confirmed no ICM early in a tournament is cash game players nonsense

So I just found out that the guy who busted me from the $550 turbo tourney was neuronpoker - he streams 500nl and 1knl online and he's an absolute crusher.

I labelled him as a reg but holy sh*t I didn't realise he was this good.

Crypto must have hit him pretty hard to be playing a $500 live turbo when grinding 500-1k online

Or he heard 6bet was in town and decided to bum hunt for giggles?

Maybe he was just playing for fun. I played a $35 pub poker tourney a few days ago too. Nothing wrong with a bit of cheap entertainment to take a break from your regular games.

If he wanted to bumhunt me, he'd come to my cash game tables.

You have a net worth of like 4k. $35 tournaments are BR appropriate.

Wtf no. Appropriate for me is 2/5 NL cash or maybe $400 tournies. I could do 5/10 NL shots too.

And I have almost $20k to work with. You can't just look at my "net worth".

Your lack of understanding of finances is hilarious and disturbing all at the same time.

Aren't there any T/20 or 5/T/20 games going? T/25? Maybe you should convince your 2/5 table to start playing with a $5 ante.

u gusy realise he is playing 2/5/10 1k max which is equiv to 5/10

i think OP should take his shot at playing the high roller tourny. if u win ur rich if u lose it doesnt matter because it's not ur money. winwin

wait op plz tell me u realise ur playing 5/10 and are memeing

Right now I'm playing 2/3 NL.

But yeah I do realise the 2/5/10 is effectively a 5/10 game. I took some shots and they went well, but I plan to put in most of my volume at 2/3.

2/3 500max is like 2/5 but with 2/3 players. take advantage of it

I will try my best. I think it's definitely softer than 2/5 in Melbourne. And the 2/5 in Melbourne is pretty soft haha.

not sure about melb, but yeah it's free money. 55/hr over a dece sample. some other regs even moved down from 2/5 to play it. gl make sure ur table changing heaps

6,

The vast majority of poker players I know who made over a million at poker were more aggressive moving up stakes than you.

Not saying you should do the same, just sayin’.

Running bad against maniac

Played a 6hr session of 2/3 NL today and ultimately lost $838. At first, the table was fairly tight and I'd slowly grinded up $500 profit in the first 4hrs, but then a maniac sat down and the table went crazy. My luck changed and I proceeded to donate over 1k to the maniac, who then donated it to the rest of the table.

The funny thing is that the maniac had originally bought in for $800 (even though the buyin was $100-$500), but we all kept quiet because we wanted him to play deep-stacked with us. He would play literally 100% of hands and would pull ridiculous overbets with complete air all the time. So here are some hand histories:

Hand 1: Before the maniac arrived

$190 effective, 6-handed
UTG limps $3
Hero raises $20 MP with KJdd
SB calls $20
UTG folds

Flop ($44) Ks Td 4s

SB checks
Hero bets $25
SB calls $25

Turn ($89) Ks Td 4s Jh

SB tanks then jams $145
Hero calls $145



Hand 2: My first pot against maniac

$410 effective
UTG limps $3
Hero raises $25 UTG+1 with AKo
UTG+2 calls $25
Maniac calls $25 MP
UTG calls $25

Flop ($95, 4ways) T93r

UTG checks
Hero checks
UTG+2 checks
Maniac jams $385
UTG folds
Hero calls $385
UTG+2 folds



Hand 3: Round 2 against maniac

$500 effective
UTG blind raises $7
Maniac calls $7 UTG+1
4 other callers
Hero 3bets $70 BB with AJo
Maniac calls $70
Everyone else folds

Flop ($162) T98 two-tone

Hero checks
Maniac jams $430
Hero calls $430



Hand 4: 3ways with fish and maniac

$500 effective with maniac, $250 eff with fish
Maniac raises $6 UTG
2 callers
Hero 3bets $40 SB with ATss
Maniac calls $40 UTG
Fish calls $40 BTN
Everyone else folds

Flop ($116, 3ways) Jd 9d 8h

Hero checks
Maniac checks
Fish bets $50
Hero jams $460
Maniac folds
Fish tank calls $210 all-in



Might play another session later tonight, since I'd planned to put in 8+ hours today, but right now, I need a few hours break to mentally recover.

ak seems spew

idno when u realised he was a maniac but i would prob just borderline start jamming pre/making it much larger even though u seem to have adjusted ur preflop sizes in the right direction. if he's not folding 93o to $70 he's not folding a2o for all in/150

He was more of an aggro maniac than a station maniac. I actually did see him call $20 then fold to a $105 squeeze pre a different hand.

H2 is mega ******ed. Deservedly stacked. Maniac owned the whale.

Dream table with maniac. Ak AJ both overplayed tho

Doesn't seem like the sort of table you want to bloat the pot with ATs out of the small blind either

Yup. How I normally approach maniacs sitting at my table is:

1. Make a hand.
2. Value bet the heck out of them.

It’s not a pretty and shiny strategy like all of the veteran strategies that you’ve talked about ITT. But it seems to work.

You jammed a couple of draws (ie, semi-bluffed) into a maniac that is not folding bottom pair on J98. I know that AT will have a decent amount of equity etc etc. I’m just saying...if villain is going all in whenever they make a pair, there are probably situations you can get into with him where you an 80% favorite instead of a 47% dog.

You guys do realise that most maniacs have a very short expiry date? They rarely stay at the table for more than 1-2 hours.

You can't afford to pass up on marginal spots when you might only get 3 hands against the maniac before he busts to someone else and you never see him again.

Obviously I'd have preferred it if I could actually hit the flop with my AK/AJ/ATs, but that didn't happen, and I just have to work with whatever I'm dealt.

Hand 2 spewy esp with someone behind that likely realizes what's happening.
Hand 3 seems fine.
Hand 4 probably close but fine.