GL im sure we have played together more than a few times. Where do you live btw?

Yeah I think I will just buy the PT4 today or tomorrow and get on with it. I will stick to NLHE and keep improving my game.

If I did switch to omaha, I was planning to play 4PLO and use a 50BI rule. I would be able to handle the swings scared money/tilt-wise at 4PLO for sure as I used to play uncapped 1/3 PLO (and some 2/5) house games live when I was a senior in high school; had some wild swings for my roll at times lol (end up re-buying for 2k+ to cover table after I get stacked, degenaments haha).

Grinded up my PLO roll playing friendly .25/.50 PLO/NLHE mixed home games so I have about 100 hours of live PLO play. Not much experience with how standard TAG/LAG regs would be playing omaha online, most who I've played omaha live with are fit/fold weak-tight nits, degen droolers that play anything and dominated draws, and people who love to play AAxx. (Not that I am great myself, just good enough to take money off of these guys).

I have been reading bugs' PLO guide for the past 2 weeks in preparation for the switch just in case I get totally discouraged from NLHE. I also wanted to have a second game learned on a high level just in case the NLHE apocalypse comes later haha.

I have been having a lot of fun with NLHE though (even through my losing and long break-even streches at 4NL) so I will stick with it and try to get out of the micros and improve as a player.

Thank you sir. You play on Merge (Carbon) 4NL? US, Hawaii.

yeah I play 4NL & 10NL on merge BCP

Hey 2+2 I'm back. I had some life stuff to take care of but as of now I am going to get back on the online grind. Got my first job so I can finally experience the working world lol (cell phone salesman, aka retail consultant haha).

I have been playing live 1/2 and 1/3 for the past month or two about 10 hours a week. I was at $2400 of make up with my friend at the worst point. I just started playing again and I got it down to around $1800. I am looking to clear that up and ship him an extra $250 for his patience. (we are both busto 19 year olds so ~2k is a lot of money to lose).

And for my online BR.... Brrrraat suggested to stay away from PLO... well I didn't and I shipped about $200 at PLO10 (that was actually what triggered my long break as I lost motivation). I will say I didn't run the best, but I am definitely not excusing my play or anything. And also my first day back on 4NL (today) I have a decent session until I run into a guy (reg?) HU really deep and get coolered/owned (and one bad bluff by me I suppose..) for a couple BI's.

So here are my current goals, all my previous goals of getting to 200NL and being active in the forum still apply:

[]Clear the $2k of LIVE POKER makeup for my friend by end of January
[]Get out of 4NL on CARBON POKER by the end of January 2013
[]Participate in the BQ and micro NL forum at least every other day
[x]Finally bought PT4

Live Bankroll: $2200
Carbon Bankroll: $83.14

First session since the day the world was speculated to end, looks like mother earth ran good and passed some on to me (still managed to lose an 80/20 or 2).



This villain was very loose and was where I made at least 2-3BI's off him alone. He likes to spazz and ship with no equity (did it twice shipped something like 93s on the turn against my TP) so I thought I was value betting but what would have been a better line? Maybe calling down or just folding would have been much better then this trainwreck..

Villain is running at 67/41/3b25 over 60 hands while I have also been active with a 35/29/3b 14 (however I have been playing HU so stats are a lot looser).

Merge - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.00
SB: $4.17
BB: $1.20
Hero (UTG): $6.14
MP: $10.76
CO: $5.70

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has Q A

Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.14, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.48, 3 players) 5 K K
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.32, SB calls $0.32, fold

Turn: ($1.12, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero bets $0.82, SB raises to $1.64, Hero calls $0.82

River: ($4.40, 2 players) 3
SB bets $2.05 and is all-in, fold

Todays session: (+32.05)
Live Bankroll: $2200
Carbon Bankroll: $115.05

Been here before, Just have to stay disciplined and I can be back at 10 NL in no time!

Merry Christmas eve everyone. Played two sessions since the last post (I try to play 2k hands per sitting, usually 1 sitting a day, but I really have to push and/or reset at around 1500 to keep playing without tilting. I try not to leave until I bust all the 40+/xx+/xx+). Pretty standard session, lots of swings. Feel like I played well, bluffed at the right spots, value bet real thin when the situation warranted.

here is the graph for the last two sessions:



These two hands were kind of tough for me and I marked them in-game:

I wasn't really sure what the right play here was. I'm thinking the reg is iso-squeezing the loose player and my "loose" CO raise. Now that I am going over the hand, his range is probably like A2s-A5s, AJs+ AQo+ 88+ KQs+. This guy was pretty active over a short sample. I really wanted to peel the turn but I feel like he is shoving the turn 90% of the time and just burning money.


Merge - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): $13.10 35/25/3b 11 preety active, borderline LAG.
BTN: $1.68 67/19/ 3b 0 standard noodle
SB: $5.06
BB: $4.17 24/18/3b 11 basically a standard TAG over 40 hands. Kind of a bit active, he doesn't like me taking all the dead money (on other tables we battle too).

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has 9 9

Hero raises to $0.12, BTN calls $0.12, fold, BB raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.38, BTN calls $0.38

Flop: ($1.52, 3 players) J 6 8
BB bets $1.14, fold, fold


And heres the other one. I have started flatting with QQ more because I realized how QQ fares against an UTG 3/4 bet range. I decided to go for a 3 bet here because of table dynamics (i've been very aggro and running people over) and we were a little deeper so I figured Id get away from AA or KK. This villain wasnt exactly the tightest guy either, although his 3 bet was 3% sooo...

Big leak or meh standard? I was planning to call his flop cbet (80%) and hope he shuts down on the turn (40%). Based on the board I may or may not stick with the plan but the default was that. obv turn comes and I turn into a degen?


Merge - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): $15.92 30/24/3b 11
CO: $1.60
BTN: $4.00
SB: $5.36
BB: $3.96
UTG: $6.55 27/23/3b 3

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04, CO posts DB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.10) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to $0.18, Hero raises to $0.52, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to $1.66, Hero calls $1.14

Flop: ($3.42, 2 players) 6 T 4
UTG bets $1.71, Hero calls $1.71

Turn: ($6.84, 2 players) 3
UTG bets $3.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.18

River: ($13.20, 2 players) J





Todays session: (+24.07)
Live Bankroll: $2200
Carbon Bankroll: $139.82

Just gotta keep swimming. I really want to put in the work to get to 10-25 NL within the next few months. I will start looking for a sweat group or work partner just to keep sharp and stay on track. Let me know if you are interested or know anyone who is. But yeah, comments on the hands above much appreciated!

Played good the past few sessions, lost discipline at the end of my most recent session and rage tilted after getting sucked out on by a villain in a thin situation where I have been waiting for a while. I was immature about the loss and I started spewing gotta keep the mental game sharp. I'll post graphs every Sunday from now on just to bring consistency to the thread.

Past few sessions: ($-11.07)
Carbon Bankroll: $128.08

I wasn't quite sure what to do here, what would the standard play in my spot be? I feel like my hand becomes face up but that may be ok in this situation or no? I can't really set mine cuz of SPR from the 3 bet, but I feel like SB is wide here and I would have position. If UTG wasnt in I would be great, but I cant Iso cuz UTG's range should be ahead or flip vs my hand. I just want to know huge leak or meh spot?

Merge - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.00
SB: $6.90 32/19/3b 6 (500 hands)
Hero (BB): $4.81 28/24/3b 12 (110 hands)
UTG: $4.00 28/19/3b 8 (75 hands)
CO: $4.00

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has 9 9

fold, CO raises to $0.12, fold, SB raises to $0.33, Hero calls $0.29, CO calls $0.21

Flop: ($0.99, 3 players) 4 T 8
SB bets $0.49, Hero calls $0.49, CO calls $0.49

Turn: ($2.46, 3 players) 5
SB bets $2.04, fold, fold


And this hand I feel like may be kinda leaky... but then again short handed. villain is kind of reggy, def not a fish at least. And yeah my stats were kind of loose, but I was playing a weaker player but he quit me a little before this hand. I kind of would have ok with a 4 bet/call off line on the flop but I know he never folds TT+ AK to me if I take that line. With a good turn I believe my FE would be a lot greater but my draw gets weaker (unless I improve to a combo). On the river I feel I am good (or at least no point in betting).

I am basically concerned about the flop and turn, but all streets would be great!

Merge - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.00
SB: $4.74 22/17/3b 6 (620 hands)
Hero (BB): $6.96 33/29/18 (108 hands)

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has 5 6

fold, SB raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.24, 2 players) 2 7 T
SB checks, Hero bets $0.18, SB raises to $0.63, Hero calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.50, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.50, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero checks

Fold pre-flop. I don't think you're going to make a lot of money with 99 in this spot in the long run.

Yeah i've noticed your flatting mediocre hands 3/4 handed where there only going to a) lose your money. b)get yourself in tricky spots.

Ecspecially 99 OOP in a 3 way pot isnt going to play well.

Yeah idk why I keep doing stuff like that. I have to stop flatting marginal hands in bad spots. I have been kind of tilted the past few days (before christmas) and couldn't get myself to play since I was spewing money. I decided to just take off until the new year to clear my head, and plus I had a lot of fun family/friend stuff to do so decided I don't need to grind 4NL right then. My next session I will make it a point to tighten up to 3 bets a bit more.

Finally got my first live session of the year in tonight. Played in the home game where I started my career at. Originally a .25/.50 NL, NLOmahaHi (lol), and crazy pineapple?? (play 0-3 cards in your hand, think its made up but idk) it is now a 1/2 game. Plays real small however, the average BI is less than $100 and around $40-60. I BI for $100 and cover the table most of the time if I am there from the start. out of the 7-8 that play, everyone is very predictable with their "style", dynamics are huge as the pool has played each other for years. 2-3 weak tights that don't bring money to the table, 3 real donators that make the game worth it (probably willing to drop $300-500 on a given night) and the others fall between.
My friend and I are the only ones that really bet our hands "optimally" (sub-optimally but exploitative to crush calling stations). I was actually banned from the game when I was 17-18 for a year because they accused me of cheating by working with my friend and sending signals and because I bet too much (crushing too much, betting 3 streets for value is unheard of. they were trying to find any excuse to ban me for a little while).

Anyway I had a run good session and two of the donators were there and I iso owned them all night. At the end I cashed out for a $770 profit. I did come up on one hand where I was kind of disappointed because I was betting too thin against the fish while my friend was in the hand to exploit my exploiting.

6 handed, late in the night. donator raises to $11 AI. I am next and just took out this guys stack ~$110 and I do the good ol' "yeah I'll donate to ya." (gotta degen a bit so I don't get banned) called with T9. Two others call, one is a calling station that doesn't bet and loves to put money in horrible, will call most pairs at least 2 streets (even omaha); the other is my friend and he calls $11.

PREFLOP:

MP: All in for $11
CO (HERO): $750 T9
BTN (Calling station): $80
EP (friend): $500 (he rebought deep to combat me, hes down and is gambley-er then ussual)

POT:$47

FLOP: 9 7 6

friend checks, Hero bets $20, Calling station calls $20, Friend raises to $90, Hero sigh fold, station cry folds.

Now I was disappointed because I felt like I had so much equity but because I tried to squeeze the stations money, I got blown off. Could I ever justify flatting my friends bet? (just consider him a standard "reg" for theory sake, hes slightly more aggro than average). Its either that or check the flop. which would have been a better line iyo. (for all the online player readers, I know your like dude fold pre but you have to play a bit of live to somewhat relate to the dynamics of the game i'm in lol). ez fold? And yeah even live, I think this should have been a fold but just want some discussion on the hand I guess.

Live Profits 2013: +$770

Quick update, haven't played online since the new year but I have a day off so I will try to get a session in. I have been playing in the home games for the past week and just trying to knock the loan from my friend out.

Past 2 cash sessions: +383 (1/2 NL)
1 Live lolSNG: $-20

Big hand at the home game I play in, same game that my last post was about. Very soft game, the players are all friends for years and just play for fun. between me and my poker friend again. I am raising the button with about 50% of my hands OTB and to the table it looks like %100. (22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J7s+,T7s+,96s+ is my actual range). We are playing 6 handed and the tables overall agg factor is <1. My friend is the only player that is not a LP or CS. I would label him a result-oriented thinking TAG.

The whole table is like well he's raising again and my friend made a recent joke about my check and fold button is jammed (not working) and the table is jumping on the joke and adding to it. I am a friendly guy and make jokes about it and basically people think I am either fearless, loose, dumb, reckless, or all of the above. I crack jokes at the table and all that.


Hero (BTN): $400
SB:
BB (villain): $500 rebought after losing some pots
UTG:
MP:
CO:

Preflop: Hero is BTN with AQ
2 limps, Hero raises to $8, SB folds, BB raises to 24, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($54) 854(2 players)
SB bets 35, Hero raises to $85

Turn: ($224) T (2 players)
SB bets checks, Hero checks

River: ($224) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero???


So what do you think I should do here given my line? Should I check behind, Or bet? (1/2,2/3,Pot,2x pot?) What is villain calling/folding on this river.

I didn't play any online for a week because I was still on tilt I guess and didn't feel like I actually wanted to play (when I play despite the feeling that is when I have those -10BI days).

I still played in the home games this week and I didn't do to good. One session I did +$100 after 5 hours and in my other home game I went -$600 after 5 hours. It was pretty sick, I rarely let tilt affect my play when playing live, but after losing 2 flips for 100+bb on the flop I guess I let it get to me given that I "felt" that I was too good to lose to the players there. The money wasn't the biggest part that made me sick when I was going home. It was the degen tendencies that I felt arising at the end of the session.

After my JJ lost to K8cc on a 1067cc flop and my Ks9sQh9h lost vs 53xx on Q53ss I was down about $500. The game was about to end at 1am and all the players were happy with their winnings (courtesy of me dumping money on the table lol). One sick gambler straddled for $20 OTB and there was a caller I had a hand AKJ (game we play called pineapple, can use 0-3 cards from your hand) and shipped it pre, lost to QQ7, aite cool.

Everyone was cashing out and the degen was saying "I got a $260 that I don't even want, who wants to cut for it?" (high card, whoever picks up the higher card wins). everyone is a scared money player there so no takers and I had about 1k in my pocket and I am steaming from losing to these guys lol. I start negotiating and thought about challenging him HU for rollz but that would come off bad but I didn't want to give him a fair 50-50 shot at winning possibly the rest of the roll on me. He even challenged the whole table to rock-paper-scissors for rollz and this put me on insta-tilt as I love rock-paper-scissors lol. I literally tanked for about 5 minutes but convinced myself that he probably has edge even on those games as I'm on sooo much tilt.

Finally I said no thanks, and walked out with my tail between my legs. I know it wasn't the money because I lost 1k+ pots and didn't bat an eye but something about losing at that game put me on dragon-fire tilt. So I was able to conclude that it was my ego and I dealt with it and feel much better now. My friend also helped me out with some encouraging words so I'll be ready to crush again this week, regardless of results.

At the end of this week (sunday) I will post an online and live graph. I still want to get out of 4NL by the end of this month so I better start putting some volume in!

Past two sessions live: -$500

Alright so here is the January update. I am pretty disappointed with my work ethic this month, I only put in around 10k hands online and about 60 hours in live. I always decided that I was too tired from work (I never knew that working can be so draining) to play and that really ruined my chance to make money.

Online, I actually had two good sessions as I desperately tried to put in some hands at the end of the month. It was enough where I actually should be able to get out of 4NL again by next month if I put the work in. I feel very comfortable and feel like I beat 4NL.



Live, I actually didn't even go to any underground games. I just played in the home game 10 minutes from my house and another equally soft home game around 40 minutes away. I always had to put short sessions in as I had to tell my parents I was out somewhere else while I try and put volume in just to prevent any problems within the house. (My parents don't like the idea of me playing, I had a talk with them before as I tried to explain in detail, but they just won't have it. I understand their concern and that they are just looking out for me so I have to adjust to what I think is most +EV. I also never asked my parents for money and also started paying for household things since I started playing so I can't really understand why they just won't at least passively support me but I guess it is out of my control.) Can't wait till school starts for me again, I'll live on campus and keep the grind on the mind.



So positive on both areas of poker but a very weak month volume-wise. I will try to put in at least 25 hours live and 15 online a week. I also work 40 hours a week so this will be a sick challenge for me as I also have to hang out with friends, work out and do normal human stuff. I think I will try writing down a schedule on a calendar or something and see if it will help me manage my time.

Goals for February:
-15 hours Online a week (12k-15k hands)
-25 hours Live poker a week
-Crush real life work 35-40 hours (sleep a minimum of 6-7 hours so I can be alert and be optimal)
-Cook and eat a cleaner diet so that my exercise will have better results (and stop eating at Taco del mar and Panda express every day)
-New setup for my room until I move on campus

"They say hard work pays off, wrong it pays good as hell"
Lots of work to do this month, LETS GOOO!!!

Just a quick update, haven't hit all my volume based goals but I am making progress.

So far my volume:
Live: 28.5 hours +$900
Online: 8k hands -$7.80

So based on the goals I set for February, it looks like I am at around a little less than half of where I want to be. If I push real hard for the rest of the month, I might be able to catch up and hit my goals. I won't force anything though as I don't want to tilt/play bad just to hit volume (maximizing win rate + life EV still comes first).

I also will post more often and try to get some people involved in ITT again, I know I haven't been doing a good job in that part. Wish me luck, Ima try and finish this month out strong.

And if I have any LLSNL readers, what do you think of this hand?

Back Story: hand from 2 days ago. Game is 1/3 NL. It is a raked house game with a pretty regular group of people. A lot of the people play in the same other games in the area but the game is open to the public. I would say the the table is full of weak regs/reg-fish rather than full of weak call stations and clueless people.

Villain sits down and is new to the table and bought in for $300 and has $400 at time of hand, no showdown but won on the river with a bet, can't remember much in terms of the board texture or lines taken. played for about 30 minutes. Older guy maybe 45-55 and has reading glasses on, overall looks like a manager at a gas station or something, demeanor doesn't reek degen I suppose. Also seems to know a few people at the table. I can say tighter than the table avg but I saw him limp from LPs and buttons so I know hes not aggro.

Hero young relative to table, wearing a hoodie (with hood up lol) and earphones (don't usually do this but this venue is cold as hell and these guys are not all giddy and laughing like a home game, some degens trying to get unstuck, I would assume like what it would be like at a casino maybe? might be seen as aggro, raise big preflop over limpers since I am playing TAG tonight with only premiums, game is 9 handed so what can you do. Won AI with KK and JJ, took a couple pots down before showdown. I think I only limped 1 hand from LP. I threw 1 light 3 bet with KTss OTB vs his late open but didnt show and took it down OTT with bet bet line.

Hero (BTN): $650
CO (Villain): $400

Preflop: Hero is BTN with KQ
4 limps, CO raises to $15, Hero Calls $15, all folds. HU to the flop.

Flop: ($46) QJ6(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $40 CO snap calls.

Turn: ($126) 7 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero starts counting out bet...bets $95, CO super-snap-call-beats hero into pot with a stack of chips he didn't even count but is a few chips over my bet but not a raise. My heart stops for a second from shock since I had earphones on and I was staring at felt.

River: ($316) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero Bets $200

Results: To be continued

I like your avatar.

GL!

Snaps from weak regs and fishes usually indicate some draw or weak hand(low pair, draw).

On river, extract value, bet like ~125$. If we get raised, close, but call if you don't have read on him that he's quite passive.

Haha thank you sir. New Vegas fan ITT?!

Ring-a-ding, baby.

GL.

ty sir. I see you around in the LLSNL so good to see a fellow live player ITT. You play 1/3 or higher?

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Been taking some hits online lately and idk why but I feel like I have a subtle form of tilt as of late, probably from my live games and not sleeping. I have not been playing good live or online. I took the last few days off and I will skip all my live sessions for the next few days and study instead. I need to to do some yoga or figure something out to get rid of this tilt.

Anyway the online roll is at $172 and I will try and pump some volume to get to $200 by the end of next month, which is the next few days. I think 4NL is tilting me too, need a change of scenery.

I made enough to pay off my friend too so I'll ship him the rest of his money ($1500) and I can grind in peace now without that hanging over my head. Now its time to make a profit, I am looking forward to starting fresh next month with some updated goals.

Alright February is done, time to move on to march. Online didn't do good at all, played B.E. the whole month then lost about 5BI's playin HU vs what I thought was a weak reg but he crushed me for a decent clip right when I was supposed to hit my $200 mark lol. For the live side I did decent, I made enough to pay off my friend in full with some vig and still have a small roll for myself. So this month I will be really motivated because the money this month is all me.

Online for the month: -18.82
Live for the month: +$1183








So with that my roll online is $150, I am going to 10NL anyway. I will stop if I hit $100 but I realized I need to be more aggressive because my goals are big and I can't get stuck at 4NL. I will also try and take advantage of Carbon promotions more so hopefully that can add a bit to my bottom line. And oh, I need to get better (stop spewing) so I can beat 4NL for more than 4bb/100

Live I haven't been getting volume in but I think I will try some small MTTs and try to bink a few this month. I think the theme this month will be studying. I need to focus more and thinking before making a decision. I have been really spewy this past month so time to fix that up. More posted hands, more participating in the forum, less reading BBV.

“To acquire knowledge, one must study;
but to acquire wisdom, one must observe.”
― Marilyn Vos Savant

Gotta see the whole picture this month, GL to everyone putting in work this month!

TheySuited,

Hope we both have a better March than February. Just wanted to give my opinion on this one.

If the preflop raiser is weak, fishy, whatever you want to call it, then you should not flat call with a hand like Q7s. You risk getting 3 bet by the action after you, which is exactly what happened. By calling the 3 bet you put yourself in a very tough spot because there are not many flops you can comfortably continue on. You are more than likely not going to have enough equity in a 3-way hand with Q7s to keep putting money in the pot.

I know what many people think here is that Q7s is marginal, but will be a monster if I hit so I will call and have great implied odds against two other players. True, but you will also leak a ton of chips if you do that consistently. If you make a good sized 3 bet, isolate the preflop raiser, and then c-bet the flop, your fold equity will be much more profitable than hoping for a miracle flop with these hands.

Update time

Alright roll is at $103. So much for my enthusiasm with my 10NL shot. Time for me to stop being a little b**** and beat 4NL-10NL already. Everyday from now on, I am posting minimum 1 hand and 3 hands I will comment on. I am glad I failed my shot in ONE fricken session, I laugh at the poker gods trying to tilt me, come at me I ain't stopping even though all the 10NL regs laughed at me on the table. I'll be back in a month or two, ready to get whats mine. Everyone at 4NL better hide their kids, hide their wife cuz I'm taking everyone's money out here!

btw thanks for the analysis on the hand laura, I was too tilted and had to get that off my chest before replying lol.. I played that hand a while back and everyone pretty much agreed that that hand was very unnecessary speeeewww. I cringe when I see that hand but I can only learn from it and will continue to post my worst/unsure hands and try to remove those from my game. Slow process but its gotta be done. I hope I can continue to get good responses on the hands I post.

Subscribed. Also playing 4nl on Carbon.

Yeah that Q7s hand is pure spew. Fold pre.

GL.