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Originally Posted by fozzy71
he isn't going to be playing 1/3 if his history of doing what he says he is going to do is any indicator of his future actions
You sir have already correctly predicted the future.
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Now imagine a game where the action goes:
Open limp 1x -> limp 1x -> limp 1x -> raise to 8x -> 4 callers
33bb/100 should easily be attainable at those games.
One of your biggest problems is that you think everything in poker comes easy. A lot of people go into poker because they don't want to actually work for a living. Unfortunately, poker takes a lot of work and I'd say the word "grind" barely touches upon how tough playing poker for a living can be over a lengthy period of time regardless of how good you are.
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Dropped $1300 today at 2/5.
Well I lost $150 playing this daily MTT and the other $1150 at 2/5. Feels pretty bad dropping 2.5k in 2 days, especially given that all of this was at NLHE, no PLO at all, and I resisted the temptation to play 5/5.
Some hands included:
1) Getting my stack in with 99 on a T93T8 board, only to run into T9o. How does he even show up with T9o when he's UTG on a 9-handed table? Standard stuff at the low stakes
2) Check-folding river with KQo (no spade) after facing a $230 bet into a $210 pot on a Ts Js Qh Qs 5c board. Was pretty happy with this one, since villain showed me QTo, but damn, why isn't he being punished for flatting a raise with QTo?Standard stuff at the low stakes
3) Overbetting into a capped range against a guy that I thought was a decent player and had a fold button. He ended up stationing me off with TPNK. I would've taken this same line with TPGK+ too but I just happened to be bluffing this time.Standard stuff at the low stakes
4) Turning the nut straight on a KTXQ board, only for my opponent to find a hero fold with QT.Standard stuff at the low stakes
5) Raising pre with AK twice and AQ twice and whiffing all 4 times.Standard stuff at the low stakes
6) Set mining about 8 times, missing 7 of them and getting stacked on the 8th one (see hand 1).Standard stuff at the low stakes
Good info from a recap perspective but I wouldn't be focusing on bad beats if you want to improve.
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Overbetting against capped range
$2/$5 blinds, 9-handed, $500 effective. Villain is a late 20s WG with headphones, doesn't seem like a station, but I've only played with him for 1 hour so can't be too certain with how he plays.
Villain limps $5 MP
Hero raises $25 HJ with AJhh
Villain calls $25
Flop ($52) is Ks Ts 7h
Villain checks
Hero bets $35
Villain calls $35
Turn ($115) is Ks Ts 7h 5c
Villain checks
Hero bets $80
Villain calls $80
River ($272) is Ks Ts 7h 5c 2d
Villain checks
Hero jams $360
Villain calls $360 with K8dd
Fwiw I play KQ the exact same way.
Running straight line bluffs like this vs unknowns is really bad. If you think this is how you make money at low stakes you are not yet a winning player. One of the biggest keys to winning at poker is patience and you seem to be the opposite of patient.
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Sleep deprivation. Stuck in the crossroad.
For the past 3 nights, I haven't slept properly. This has caused me to be tired and consequently get tilted/bored easier when I'm grinding. Whilst I do attribute most of my losses these past few days to just run bad, I do think that I made some high variance decisions that were barely +EV at all, due to boredom. For example, iso raising ATo in the Lojack after 1-2 limpers isn't really that great of a play. I'd fold here if I wasn't tired, tilted and bored. Completing junk from the SB is another thing I've been doing too much of, as well as flatting too much from the BB just because I'm "already in for 1bb" and "closing the action".
So one of these days was beyond my control: the inspection day when I had to leave my apartment before 9am. But the other days were like, my girlfriend would wake up at 9am and that would half wake me up, then I'd try to go back to sleep but I'd feel this rush of energy telling me "you're a professional poker player now, you need to wake up at 9am every morning and quit this sh*tty nocturnal sleeping cycle", so I'd wake up feeling great, seeing the beautiful sunlight outside, but once I showered and got to the casino, it would struck me that I've only had 6hrs sleep per night. Enough to keep me awake, but little enough to keep me tilted.
Work keeps me up late. Work keeps me there till 1-2am every shift, and then I end up eating a meal after work and sleeping at 5am.
A part of me wants to just quit work today so that I can finally move on. I can finally fix my sleeping pattern once and for all. I can finally sign up to the gym. I can finally throw my work stuff away and move past it all. When you've made a firm decision to do something, but then you have to wait 2 weeks before you can actually do it, it's a bit frustrating. I want to become a pro now. I don't want to wait a week. But I have to, just because it's bad etiquette for me not to.
These last 7 days couldn't possibly go any slower...
I think you are understating how important sleep is. When you are tired at the table you recognize you are tired but you're not going to fully understand how much it truly affects your game. When you go through your hand histories the next day don't just brush it off as run bad and minor mistakes. You made a lot of mistakes that bad losing players make. Your focus should be on avoiding those mistakes in the future, not on the fact that you've run bad.
Back when i first started grinding 2/5 back in 2011/2012 I had a $1500 stop loss. I'm assuming you have one as well. With a little bit of run bad, a single mistake is all it might take to send me home early for the night rather than having the opportunity to grind out a win for the night. I can't tell you how many times I've had significant run bad and still managed to have a winning session/month/etc. Run bad is going to happen. It's unavoidable. Your mistakes are 100% avoidable.
BTW, one of the most significant edges you can gain over your opponents is a sleep edge. If you are able to sleep weird hours and play graveyard after quitting your job then I would recommend it. If you think low stakes players are bad during the day you'll be amazed at how they play late night when you are wide awake.
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Last week I pulled a friend aside and we had a "no BS" talk about win rates. This guy is a top player in my room and plays lots of 5/10 and some higher stakes. I specifically told him "I dont care about what you hear people saying. What do you think top end win rates are at 2/5 here?"
He said he thought there "might" be 3 guys in the room who could make $45/hr playing 2/5 in this room. This guy himself, who like I said does play higher stakes, said his lifetime win rate at 2/5 was under $40/hr
Another good player Ive talked to recently said he thought high $30s was the max obtainable. Of course if you play only late evenings and weekends you can improve on that.
Ive said plenty of times that my 2/5 games are very nitty so top end win rates are lower than other places, but Yes, there are very very few people who can make $50+/hr at 2/5. There are more people lying about doing it than the ones actually doing it.
Bolded the part that I knew was a caveat before reading your post. Apples and oranges comparison between your room and a donktastic one.
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
Bluffing someone with no history seems like a bad idea in a vacuum. The problem is with no history there is a good chance your opponent will be more likely to call you since you are unknown to him as well. Of course if you have the right read or feeling sometimes you gotta let it rip!
People don't like to fold hands in live poker.
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Population tendency is to call too often. That's why live poker is so soft in the first place. The maximum exploitable line should be to bluff less than you would against good players, especially when they limpcall in the very same hand. Sure you don't technically make a mistake when you are balanced but good luck triple barreling unknowns and all the variance that comes with it. In fact do we even know how often OP triple barrels here if AJs is in it? He might bluff all the spades, all gutshots, all open enders.
I guess theoretically it's not a major mistake to be balanced in these spots...maybe, sorta, i dunno probably not but what I do know is that you should not be balanced in these spots if you like money whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
A 0% bluffing frequency at llsnl isn't that big of a leak.
About 5 years ago I had a couple sessions where I lost a lot of money bluffing and I decided to play 1/3 to test out a non-bluffing strategy. My goal was to only play my hands for value and only semi-bluff in spots where i had strong equity (ace high flush draw, pair and a flush draw, etc). I made it about 3 hours into my experiment and realized this was not in any way a good strategy for me. Players at these low stakes levels are so exploitable that I'm just burning money by not bluffing them off their hands. That being said, I still think value is bread and butter to low stakes poker.