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Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals

11-16-2018 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I came up with it myself. It's about motivating myself to compete with better players and constantly strive to improve, rather than only playing against live fish all the time and becoming complacent.


Why don't you improve your bottom line?

Right now your net worth is like -15k with a vig.



What is your winrate at 25nlz? 2/5 live?
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11-16-2018 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I just find that 3-4 hour sessions feel the most natural... but I am trying to push myself for longer sessions, because I realise that 3-4 hours a day isn't enough.
Nothing says you have to play all 6, 8, 40 hours at once. Days are 24 hours long.
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11-16-2018 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by isunkurbttlship
Re losing players never win 30 buy ins. I'd check out the old stickyrice1 highlights on youtube. Massive whale but ran up some huge stacks on bodog before losing most of it back. Funny enough, he now grinds 2/5 or 5/5 for a living and does vlogs
The legend of sticky rice - check out the hand at 9 minutes to see the skillz


https://youtu.be/Gz2DD31vypc

He sat out with $37k at the 10/20 table over a ~5 hour session

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6bm, when talking about poker, it is probably best to exclude the words ALWAYS and NEVER from your vocabulary
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11-16-2018 , 12:38 PM
Since you're doing Ignition have you tried the double up or triple up turbos? These are SOOOOOOOOO nitty it can improve your patience game.

Double up Turbos are fun. Pop out a few for ten or twenty bucks. Either you win a couple hundred and maybe break even for the day, or you lose enough fast enough to motivate you to go play LIVE 2/5.
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11-16-2018 , 01:00 PM
Sticky rice was awesome. I loved it when he ran around the room in excitement and slowrolled the guy down to the last second.
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11-16-2018 , 01:15 PM
https://youtu.be/S2TJjFC1rNY

Rofl this was vs me. He ****ing hated me. The notes on me are pretty good. All in with a/k not suuted, we plugged his butt with j/j. All in with a/k top pair of king on flop
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11-16-2018 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sam1chips
The legend of sticky rice - check out the hand at 9 minutes to see the skillz


https://youtu.be/Gz2DD31vypc

He sat out with $37k at the 10/20 table over a ~5 hour session

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6bm, when talking about poker, it is probably best to exclude the words ALWAYS and NEVER from your vocabulary
I liked the hand when he checks and acknowledges the guy with a pair of aces wasn't going anywhere when the guy actually had the nut flush.
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11-16-2018 , 02:31 PM
That hand 5 with pocket jacks is something else.

You literally torched 2 sessions' worth of winnings with 1 shove. 10 hours of youth wasted.
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11-16-2018 , 04:24 PM
stickyrice1 lmao!!! those were the days!
Just like somone else ITT he didn't recognize AT ALL how good he was running and who he was up against.
He mainly played 6max NL2k, right? Remember when he slowrolled someone with top set for like 2 minutes running around dancing lol? what a tool...
And like someone else said his notetaking was absolutely legendary! Always went somthing like this: "this little **** **** tried to **** with me and he got ***** by me this piece **** clown *** b****"
Someone post that epic douchebag-boygroup-"music"-video of him! Can't find it. Turns out his stage name isn't stickyrice lol
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11-16-2018 , 04:28 PM
Relevance to this thread:
stickyrice won like 20-30 BIs in two days in (not very tough, but still...) 2kNL online games.
I can confirm, he did this by misplaying every hand to the max.
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11-16-2018 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
+1

Might be the dumbest advice I've read all year.
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11-16-2018 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
If I hadn't shown results, I think most people would argue that hand 3 is a fold. It's a 3way pot, the SPR is ridiculously high (20 SPR), I've shown massive strength, yet villain still wants to jam over the top instead of flatting in position. And I only have bottom 2pr.



Being up ~30 buyins at 2/5 NL is enough of a sample size. Losing players never make 30 buyins profit at an NLHE game; even during a sun run.
https://gyazo.com/b7a16adfd23cb736752a6633bae04380
67s could go either way on paper. If you realise Villain can have limped AK AA and overplay these hands then you can simply punt it off on flop. If villain cannot have AA, KK in his hand and wont overplay AK then it is a clear fold.
For most pros this hand is easy to play postflop as we can quickly discount combos and see that villain is either overplaying AA or has a set. If we haven't seen villain limp AK in the past then this could be a big mistake.
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11-16-2018 , 04:56 PM
OP uses terms like "never" wrt poker because he doesn't study, doesn't know the math around basic variance and doesn't talk at the table so he despises the other players despite not knowing them well at all. I played at the Bellagio yesterday and young dudes who think they're 10x better than they are is like 10% of the population and it's super ****ing annoying.
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11-16-2018 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Any2Cards2008
https://gyazo.com/b7a16adfd23cb736752a6633bae04380
67s could go either way on paper. If you realise Villain can have limped AK AA and overplay these hands then you can simply punt it off on flop. If villain cannot have AA, KK in his hand and wont overplay AK then it is a clear fold.
For most pros this hand is easy to play postflop as we can quickly discount combos and see that villain is either overplaying AA or has a set. If we haven't seen villain limp AK in the past then this could be a big mistake.
could go either way if we had 0 dollar put into the pot.... in this case it's not even close
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11-16-2018 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
OP uses terms like "never" wrt poker because he doesn't study, doesn't know the math around basic variance and doesn't talk at the table so he despises the other players despite not knowing them well at all. I played at the Bellagio yesterday and young dudes who think they're 10x better than they are is like 10% of the population and it's super ****ing annoying.
I would argue that the vast majority of people think they're better than they actually are, not just 10%
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11-16-2018 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
I would argue that the vast majority of people think they're better than they actually are, not just 10%


Proven fact. Psychologists have always confirmed.
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11-16-2018 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
I would argue that the vast majority of people think they're better than they actually are, not just 10%
I think what he means is that 10% of the population is young dudes that all think they are better than they are.
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11-16-2018 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
OP uses terms like "never" wrt poker because he doesn't study, doesn't know the math around basic variance and doesn't talk at the table so he despises the other players despite not knowing them well at all. I played at the Bellagio yesterday and young dudes who think they're 10x better than they are is like 10% of the population and it's super ****ing annoying.
OP has probably been constantly fed the narrative that "confidence is everything in life" and he saw that people with less skills got further ahead in life due to their confidence/ego + strong people skills.

So naturally, he translates that into poker. Unfortunately, confidence means very little in poker. You can be the most confident person in the world but if you don't have the skills/hardwork to back it up (which OP doesn't), you will inevitably lose.
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11-16-2018 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
I think what he means is that 10% of the population is young dudes that all think they are better than they are.
you're right it may be what he meant, my mistake
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11-16-2018 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
could go either way if we had 0 dollar put into the pot.... in this case it's not even close
Woops sorry that is what I meant> pre putting in the $250 3bet. This hand add to variance. which fine but OP just needs to know that its high variance spot
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11-16-2018 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fodersneso
stickyrice1 lmao!!! those were the days!
Just like somone else ITT he didn't recognize AT ALL how good he was running and who he was up against.
He mainly played 6max NL2k, right? Remember when he slowrolled someone with top set for like 2 minutes running around dancing
Stickyrice's brother was a full time poker pro at the time. Pretty sure Sticky knew he was sun-running.
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11-16-2018 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Being up ~30 buyins at 2/5 NL is enough of a sample size. Losing players never make 30 buyins profit at an NLHE game; even during a sun run.
Your understanding of variance is GREENER than green So you are telling me you never saw an absolute maniac-drooler win (and cash out) 20+ BIs in a session!?!?! Maybe you should get out more and spend more time in the casino
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11-16-2018 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 4_4
+1

Might be the dumbest advice I've read all year.
Yah it's cause you didn't understand the point of my advice. Obviously I'm not suggesting he follow the second option, I am pointing out that there are only TWO ways to create structure. The first one, the logical way. Or the second one, the illogical way, but currently he is too focused on whether he is up or down only in a session and not on a plan of any kind.

And I didn't literally mean $1000 per day. I was just saying, he has to figure out his nut and play to make that if he only wants to worry about money every day. He can't be switching back and forth all the time between worrying about schedules and worrying about how much he is up or down.

I assumed people were smart enough to realize the second option is basically impossible and therefore he must default to making a schedule based on hours grinded.

Edit: Though I am still amazed that I continue to write this thread when, good or bad, the advice is ignored anyway. I should just read and enjoy the comedy and not post.
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11-16-2018 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
I think what he means is that 10% of the population is young dudes that all think they are better than they are.
Correct. Obviously nearly everyone has a slightly off sense of their own self, but the Bellagio grinder crowd is different from most other NA rooms.
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11-16-2018 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Correct. Obviously nearly everyone has a slightly off sense of their own self, but the Bellagio grinder crowd is different from most other NA rooms.
It's exactly the image I have of OP. Some young guy wanting to be a poker pwo, thinks he knows a thing or two about GTO and feels like he has to run over the whole table every hand to be good. Too entitled to realize their mistakes and too lazy to do anything about it.

Oh and I am still pretty young, so not hating on them. Well I do think my generation and that after it is a poor product but that doesn't affect my judgement of the invidivual.
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