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08-08-2014 , 01:07 PM
its easy for the people who say its easy.

thats the whole point, for a majority of the genereal population poker for a living is not a thing they can do. For the people who naturally have the qualities needed its not hard (which is alot of people who post on 2p2), as aesah says takes 10 hours to be +ev at a low stakes table.

take a look at daniel negranue and tell me that a guy with that type of personally finds being a poker pro hard
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08-08-2014 , 02:08 PM
In b4 Aesah becomes a full time streamer
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08-08-2014 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LifeWithFaceCards
Enjoying poker has nothing to do with falling into these traps. Live poker is surrounded by a culture of degenerate gambling. It is incredibly easy to start booking sports bets at the table to pass the time. It is really easy for people to fire a bet on pai gow or blackjack that seems really small and insignificant but is actually 5x their hourly. It is really easy to start drinking at the table because the fish wants to buy you a beer. In fact, the younger you are, the easier it is to start doing these things and develop bad habits. You are more impressionable, want to get along with people more, etc.

For me, avoiding these things is easy, but I am a little older, a lot smarter than i was at 23 or 24, and I have the benefit of having a wife and child at home to keep me anchored and give me something to work for. But to say it's easy to avoid these things after a brutally tough downswing (or a great upswing when you feel invincible) or a super long day, is just naive. As i've said, these things are not my problem. But HEAPS of people do have these problems. Simply writing it off as easy to avoid is silly. Every poker room is filled with a lot of staked poker "pros" and washed up players deep in makeup for a reason.




This is very, very wrong. It sounds crazy, but poker is really hard physically. I am a very active, fit person and nothing beats up my body more than sitting in a terrible poker room chair for 14 hours straight. My knees and back ache something terrible after a session. And then you have to go in the next day and do it again.

And if you don't find poker mentally tiring, well, you aren't working hard enough and you hourly is nowhere close to what it could be.
I love the rebuttal and you make really legitimate points. Poker is part of a degenerate gambling culture and when you are young and impressionable, its very easy to get sucked into it. God knows I have had my fair share of struggle, win or lose at poker, and then go up and play pai gow or blackjack because I've built up stress and felt I needed some release.

I am not writing off how being a live pro is oh so easy. It is difficult, and yes, being stationary for 12 hours, one might find their body aching when they finally get up and then dread the thought that they need to do it again the next day.

But I think some of the most INSANE feats testing human potential is also done in poker. People playing 40something-50something hours in a single session is hardly that surprising to me. As you know, the world record of a single session is 115hours. People do inspiring things, lockdown poker for 72hours or 96hours, or putting in 500K hands per month: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...hread-1383989/

I just think the level that people can reach in poker is mind boggling and it kind of puts putting in a measly 35-40hours a week into perspective.
I have an interest in computer programming but I am a total newbie. People hold hackathons where programmers get together and code for 24hours straight, I think that's amazing but perhaps not that difficult if you are on the inside of that field. I've been playing poker for awhile now, there is still no way I am ever putting in 500K hands inside of a single month. I can not play poker for anymore than 48 hours because I think I will literally DIE.

The desire to accomplish something, I think the headspace you are in matters a LOT. If you are in the wrong headspace, anything can seem like an insurmountable barrier. 40hours of poker a week? Very hard. Trying to play your A game? Hard. Making money on a Saturday night at 1/2? Hard. Getting out of bed? Hard.

I mean c'mon, going from near 500lbs and cutting off 300lbs of fat in a year is hard. Having no actual arms, being a female mom, and becoming a body builder and winning bodybuilding tournaments is hard. Having no metabolism, anything you eat just doesn't stick to your body because you have a genetic disease, yet you've become a motivational speaker and wrote several books is hard. Being a professional poker player? That's a piece of cake compared to those. Easier by a metric mile.
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08-08-2014 , 11:15 PM
None of those are required of any typical job description though. I mean "easy" and "hard" are relative, I could say doing all those things is are piece of cake compared to swimming across the Atlantic Ocean, solving the Riemann hypothesis, or killing a healthy adult grizzly bear by beating it to death using only your erection
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08-09-2014 , 06:02 PM
Never have played table games.... In 5 years.... Easy.

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08-09-2014 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
or killing a healthy adult grizzly bear by beating it to death using only your erection
Depends on the bear IMO
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08-09-2014 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Depends on the erection IMO
FYP
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08-09-2014 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by isteal
Never have played table games.... In 5 years.... Easy.

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ive never played table games in my life beat that
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08-10-2014 , 01:05 AM
Condo just about done?
Joining us shortly for some PLO in sunny San Diego?
Maybe we can get a OE or HO game going regularly at 20/40+.
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08-11-2014 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
Top 50 milestone post for 500k views+ pooh bah!:

So here's a summary of some of the more significant posts throughout the thread. It's still pretty damn TLDR so I also made a "best of" sub-compilation within the compilation. For me personally it's interesting to see how I've changed (each section is mostly chronological), definitely my levels of enthusiasm/optimism on poker has been a constant ebb and flow. Some of the older posts I don't even agree with anymore, but that's to be expected. Enjoy!

Best of:
1. My drunken life summary. My personal favorite post.

2. Feel good story about shot-taking and winning $17k in 1 day.

3. Essay on random life perspectives. With pictures!

4. Motivational essay. With pictures!

5. Ramble post about appreciating life. With pictures!

6. A collection of short stories I wrote on Christmas day of 2013.

7. Transcript of a conversation with a friend. If you're still trying to "figure out" live poker, this is for you.

8. Very short toy game/poker theory post. IMO this is the single best poker strategy post in the entire thread to help smart players think on a deeper level. Study carefully.

9. Beginners guide to PLO for NLHE players. My most popular post.

Random live poker tips + misc. stuff that barely didn't make the "best of" cut:
10. Where I explain my monetary situation at the start of my journey. I'm such a kid lol (I still like minigolf, laser tag, and waterparks.)

11. Great fictional example of why everyone thinks they run bad. Also the first time my thread hit 5 stars.

12. My first paid blog post about why live poker rocks. I think it turned out well.

13. Second paid blog about moving up in stakes.

14. Third paid blog post about skills needed for live poker.

15. My "Concept of the Week" contribution to 2+2 that my undertitle comes from. It's about turning made hands into bluffs.

16. A good breakdown of an EV calculation. PLO hand is used as an example but concepts apply to all poker.

17. Dark side of poker story about bankrupting a whale. Written Hollywood style.

18. Random Los Angeles pics.

19. "Chip" porn from Tunica "5-5" game.

20. Random Hong Kong pics.

Session reports/poker strategy tidbits:

21. Session report right after 2+2 came back from being hacked, so multiple session reports from 1/3 in St. Louis with several very interesting hands including one from my first 5/10 shot.

22. First session where I recorded all hands I played with strategy analysis. Nothing too advanced.

23. Yet another session of a lot of recorded hands with analysis, again nothing too advanced.

24. Some food for thought on exploitable ranges/lines- the specific example used is c/r'ing an A-high board vs. a preflop 3-bettor.

25. A pretty good NLHE hand history analysis for ranging a recreational player on the river.

27. Wowowow I completely forgot about this strategy teaser that I never got around to posting (due to a life tilt episode right after). It still remains a ridiculously common spot where 95%+ of 5/10 and lower players are extremely exploitable. I won't give away this info for free anymore though sorry (not so subtle coaching plug). Your money back if you disagree of course.

28. AIPF equities for PLO vs. a blind hand. Words nor tears cannot express how sad I am that it hasn't really been relevant to me anymore. I miss 2013.

29. A good PLO hand history analysis that I later used in a free podcast for Crushlivepoker.

30. Solid table selection guide, still very relevant.

31. First Big O session I've ever played. The last hand is epic.

32. My first day in Macau. Some pretty good (albeit rusty) NLHE analysis and the 1st session out of 2 in of my biggest winning day of all time.

33. A detailed example of me studying and improving my own game.

34. So I did a series of "Christmas gift" free coaching hands, 3 for NLHE then 3 for PLO. Heres one of the PLO ones.

35. Two examples of me crushing live intangibles.

36. List of various skills that live poker pros need to be self-aware of, some ideas for stuff you can practice/study in addition to poker strategy.

Funny stories:
37. Short story about the electronic tables + the sunglasses douche.

38. Summary of my first experience with limit poker + old Aesah berating fish (not in person of course).

39. Short post about name calling in poker as perceived by non-poker players.

40. Some stories from the grand opening of Horseshoe Cleveland.

41. Very troll graph I made of my projected poker winnings before I actually started playing poker.

43. One of the funniest poker sessions of my career, antics of 1/3 NLHE players.

44. Dream I had about Texas Hold One, and some commentary on a method to gauge how lucky you feel.

45. OK if I ever said any other hand was the most lol-worthy hand of poker I ever played, I lied. It's this one.

46. Deal making in cash games.

47. "No ma'am, I haven't seen your husband".

48. How much info can you get from 1 fold?

49. This poor kid's own uncle took his bankroll, wtf.

50. Rumors of Commerce's 300-600 game have been greatly exaggerated.

A few coaching references:
StGilmore
Bugsy
B
machi5
LotGrinder
Gordon806
Some real gold in here
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08-11-2014 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
None of those are required of any typical job description though. I mean "easy" and "hard" are relative, I could say doing all those things is are piece of cake compared to swimming across the Atlantic Ocean, solving the Riemann hypothesis, or killing a healthy adult grizzly bear by beating it to death using only your erection
The real question is why would you have a boner in that moment?

The answer:

Spoiler:
Fear Boner!
#TheLeague
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08-11-2014 , 05:29 AM
Playing poker for a living is damn hard work. Almost everyone thinks they have an edge and blame losses to variance. I do think the lifestyle is good and hence so many 20 somethings want to play it for a living.
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08-12-2014 , 04:47 AM
Yea, its a bit relative though but I can totally see someone who has been in the marines or an athlete training for the olympics or a marathon runner, who also happen to have the nerdy skillset of kids from Washington U needed to beat poker, just being able to totally crush it and totally dust off their shoulders.

To most grinders who have sort of gotten lazy via the poker culture, I just think their willpower in anything is as breakable as a twig.
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08-12-2014 , 08:20 AM
great thread!

Probably been said, but how many losing months have you had since you started playing pro?
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08-12-2014 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
The real question is why would you have a boner in that moment?

The answer:

Spoiler:
Fear Boner!
#TheLeague
He's Asian, his erection isn't that big. Also Love the league. #murderboner
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08-12-2014 , 02:02 PM
caught a free one month subscription to crush live poker, thanks aesah. watched the intro PLO video, thought it was great. I'm pretty new to PLO but have been a poker pro for 9 to 10 years so I like to think my poker reasonings are fairly solid, although most of my experience is mtt and sng.

anyway, I found myself in large agreement with you when it came to hand selection and agreed with most of your post flop commentary as well. I know I learned some things though, great introductory PLO video, looking forward to more, you did a great job.
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09-03-2014 , 02:47 PM
pirates don't wear eyepatches because they are missing an eye, but so they can just shift the patch over when they go below deck without waiting for their eyes to adjust

(someone told me it's been too long since I wrote something interesting in my thread)
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09-03-2014 , 02:54 PM
A lot of them were legit missing eyes though.
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09-03-2014 , 02:59 PM
More interesting facts please!
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09-03-2014 , 03:41 PM
I always wondered why so many Pirates lost eyes. My entire outlook om life has now changed
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09-03-2014 , 06:16 PM
Wait... do your pupils adjust independently?
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09-03-2014 , 06:38 PM
Well if the one under the patch remains dilated i imagine it sees in the dark better right away than the other one?

This is where z needs to step in
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09-03-2014 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowball2
Well if the one under the patch remains dilated i imagine it sees in the dark better right away than the other one?

This is where z needs to step in
Um, OK......


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Originally Posted by bip!
Wait... do your pupils adjust independently?
Lol wat?

I....guess I can pontificate if need be. Binocular vision ftw!!!

Wait, bip don't wear glasses do he?
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09-03-2014 , 07:25 PM
Guess Z needs it spelled out better... Pretty sure your pupils dilate/constrict together - covering one with a patch while topside would accomplish zip/zero/nada
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