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I wish people like him to never make money in poker, i am done no more micros I wish people like him to never make money in poker, i am done no more micros

10-28-2011 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAM333R
how about bluffs then? u play poker everytime u hit top pair and someone know u r going to fold it if making a raise?... and like you said...m u will?
Those microstakes donk don't have the guts to raise with bluffs, besides no one is paying attention to how you play so they have no clue that you fold each time. Trust me man. I've played too many microstakes hands.

Only on the flop they sometimes raise with a draw so there toppair topkicker is still good, but once they raise you on the turn they hold the nuts every single time (unless you have a read that villian is a huge maniac and raising postflop all the time). Even at NL25-Nl50 they hardly bluffraise the turn. People are so nitty.
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10-28-2011 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerfish_
I thought you left the micro's?

On a serious note: I think they call ATC because they know they can stack you off when they hit twopair

You sir, are a huge callingstation, try to find the fold button! The characterics of a microstake donk is that he only bets value and only raises the nuts. So when they raise you it's easy to fold toppair.
Not true!! dreamer played the turned flush very tricky!! no ordinary microstakes donk!! on the 74s he checked back the made flush, and decided to shove the river when a possible full house hit, and the only hand that SHOULD of been calling was a full house, maybe higher flush!!!

This guy knows how to check the strong hands and let bigger hands draw!!! all you can do is call with overpair
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10-28-2011 , 08:42 PM
Dreamer we can play ANYTIME and talk strategy. Let me know when done with tourneys
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10-28-2011 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Craigio
Not true!! dreamer played the turned flush very tricky!! no ordinary microstakes donk!! on the 74s he checked back the made flush, and decided to shove the river when a possible full house hit, and the only hand that SHOULD of been calling was a full house, maybe higher flush!!!

This guy knows how to check the strong hands and let bigger hands draw!!! all you can do is call with overpair
He is a different type then the standard micro donk you damn troll
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10-28-2011 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAM333R
Any comments on this hand? I love to play with some gappers sc from btn, did i played it bad?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $12.45
SB: $9.48
BB: $4.31
UTG: $4.03

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 4 7

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, SB raises to $0.45, fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) 9 T 8
SB bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1.80, SB calls $1.35

Turn: ($4.55, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.55, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero bets $10.20 and is all-in, SB calls $7.23 and is all-in

Hero shows 4 7 (Flush, Ten High) (PreFlop 20%, Flop 46%, Turn 100%)
SB shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (PreFlop 80%, Flop 54%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $18.08
Yes you have a straight and a flush so that makes straightflush so very well played, he could never put you on that.
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10-28-2011 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerfish_
This is HU and I'm no HU expert but I think you'll only get called by better in this spot. Next time do this with AK or a Fullhouse and you can stack him of Donkeyboy. However I think it's sweet how you think about poker, I was same like you 6 yrs ago.
I am not HU expert either lol, but this is one of those chance to make shut up one of us, i lost and whatever it's not an example, about how i am thinking about poker..mm tell me please, i am confused about poker right now, i am only playing cash games few month or so still learning still reading harringtons about 6 max online, i used to play mtss on 888 before and was kinda winning but qiut it after bad beats i had there and lost $600 in a week, so i moved to ps and learning cash games, but still 100% sure it might not work for every1 at this stakes, for some one limit is better then other and this is kinda true, micros put me on tilt every time after i lose, because i respect when i lose to nhs not like any 2 72o, here is an example..of hands i protect on BB or play from BTN or SB:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $10.02
SB: $14.13
Hero (BB): $9.85
UTG: $11.52
MP: $10.42
CO: $30.94

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 6 3

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65, 2 players) Q 5 K
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.25, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.25, 2 players) T
Hero bets $1.19, BTN raises to $9.42 and is all-in, Hero calls $8.06 and is all-in

BTN shows J A (Straight, Ace High) (PreFlop 63%, Flop 48%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows 6 3 (Flush, King High) (PreFlop 37%, Flop 52%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $18.77
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10-28-2011 , 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DREAM333R
Any comments on this hand? I love to play with some gappers sc from btn, did i played it bad?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $12.45
SB: $9.48
BB: $4.31
UTG: $4.03

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 4 7

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, SB raises to $0.45, fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) 9 T 8
SB bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1.80, SB calls $1.35

Turn: ($4.55, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.55, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero bets $10.20 and is all-in, SB calls $7.23 and is all-in

Hero shows 4 7 (Flush, Ten High) (PreFlop 20%, Flop 46%, Turn 100%)
SB shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (PreFlop 80%, Flop 54%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $18.08
Ha ha ha.... Move up to 25nl PLEASE!!!!
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10-28-2011 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAM333R
I am not HU expert either lol, but this is one of those chance to make shut up one of us, i lost and whatever it's not an example, about how i am thinking about poker..mm tell me please, i am confused about poker right now, i am only playing cash games few month or so still learning still reading harringtons about 6 max online, i used to play mtss on 888 before and was kinda winning but qiut it after bad beats i had there and lost $600 in a week, so i moved to ps and learning cash games, but still 100% sure it might not work for every1 at this stakes, for some one limit is better then other and this is kinda true, micros put me on tilt every time after i lose, because i respect when i lose to nhs not like any 2 72o, here is an example..of hands i protect on BB or play from BTN or SB:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $10.02
SB: $14.13
Hero (BB): $9.85
UTG: $11.52
MP: $10.42
CO: $30.94

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 6 3

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65, 2 players) Q 5 K
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.25, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.25, 2 players) T
Hero bets $1.19, BTN raises to $9.42 and is all-in, Hero calls $8.06 and is all-in

BTN shows J A (Straight, Ace High) (PreFlop 63%, Flop 48%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows 6 3 (Flush, King High) (PreFlop 37%, Flop 52%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $18.77
Fold preflop, there are better ways to defend your BB and 63s is not the way to go. You should defend your BB by 3betting with hands like AT+ 88+, and only call with pocketpairs. You should only call with suited connectors (preferrably IP)when there is 1 more caller. 63s is not a connector, you were very lucky in this hand.

As played I think it's okay, it's a bit scary call at river but at these stakes they don't really look at the board so any twopair or better they could push. At somewhat higher stakes you would probably be beat by a higher flush. For the standard NL2 NL5 donk twopair up is the nuts and the board is mostly less important.
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10-28-2011 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FunkyMunky23
Ha ha ha.... Move up to 25nl PLEASE!!!!
He has straightflush wtf?
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10-28-2011 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Craigio
Not true!! dreamer played the turned flush very tricky!! no ordinary microstakes donk!! on the 74s he checked back the made flush, and decided to shove the river when a possible full house hit, and the only hand that SHOULD of been calling was a full house, maybe higher flush!!!

This guy knows how to check the strong hands and let bigger hands draw!!! all you can do is call with overpair
this is why u got bankroll for, ppl cant fold AA or QQ or KK, so u push with str8, flush, even if possiblle house is on table, but he had an overpair, he would played it better if he had say TT the only best hand possiblle there really, but it was na overpair and like i said, he put some money with huge hand and he cant fold, yes i check my nuts to hope he is going to bluff me like he got a flush and i got only say AT, but he didnt, weird ok, but then i think...u wanna see showdown? call all in nah i am ready any time with hand like this.
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10-28-2011 , 09:01 PM
if you raise flop he will reraise and you can fold instead of getting leveled.
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10-28-2011 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerfish_
He has straightflush wtf?
It wasnt a str8flush it was str8 + flush draw if u see closely i had to raise the flop and ready to go at any time all in there but it was weird he checks behind me the turn, and not my fault he really wanna see how good his QQ
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10-28-2011 , 09:03 PM
definite call on the river!! i dont think anyone can tell you to fold a flush at these stakes. unless of course you have a big read on the villain, even then its tough! if you call an all in with a flush on a board like this everytime, you will make money in the long run at the micros, no question about it.

Still a fold in BB tho vs BTN, i dont mind a speculative call in position vs SB though
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10-28-2011 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAM333R
this is why u got bankroll for, ppl cant fold AA or QQ or KK, so u push with str8, flush, even if possiblle house is on table, but he had an overpair, he would played it better if he had say TT the only best hand possiblle there really, but it was na overpair and like i said, he put some money with huge hand and he cant fold, yes i check my nuts to hope he is going to bluff me like he got a flush and i got only say AT, but he didnt, weird ok, but then i think...u wanna see showdown? call all in nah i am ready any time with hand like this.
OMG, seriously, in the long run they will only call wiht better, again you were very lucky that he called with overpair, for most players it's a snapfold. Maybe your table image is helping you though.
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10-28-2011 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAM333R
It wasnt a str8flush it was str8 + flush draw if u see closely i had to raise the flop and ready to go at any time all in there but it was weird he checks behind me the turn, and not my fault he really wanna see how good his QQ
Yes it was straight+flushdraw, but at turn you had straight+flush=straightflush.
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10-28-2011 , 09:06 PM
Also didnt you think my all in was weird and loooks like i had an overpair as well after i check the flush? He obviously got confused with river bet, think dipper pokerpros
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10-28-2011 , 09:08 PM
and that 47 hand, i think you have to bet turn to get value, and to protect your hand, if another diamond comes, your not gonna be thinking your 7 is very good there, and if a scare card like the 9 comes, your have a tough decision to make...all because you called prelfop with a marginal hand. just my opinion, im no expert though
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10-28-2011 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAM333R
Also didnt you think my all in was weird and loooks like i had an overpair as well after i check the flush? He obviously got confused with river bet, think dipper pokerpros
Yes you underrepped your hand pretty well but the river card ****ed it up and most villians will fold and wait for a better spot. Thats why I said people will mostly only call with better, no matter what your turn action was.
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10-28-2011 , 09:09 PM
na the QQ guy was just a bigger donkey than you! i hope for yoursake you tagged him and join every table he plays.....please can i have his screenname?
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10-28-2011 , 09:10 PM
think me and pokerfish and everyone else are saying your play is wrong, only you think it is good? surely you can see that
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10-28-2011 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAM333R
Also didnt you think my all in was weird and loooks like i had an overpair as well after i check the flush? He obviously got confused with river bet, think dipper pokerpros
Besides that it's pretty bad to check the nuts in position. Next time when your up vs an aggresive opponent try to do such thing when your first to act, then if they bet you can shove.
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10-28-2011 , 09:17 PM
You can give me your email adress, then I'll mail you some better books then Harrington on 6max cashgames.

Here this one should get you started (Ryan Fee 6max cashgames):

http://www.**************.biz/books/2p2NL6max.pdf

Last edited by pokerfish_; 10-28-2011 at 09:23 PM.
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10-28-2011 , 09:22 PM
my email address is craiginho86@hotmail.com

anychance you can mail me some? books/links whatever, ive not read any poker books yet, just forums and youtube videos.

Cheers
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10-28-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Craigio
think me and pokerfish and everyone else are saying your play is wrong, only you think it is good? surely you can see that
you cannot judge in few funny hands i post but yes i am still learning and playing bad, but i got my own mind about how to play suited connectors for example where to call, how much, where to raise, we all do mistakes, the problem is we are talking about is not how bad i called with that KJ vs 49o, the problem is 94o from co pos call after an mp raised..

I wish every1 best success in poker to be honest because the better u will play the better i will play against you but if u call with 49o and u hit them two my brain wouldnt work it out wtf just happend and in a world someone playing like this, even player on tilt fold this crap i am sure, so this was something out of this game, looks like he is playing black jack and fogot he is on pokertable, then realised he got the nuts lol
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10-28-2011 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Craigio
my email address is craiginho86@hotmail.com

anychance you can mail me some? books/links whatever, ive not read any poker books yet, just forums and youtube videos.

Cheers
Oh lol, I thought you were DREAMER, never mind, I just sended you a mail
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