a weak player with a very tight value range and no bluffs.

What's with villain betting 1/8 pot on the flop and 1/7 pot on the turn? That seems pretty bizarre after the massive raising preflop.

QQ

Prolly scared about AA and KK although in these spots you can bet 10 percent pot at some freq I did run it through the solver

Got into a interesting hand last night really late Late 3 handed

Hero: Sb
V1: BB - LAG recreational
V2: btn(straddle) very drunk loose passive recreational

Preflop I limp 20 since I am first to act and these button straddles are super unique spots. In games where people are being aggressive I tend to limp/raise a depolarized linear range. In this situation the btn is pretty passive so I would generally just open all value since he is just gonna check most situations. If he ever raises over the limps its probably gonna be %10 +. In this spot I decided to limp because bb is a borderline maniac who was probably opening 50% + hands from any position. Now from the button 3 handed that is probably fine to open but def not from the blinds against a button straddle where you’re gonna be oop to btn defending his straddle at a high freq, its way too loose. So anyways he raises to 120 and the button 3b to 370 yup you guessed it I have AA and I 4b to 1k then to my disbelief bb makes it 2400 and btn jams his eff stack for 3800. I tank for 30 seconds and elect to min click to 5200 (I am about 11k eff to bb). I would almost certainly always just call with AA to a 6b agaisnt any reg and just in general too but In this unique spot there would be no incentive to bluff into a dry side pot with anything but very strong hands since it is pretty obvious this passive recreational who has 5b jammed has aa or kk(obviously prolly kk since I have aa). Anyways bb folds and shows TT and the runout is TT8Q king on river LOL. V2 starts walking away on turn then sees river and starts squealing in joy runs back to table flips KK in utter joy smiling from
cheek to cheek and celebrating LOL and I lose the 10k pot.

Another interesting spot earlier last night

In this hand V on btn is a good lag pro who has been squeezing and 3b way too light getting ool taking advantage of all the recreational limps and loose cold calls in this game taking down dead money. So when he 3b to 225 over a open and cold call then the sb cold calls the 3b LOL I make it 1k with QQ out of the bb 3700 eff. He 5b jams and I am never folding here because he is more then capable. He has AKo

Did you win the QQ vs AK flip?

Enjoying the thread, if you could format your HHs in a more structured format, would make reading them more enjoyable. I might just be a lazy reading nit though! Cheers

I lost the flip. Glad you’re enjoying! And sorry I suck at HH. hourly been nearly cut in half after about 200 more hours to $450/hr in new pool. Ran really good in a bigger private game though which was cool. +142k/yr. That’s all the updates for now

Update 2022 results

190k total profit
$300/hr in new 10/20 pool
$156/hr including all games played
About 1200 hours total played

Peak bankroll 250k. Took some very aggressive 50/100 shots bankroll down to 120k(after years worth of living expenses of traveling and rent food ect). Back to 10/20 net profit from start of thread 107k. Something to note my tournament interest has sparked.
Good luck at the tables.

so you dusted off 100k in 3 months? And you still commutatively have 6 months or so lifetime experience compared to the average grinder, you're well within the danger zone of being able to quickly go busto if you arent careful. I mean one more 'downswing' like that and you'll be done by the summer. With 120k just play 2/5 and see what you can really accomplish.

Subbed… moar updates needed!

This is a complete omc advice, I'm well aware of the importance of non-degen brm for full time pros, but playing 2/5 as a pro with 24k bb bankroll is madness. I don't know the skill level of op and judging by the A9o hand he is capable of playing irresponsibly, but still 30 bis should be enough as long as he's prepared to move down quickly if things went wrong. In the usual soft life games anything more than 50 bis is leaving serious money on the tables. Ofc playing presumably deep 50/100 regularly from 250k br is dumb too, but you need to take a reasonable amount of risk.