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01-26-2022 , 05:53 AM
I'd just check turn
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01-26-2022 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I'd just check turn
Given that turn goes check/check and river goes check/bet/raise-big, would you call?
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01-26-2022 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Given that turn goes check/check and river goes check/bet/raise-big, would you call?
at 10nl no
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01-27-2022 , 04:02 AM
Not too sure about this bluff:

I open $0.30 with J J from CO
BB 3-bets to $0.95
I call

Flop($1.83) 7 K Q
BB bets $1.37
I call

Turn($4.35) 7 K Q Q
BB checks
I check

River($4.35) 7 K Q Q K
BB checks
I bet $2.93

Spoiler:
BB folds


I kind of suspect this player has a suited ace a lot of the time and he didn't seem to be much of a trapper. Maybe better to bluff with busted flush draw or lower pair. I do block KJs and QJs, but then again I also block AJ and JTs. There is no guarantee that ace high folds since I could be perceived to bluff a flush draw, but I thought he would so I did. Maybe checking may have been better though since my play requires ace high to fold often enough in order to be better than checking.
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01-27-2022 , 06:15 AM
I wonder if we check here and win vs hands like TT 99 that villain doesn't always bluff. Our J hi hands may in practice have some showdown here?

Also, blocking AJ seems decent, but if we want to be technical about it I feel like we should also want Jd in our hand. It seems clear that we should pick JdJh and JdJs before any others (Jc is obviously the worst to have, our combo is in the middle).

Both of those factors considered, I would probably not bluff this specific combo.
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01-27-2022 , 07:01 AM
I don't really expect many AX to fold, would just check river again with J high.
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01-29-2022 , 07:57 AM
A glorious thing happened today:

I opened $0.30 with K J in CO
BU calls

effective stacks are at $21.24

Flop($0.71) Q T 5
I bet $0.53
BU calls

Turn($1.69) Q T 5 8
I bet $1.27
BU calls

River($4.03) Q T 5 8 9
I check
BU overbets to $5.78
I jam all-in for for $19.14
BU snap calls

Spoiler:
BU shows T 9, I scoop the pot


I almost didn't check the river, but then I was like "you know what, trap. I've gotta trap sometimes." If I bet, sometimes Jx will just call, but if I check/raise all-in I could get the entire stack. I was not expecting to see two pair, but it was exhilarating to see.
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02-04-2022 , 05:53 AM
I'll never understand why Doyle Brunson said that he hates playing pocket aces in his old book. Hands down, my favorite hand to play and it isn't even close. Sometimes, I doubt my ability to play sound poker, but when I see people limp jam SB with 52o and other stuff. Especially limping junk in general it does raise my confidence. I even saw a player limp/call with AA. On another hand I 3-bet LJ's open with AA. Flop came AA6r, I bet very small and the opponent check/raises and barrels it off with KQo. Another hand came up where I had AA vs. KK 300BBs deep. That ended nicely for me. Then a little while later this hand happened:

LJ limps in
I complete in the SB with J 8
BB checks

Flop($0.29) T Q Q
I check
BB folds
LJ checks

Turn($0.29) T Q Q 9
I check
LJ bets $0.10
I raise to $0.44
LJ calls

Maybe leading turn might be better than check/raise, but I was also thinking about the bad beat jack pot and also the promotional points I get from getting strong hands to showdown.

River($1.10) T Q Q 9 A
I bet $0.88
LJ raises to $2.51
I go all-in to $10.77
LJ calls

Spoiler:
LJ shows Q T


Lately there has been this promotion lately where everyday $1000 is given to the top 50 players in points. The money is divided amongst the 50 players in proportion to how many points they have. I am a big fan of this promotion, because it makes it easier to play a lot of volume and get a $ prize rather than get tickets to tournaments which I suck at or race other players for a set-in-stone prize determined by brackets. I don't really care where I place in points that much, just as long as I am in the top 50. I won't be including the money earned from this in my overall win rate, because I view that more as a side objective. It ranges from $10ish to $30ish a day depending on how many hands I play.

Current standings:
286,186 hands
+$1,345.99
Jackpot: +$136.1
Winrate: 4.7BBs/100 hands

The jackpot is not a cheap thing in this game, but I suppose it does attract a lot of recreational players so I can't complain too much. It is kind of a ***** though at the same time.

Here is an unorthodox hand versus a specific player that was playing way too many hands and when betting, would only choose to bet the pot or not at all. I thought it might be time for a hero call in the thread since most of my posts have been nitty folds.

LJ opens $0.25
CO calls
I 3bet in SB to $1.40 with A K
LJ folds
CO calls

Flop($2.92) 5 9 2
I check
CO checks

Turn($2.92) 5 9 2 9
I bet $1.46
CO calls

River($5.64) 5 9 2 9 J
I check
CO bets $5.64
I call

Spoiler:
CO shows 6 3 and I scoop the pot


I was watching this dude play for awhile. When he checks flop he has a lot of nothing often. When I bet the turn it is for value, because I expect a lot of junk to call. On the river I'm checking and actually feel like my hand is stronger if he bets pot than if he checks back. If you've ever run across a player like this, you probably know what I'm talking about. Was thinking of check calling the turn, but I like betting better, because it is possible for turn to go check/check and river to go check/bet/call. Also, check/bet/call on turn doesn't guarantee a check/bet/call on the river. Betting turn could look like a stab and much more likely to get bluffed on river.
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02-12-2022 , 09:27 PM
Putting in a lot of volume lately. Did 4000ish hands the other night. 3 hands stood out to me.

Biggest Mistake of the Night?:

LJ limps
I raise to $0.40 on BU with T 9
LJ calls

Flop($0.90) 8 7 J
LJ checks
I bet $0.45
LJ calls

Turn($1.73) 8 7 J J
LJ bets $0.10
I raise to $1.52
LJ calls

River($4.54) 8 7 J J A
LJ bets $2.05
I fold

I really think I should have called the river. For some reason I thought he had AJ or a flush, but looking back he could have had a weak Jx or a mediocre hand that decided to bet/fold rather than check/call. I think this may have been the biggest misplay of the night.


Another hand 150BBs deep:

CO opens $0.25
BU calls $0.25
I 3-bet in SB to $1.25 with 9 9
BB folds
CO folds
BU calls

Flop($2.66) K 6 A
I bet $0.88
BU calls

Turn($4.28) K 6 A J
I check
BU bets $0.50
I call

River($5.20) K 6 A J 9
I check
BU bets $1
I raise all-in to $13.84

When players bet small sometimes I go with a large sizing for the check/raise, because they feel like they may have induced a bluff. I really felt like he was trapping here and I don't think my opponent would fold a hand like AJ here. Maybe a smaller sizing would get more calls though with Ax hands though. Is a check/raise to $6ish better? So far I'm thinking jamming here is correct.

Spoiler:
BU calls and shows 6 6



Biggest pot of the night:

LJ with $13.30 opens $0.25
I'm in the CO with $19.26 holding 6 5 and 3-bet to $0.75
SB with $16.65 4-bets to $1.55
LJ calls
I call

Seems like a lot of players have been 3-betting and 4-betting really small lately which I'm really liking a lot, because then I don't have to fold. Not sure what has started this trend so rapidly lately, but really cool that it is happening.

Flop($4.41) 3 2 7
SB bets $2.94
LJ calls
I call

Not sure about this one, feels pretty close between a call and a fold. I need to be able to extract about $30ish if I do call to try and hit a 4. The fact that there was a club on the flop made me lean toward calling. If turn is 9 or 8, I'll be comfortable stacking off. There are some rare scenarios where I can also turn my hand into a bluff, like if turn and river are both a jack and a ten, and action gets passive. This is pretty unlikely though as I suspect turn will be jammed 95%+ of the time. Something else to consider; if LJ has a set my outs are not 100% clean. QQ-99 is more likely though. Can any of those hands find a fold on a 4 turn though?

Turn($12.72) 3 2 7 4
SB moves all-in for $12.16
LJ tank calls
I call

Spoiler:
SB shows A A
LJ shows T T
We vote to run it twice. 6 first river, K second river.

Last edited by TheGodson; 02-12-2022 at 09:51 PM. Reason: Had to fix 8:club to 8:club:
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02-17-2022 , 05:22 PM
Turns out PokerStars is available in Michigan which is pretty cool to say the least. I deposited about $57ish on there and started messing about at 10nl. I really like the design. This was also an opportunity for me to download PT4 and trial it for 14 days. I once used PT4 years ago for BetOnline, but the card catcher thing that I had to download with PT4 was subscription and I didn't want to do that. PT4 is about $100 and after using a HUD for the first time in a long time I've got to say that it is incredibly amazing. I've always felt that HUDs were not good for poker on a broad level, but if it is allowed then there is no reason to not accept that advantage.

At these 10nl tables on Stars, so very few people 3-bet enough. It is wonderful. There are also many who don't raise very often. With the HUD, I prefer the Cash - Professional layout, because I feel these stats have been pretty useful. The VPIP and PFR stats are so useful, because recognizing the gap between the numbers can give a pretty good ball park of how that player actually plays.

In the past I've used a 6 color coding system:
Yellow = Loose Passive
Green = Tight Passive
Red = Loose Aggressive
Purple = Tight Aggressive
Blue = Nit
Orange = Maniac

A lot of the people that fall under the yellow category can be both stations and also fit or fold players indicated by my notes, but with the HUD it is so much easier to identify good spots for plays. Also, when a player donk bets into me after isolating them preflop, I may take a look at their fold to c-bet percentage. If it is pretty high I can give the donk bet more weight versus if it is lower. I haven't even worked out what all these stats mean, but it is kind of cool piecing the bits of information together to figure stuff out.

There was a spot where someone continuation bet on the flop and I saw that their c-bet was 100% with a small sample like 8 hands. Even with 8 hands though, the numbers on far ends of the spectrum converge quickly. Even in this 3-way pot I was able to flat their half pot bet with 55 on 942r board. Turn was a 4 no flush draw. He checked, I bet 1/3 pot he called. River was was a 6 and I faced a donk bet of 1/2 the pot and was able to call and beat his AK. With the combination of a 12 PFR stat and a high Cbet percentage it is not unreasonable to assume that I'm going to face a lot of high card hands on this river. Normally I'd probably just fold on the flop to the c-bet, but the HUD gave me that extra push to call on the flop. Of course, I could have faced a hand like QQ-TT on the river, but I can discount hands like 96s and such because of the PFR. Also, QQ-TT may double barrel instead of donking river.

10nl tables are significantly softer than 10nl boost tables for sure, but even for regular 10nl, I think these tables for Michigan may be softer yet. At a 300 some hand sample I have a 39.29 VPIP and 28.57 PFR which normally would be too high, but there are so many players that either don't defend their BB enough or 3-bet. I'm also getting pretty lucky with a high number of playable hands and overly high win rate at 56.08BBs/100.

The bonuses at this site are pretty cool too. There is a $600 bonus thingy and I want to fulfill that.

There was a poster in this thread that said something along the lines of time being a valuable resource and they are right. Online Poker being legal in Michigan feels like a window of opportunity that might not be around forever and I'm thinking I should seize that opportunity. I'm going to put in some volume at these stakes to a point where I have a 95% confidence that I am a winner at the given stake. I'll be using this awesome website: https://www.primedope.com/poker-variance-calculator/ to find out and then I will up the stakes. I'll repeat this process until I am at 100nl or 200nl. I have quite a bit of excess money coming in from my job as a janitor so I have enough to support a bankroll for 100nl or 200nl, but I want to verify that I have the skillset to beat those stakes before hurdling into them. I may jump stakes prematurely, but I will need a good reason to believe I have an edge. Volume of hands is the best metric as numbers don't lie.

Some things that I've changed about my game:
1) I don't overbet on tied boards on the river nearly as much when neither my opponents nor I can have the cards to beat the board. In the past, a lot of people would likely know I don't have it, but would still be reluctant to make a call where they are only winning half the pot. Really bad players always called, decent/mediocre players always folded, better players usually called, but sometimes folded. Now, it seems everyone just calls.

2) I don't overbet 3x pot on three of the same card flops as a bluff. People just used to overfold here all the time. Now they don't. I can probably still do this versus green or blue colored players, but no longer will it be standard.

3) Check-raising or raising strong hands is usually better than trapping. I've been trapping with sets too much. It is still good, but I've been doing it way too much. If I have 66 and flop comes 862r. I'm going to raise it in position versus EP bettor. If they have an overpair, have fun folding. It won't be easy. Even though I don't have many bluffs in that spot, they call anyway. Is it GTO, probably not, but oh well.

4) I check more often to the preflop limper in the BB and SB instead of leading out. Limpers usually be put off hands easily so I'm not that likely to get 3 streets of value just betting out anyway. Chances are flop goes check/check. I bet the turn and they fold.

5) I cbet way too much and need to lower this. At 10nl boost, I can get away with this quite a bit, but when certain players come to the table it can be a bit of a blood bath for me. Especially in the 3-bet pots while OOP. I usually bet 1/3 pot after they call my 3-bet. It isn't so bad, but I do abuse this a bit much and it can be a bit obvious.
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06-13-2023 , 03:03 AM
So I played the Pokerstars in Michigan, but after the free trial ran out for poker tracker I just kind of forgot about poker, but I have recently emerged from the shadows once again after a little more than a year.

As far as the million hand challenge goes, I occasionally play at lunch break sometimes. My results for that thus far are as follows:
330,255 hands
+$1,755.75
Jackpot: +$144.05

But I've been doing PokerStars for Michigan and the results have been nice.



According to the variance calculator there is a 95% chance my true winrate is between -0.26 BB/100 and 41.10 BB/100.

It is kind of strange, but I've been getting obsessed with Black Jack card counting lately which is something I've never really pursued much in the past, but my obsession with precision for not making mistakes is carrying over to my poker playing which is kind of cool.
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06-24-2023 , 03:58 AM


Started getting some volume at 30nl. Around 10k+ hands. I ran pretty badly for awhile. There was a hand in particular where I was really happy to hit 88 on AA8 in a multiway pot and was expecting to get this guy's stack who was betting massive, but had to fold it once a third ace came on the river where he jammed all-in. For awhile, it seemed like I could not win a hand. I played around with the poker variance calculator so that I can get a better idea of what kind of downswings one can expect with given winrates.

I finally got enough star coins to purchase a hat in the Poker Stars merch store. Soon I will gather more merch and cool trinkets. Unlocking chests and getting star coins is surprisingly extremely motivating to keep playing. I have the gold chests now and eventually will reach diamond. Unfortunately the red hat with the spade in the middle is no longer available so I had to get a different one.

I've updated my poker philosophy on having a flatting range preflop. If the players behind have massive 3-bet percentages then I should no longer be flatting from the HJ and maybe even the CO and BU as well. For whatever reason, on a Saturday, there was a reg infested lineup with players aggressively 3-betting to the point where I couldn't call opens with my pairs. Overall, my preflop ranges have become more fluid than they used to be. I think it is for the better. In the past I would always flat TT-77 on the Button to an open. Now it is conditional on who is in the blinds and the opener's post flop stats.
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07-01-2023 , 09:12 AM
Instead of using the BB/100, I can use BB/100 adjusted since it is a better indicator for true winrate. For 30nl it is at 17.31BB/100 after 18,726 hands. I feel safe to assume I have an edge and will be moving up to 50nl next time I play.

I'd say my biggest strong point is the ability to exploit my opponents. My theoretical knowledge still needs a lot more work though. I think the factor that makes these games so profitable the most, is people limping in way too much and not 3-betting enough. Every time someone limps in it is pretty much an extra ante.

My stats are 30.47 VPIP, 24.01 PFR, but I've finally realized the reason for this. I am often starting tables. I will sit down and I'll usually play heads up for quite awhile until other players sit down. When I filter for 5 to 10 players being dealt into the hand my stats are 26.01 VPIP, 20.26 PFR. It would be nice to be able to filter the HUD so that other players aren't skewed into numbers that don't truly reflect their playing style. I'll have to figure this out later.

Some random thoughts that have come into my head:
When I open and call a 3-bet I should be thinking more about what bet size my opponent tends to use on the flop. Some players bet 1/3 or 1/4 while others will habitually bet closer to the pot. Versus players that bet the pot post, calling with pocket pairs goes up in value, A lot of other stuff is better to be mucked pre then have to deal with a pot sized bet post. Hands like 76s is better to call versus a player that bets small post, because then I can pick up bluffing opportunities or be able to get to show down with a pair occasionally.

I want to go through various VPIP and PFR numbers and categorize them into specific ranges preflop, so I can make more concrete adjustments to players. I will have to sift through some data in the player pool to do this. I think it will be a good use of time. I probably already do this intuitively, but I want to get even more accurate.

I also want to learn proper betting frequencies and bet sizings for specific flops in certain positions. Right now it doesn't seem to be too much of a problem, because I can usually get away with betting too much, but I assume that once I move up I won't be able to get away with this as much anymore since players will begin check/raising more often.

I am intrigued by the concept of betting smaller (1/3 pot) vs. an IP caller more often. When I bet 2/3 pot sometimes it feels like pot ends up getting too large for the strength of my hand. Betting 1/3 does invite more calling/raising which sucks, but I think it really forces IP caller's that have too much garbage to make decisions that aren't so obvious.

I should also brush up on my heads up game since it is less to memorize/understand and I will encounter it frequently when starting tables.
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07-03-2023 , 10:13 AM
It's great to hear about your success at 30nl and your plans to move up to 50nl.
It sounds like you have a good understanding of exploiting your opponents' tendencies, which is a valuable skill to have in poker.

Regarding your VPIP and PFR stats, it's important to consider the number of players at the table when interpreting these numbers.
Your observation that your stats change when more players are dealt the hand is valid
Filtering your HUD to reflect the playing style of individual players can indeed be helpful.
This way, you can have a more accurate understanding of their tendencies and adjust your strategy accordingly.

Analyzing different VPIP and PFR ranges and categorizing them can be a useful exercise.
It will help you make more precise adjustments against different player types. It's great that you're already doing this intuitively, but organizing the data will provide you with a more systematic approach.
Explore the HUD settings in PT4. As far as I remember, it had such an opportunity.

Understanding proper betting frequencies and bet sizings for specific flops and positions is crucial.
As you move up in stakes, opponents are likely to be more skilled and observant, making it important to vary your bet sizes and frequencies in order for them to make mistakes.
Adjusting your bet sizes based on the strength of your hand and the board texture can be a powerful tool.

Experimenting with smaller bet sizes, like 1/3 pot can be a valuable strategy.
It can make it harder for them to make decisions with weaker hands and potentially induce more mistakes.
However, it's important to consider the board texture, opponent tendencies, and the overall dynamics of the hand when choosing bet sizes.

Overall, it seems like you have a good understanding of the areas you want to improve upon and the strategies you want to focus on.
Keep studying, analyzing data, and experimenting with different approaches.

Best of luck as you move up to 50nl!
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07-06-2023 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
So I played the Pokerstars in Michigan, but after the free trial ran out for poker tracker I just kind of forgot about poker, but I have recently emerged from the shadows once again after a little more than a year.
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07-21-2023 , 07:35 AM
The VPIP, PFR study turned out to not be that useful since the sample size wasn't really great enough. Anyone with a VPIP over 40 I can really just c-bet a lot, because their range is going to be weak often. I think the 3-bet stat is really important to pay attention to. If they have a 3B of 3 or less I can choose to not 4-bet bluff. I can also open from the button more. I probably can do the same from the cutoff position, but it can take up a bit too much mindshare so I really focus more on the button. I think focusing on players with more normal looking stats is a better use of my time than discovering whether I should make a different play deviation against a 40 VPIP player versus a 55 VPIP player.


I have devised 14 charts for specific hands in an excel spreadsheet for what to do with preflop starting hands.

5 for opens: LJ, HJ, CO, BU, SB
5 for vs RFI: IP vs LJ/HJ, BU vs CO, SB vs LJ/HJ, SB vs CO, SB vs BU
4 for BB defense: BB vs LJ/HJ, BB vs CO, BB vs BU, BB vs SB

Each chart has hands that are color coded. Blue means fold, Yellow means call, Purple means raise/fold, Orange means raise/call, Red means raise/raise/fold, Green means raise/raise/all-in. With RFI and BB defense, Red and Green are essentially the same thing since Red will be all-in before it has the chance to fold, but I still use the colors to distinguish the bluffing vs value hands. The charts I've built are simplifications based on preflop ranges generated from GTO Wizard. Obviously HJ's reaction to an IP 3-bet vs. OOP 3-bet should be different, however vs the standard 3x IP 3-bet and 4x OOP 3-bet there isn't too big of a discrepancy, so I memorize the general rules and make deviations from the chart as I see fit. HJ and LJ are often grouped together so that I don't have to know as many charts. I feel like 14 is a good solid number where I have a solid answer for almost every preflop situation. Not too many, not too few.

The charts look really cool and I wish I could post them for yall to see, but I don't really feel like it is a good idea to be posting my ranges as it isn't impossible for someone in the player pool to see my posts here.

I haven't dabbled in flop study as much as I would like to. I will strongly consider getting GTO+ and/or Flopzilla at some point if I feel they are worth it when the time comes. My plan for the future will be to have some sample flop textures to work with and find strategies with each of the 14 charts. For the opponent I can use the same 14 charts and pretend they have the same strategy as me. For IP callers versus an open I'll have to construct a new range since I've stopped flatting opens in a vacuum. That will probably be something like 99-44, weaker suited broadway, AJo, KQo, some suited connectors and some suited aces.

Here are my results for 50NL so far:


Despite the fact that my green line is above my yellow line I do feel like I may be running a bit below my true winrate, but I guess it is hard to be certain.
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07-29-2023 , 11:49 PM
I was going teach someone how to play poker at my house. But she stood me up, so instead I spent 7 and a half hours playing 50NL and made over $826.84. Probably the best session of my life in terms of money gained. I was playing well, but also hitting a lot of stuff. Made some great folds and great call downs as well.



I have now reached a point where I feel confident in my abilities at 50NL. My adjusted BBs/100 is 20.07. My actual is 25.67 BBs/100. So luck has definitely been on my side. The variance calculator for adjusted BBs/100 shows that there is a 98.73% chance that I am a winning player. For fun I calculated my adjusted hourly ($33.15/hr) and actual hourly ($42.40/hr). I make $24 an hour at my day job so it is a bit tempting to switch full time to poker. I don't know if I'm ready for that yet though since the winrate I have right now is probably not sustainable. I also played on Saturday which is probably the softest time to play.

I will now be proceeding to 100NL. Hopefully I can still hold my own there, but we'll see. If I am able to hold my own at 100NL I may start to strive for the black chests which give 33% rakeback instead of 25% at diamond. At 50NL you have to play a lot in order to get the black chest.

I've been watching Phil Galfond YouTube videos and they have been really helpful. He said something along the lines of if you have a great bluffing opportunity, but you are a bit scared to pull it off, it is usually correct to just go with it. There was also another video about being willing to bluff with hands that have show down value, since they have better EV being a bluff than a bluff catcher.

Here is a cool hand that I played that may have been inspired by those principles:
I open in CO to 3BBs with A 9
BB reg is the only caller

Flop(6.55BBs) A J 9
BB checks
I bet 2.04BBs
BB calls

Turn(10.58BBs) A J 9 K
BB checks
I bet 7.54BBs
BB calls

River(25.66BBs) A J 9 K J
BB bets 14BBs
I go all-in
He folds

He has 75.14BBs behind him after betting so I need folds about 69% of the time for it to be good. I felt that he had QJ and JT quite often here and would fold to the jam. Jx of spades may play this way as well. I probably run into some boats occasionally so it is a bit dangerous, however there are quite a few bluff combos that are also folding so overall I think it is +EV. All the nutted hands I can definitely have here and so I believe the bluff is credible.

I have significantly improved my ability to visualize my entire range and even found a spot in a 3-bet pot on a monotone board with low SPR where I was thinking I can jam with these over pairs that don't have a flush draw and also Jam some flush draws, but bet small with overpairs that have a flush draw and also bet small with a lot of other junk. It was like I was balancing on the fly which I've been able to do before, but I usually don't think about it with multiple bet sizes. So that was kind of cool.
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08-08-2023 , 02:45 AM
I lost quite a bit of money at 100nl and had to move back down to 50nl. I also purchased GTO+ and was going to use it to figure out proper bet sizes with specific flops and basically discovered that bet sizes aren't even all that important to EV as long as they are balanced. All those times where I've been doing 1/3 pot on some drawish board textures I haven't been giving up as much EV as I thought. On an exploitative level, it may be good to change bet size based on my opponent's tendencies (betting larger versus a call-happy player while still being somewhat balanced). I haven't really implemented anything though.

To be honest, the solver hasn't really improved my play that much. It has made me realize that I'm not as exploitable as I thought with all the range betting on certain flops that I've been doing.

I just find that it is so important to pay attention and be hand reading and not go into auto-pilot which is easy to do. Here is a hand where I checked back the river, where I may have just bet half pot if I wasn't thinking too much.

LJ opens $1.50
CO with $60.83 stack calls
I 3-bet in BB to $7.50 with K K
LJ folds
CO calls

Flop($15.91) J Q 9
I check
CO checks

Turn($15.91) J Q 9 5
I bet $5.25
CO calls

River($25.89) J Q 9 5 A
I check
CO jams all-in for $48.08
I call
CO shows 9 7 and I scoop

If I have a hand like AJ or A9 I'd probably want to check this river and get to showdown. If my opponent has a one pair hand with no spade they may just try and bluff me off the hand, especially if they think I have weak Ax often. Interestingly enough, I may actually be overfolding vs. that jam on the river, so even though I had the nuts this time, my opponent's jam might actually be good against me.

I've been doing a bit more river check/raise bluffs on rivers than I have in the past.

LJ limps for $0.50
folds to me in BB with 7 4 and I check

Flop($1.19) 4 K 2
I check
LJ checks

Turn($1.19) 4 K 2 T
I bet $0.60
LJ calls

River($2.33) 4 K 2 T 6
I check
LJ bets $1.67
I raise to $5
LJ folds

I think the river check/raise bluff is a good play, but it has to be done sparingly since my opponent has such great odds to call. With the sizing I chose, I should have about 3 value hands for every bluff. In this spot in particular, I may have been overbluffing a bit, but I think it is believable since most players in my spot wont take my line and my opponent seemed willing to bet/fold from previous hands.
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08-18-2023 , 03:42 AM
Still running great at 50nl, but for whatever reason 100nl seems to be a struggle. I think I am getting lucky at 50nl and not so much at 100nl. I've been 3 tabling 50nl and 1 tabling 100nl as of now. As the bankroll grows I will do 2 tables of 50nl and 2 tables of 100nl and fade more until I am playing 100nl exclusively. I think it is more of a psychological ploy more than anything.

50NL


100NL


Since I have a 28.22 BB/100 winrate after 20,470 hands I feel like I should probably be capable of beating 100nl, but there seems to be a lot more recreational players at 50nl than 100nl so I'll need to gather more data to be sure. I will be using the poker variance calculator to find the 95% threshold of highest and lowest winrates. If the 50nl lowest winrate ever exceeds twice of the highest winrate for 100nl then I will know to not move up to 100nl and just stay at 50nl regardless of bankroll size.

There are certain players that seem to be playing so frequently that I should actually dissect their play so that I can develop a specific strategy against each of them. Maybe I'll use a set of criteria for choosing to do this. Perhaps once I gather 10,000 hands on them and also when their ratio of hands played vs. my total hands played are greater than 1:10. This way if there is a greater than 10% chance that they'll be at a table I'm playing, it may be worth my time to dive deeper into counter strategy. These numbers I have chosen are kind of arbitrary, but I think it will be fine.
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08-18-2023 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Still running great at 50nl, but for whatever reason 100nl seems to be a struggle. I think I am getting lucky at 50nl and not so much at 100nl. I've been 3 tabling 50nl and 1 tabling 100nl as of now. As the bankroll grows I will do 2 tables of 50nl and 2 tables of 100nl and fade more until I am playing 100nl exclusively. I think it is more of a psychological ploy more than anything.

50NL


100NL


Since I have a 28.22 BB/100 winrate after 20,470 hands I feel like I should probably be capable of beating 100nl, but there seems to be a lot more recreational players at 50nl than 100nl so I'll need to gather more data to be sure. I will be using the poker variance calculator to find the 95% threshold of highest and lowest winrates. If the 50nl lowest winrate ever exceeds twice of the highest winrate for 100nl then I will know to not move up to 100nl and just stay at 50nl regardless of bankroll size.

There are certain players that seem to be playing so frequently that I should actually dissect their play so that I can develop a specific strategy against each of them. Maybe I'll use a set of criteria for choosing to do this. Perhaps once I gather 10,000 hands on them and also when their ratio of hands played vs. my total hands played are greater than 1:10. This way if there is a greater than 10% chance that they'll be at a table I'm playing, it may be worth my time to dive deeper into counter strategy. These numbers I have chosen are kind of arbitrary, but I think it will be fine.

Impressive stuff..... 28.22BB/100 win rate.

I didn't know that these kind of win rates are even possible at 50NL...

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08-18-2023 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Abstraktion
Impressive stuff..... 28.22BB/100 win rate.

I didn't know that these kind of win rates are even possible at 50NL...
Those Americans only sites are obviously much better as it is a wealthy country where even NL100 is mostly noobs. If UPS drivers make 175k per year there, I can just imagine how few pros are in NL 50 zoom

Not to downplay these results, they are amazing.
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08-19-2023 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Laaksolahti
Those Americans only sites are obviously much better as it is a wealthy country where even NL100 is mostly noobs. If UPS drivers make 175k per year there, I can just imagine how few pros are in NL 50 zoom

Not to downplay these results, they are amazing.

For sure that's not downplaying it.

I'd still think not even Linus Loeliger could achieve 28BB/100 on NL50? Mathematically near impossible at these levels against sophisticated players in 6-max games?
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08-19-2023 , 07:30 PM
Yeah, I definitely believe the player pool has a big part of it, because I feel like I still have quite a solid amount of leaks in my game. One of my strengths as a player is being able to exploit recreational players, but I definitely want to be able to hold my own versus strong regs in the future.
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08-27-2023 , 05:43 AM
Redesigned my HUD so it is more tailored for my needs. I've modeled it after the Cash - Professional Profile. I've removed some things I don't find useful such as table stats and the automatic note taking. I've included certain stats such as Total AFq. I've also customized it so the numbers change from green to red when a stat falls out of the norm of a proper strategy.



For the other group I have added CPR (called preflop raise) as an additional aid to preflop play. I've also added 5B (5Bet+ preflop). All my preflop stats are on the first line. The second line includes text to clarify categories. the next following 3 lines indicate flop, turn, and river stats respectively.



I originally just had "Bets" for the first column, but I found those stats to be less useful compared to Cbets. Probe Folds are quite useful for determining which players check back weak hands and which ones check back marginal hands. It is also great for determining which players I can steal turn or reverse float when I'm in the BB or OOP in general.

I'm doing my best to give myself enough information to be incredibly useful without doing information overload. I think I've hit a good happy medium for now.
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