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10-31-2018 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Good thing nobody took you up on this.
Unless 6bet me puts in two 13 hour sessions in the next two days, you've got $1000 coming to you. Have your paypal set up to receive the money.

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Originally Posted by Petrucci
This. Also, can we get update on bankroll situation? Losing 1K+ in the first 2/5 session+ running living expences+makeup on the 1/3 stake, i would guess we are in the 18K neighbourhood at this point or even below that?
I figured he's about $1200 in make up, lost $1200 this week and his weekly nut is $600. After he pays .isolated, he'll be down to $16k.
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10-31-2018 , 06:41 AM
I'd take $1k to end his pain quicker but idk why he'd give it to me for missing his goal. I didn't prop bet with him.
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10-31-2018 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
I'd take $1k to end his pain quicker but idk why he'd give it to me for missing his goal. I didn't prop bet with him.
If you don't want it I'm claiming it.

1k aus is only like £550 but still easy money for no work.
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10-31-2018 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DuumaPomm
I bet deep down OP knows he is already failed at this.
He is just delaying the end, because it is nice to have money in pocket and the illusion of possible great outcome. When he runs out of 20k he no longer can lie to himself.

From here on probably most all his sessions will be short 2-3 buy ins one way or another, because the reality of swinging few k is too painful.
Truthbombs delivered.
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10-31-2018 , 06:52 AM
Well thanks for alerting me, Venice. Sadly, I don't think I will cash in on this as it was a different list of goals

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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Free $1000 if you catch me breaking any rules
For the next 6 months (26th October 2018 until 26th April 2019), I will give $1000 to anyone who catches me breaking any of the rules below:

1. When at the casino, I will only play 1/3 NL and 2/5 NL.
2. I will only play live poker between 8am and midnight.
3. I will not play any tournaments.
4. I will not drink alcohol whilst playing, or play whilst under the influence.
5. I will not lose more than 2k in a night.
6. I will not play any casino games other than poker.

If multiple people catch me in a session, then it's just whoever catches me first.
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10-31-2018 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Good thing nobody took you up on this. Continuing:

What's that plan again?

Oh.

A cheetah never changes its spots.
Well spotted. Time to pay him $1k, OP.

But notice how OP only selectively replies to posts? He ignores everyone who tells him the truth. So sadly he will ignore your post.
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10-31-2018 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Well spotted. Time to pay him $1k, OP.
I really only made that post to show 6b how far his eye is off the ball right now from where he wanted to be and it's only day 5 and to turn it around.
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10-31-2018 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Well spotted. Time to pay him $1k, OP.

But notice how OP only selectively replies to posts? He ignores everyone who tells him the truth. So sadly he will ignore your post.
This is a very important part in order to maintain the delusional world he lives in: blocking out what he doesent want to hear, and focusing only on the few comments that can strengthen his safe bubble.

Same principle can be observed if you look into why religious fanatic groups is able to brainwash people and maintain it over time: they often cut them off from the real world, either by isolating them for example in the woods long away from the society,and/or painting enemy pictures of people who doesent share the same brainwashed views as the group. The people who could potenially bring some nuances into their lifes is seen as "haters", "they dont understand us" and that kind of stuff. You effectively create an echochamber.
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10-31-2018 , 07:31 AM
Op youre living in fantasy land. You should try playing open face.
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10-31-2018 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
This is a very important part in order to maintain the delusional world he lives in: blocking out what he doesent want to hear, and focusing only on the few comments that can strengthen his safe bubble.

Same principle can be observed if you look into why religious fanatic groups is able to brainwash people and maintain it over time: they often cut them off from the real world, either by isolating them for example in the woods long away from the society,and/or painting enemy pictures of people who doesent share the same brainwashed views as the group. The people who could potenially bring some nuances into their lifes is seen as "haters", "they dont understand us" and that kind of stuff. You effectively create an echochamber.
Very true, totally agree. To OP, anyone who doesn't fit in with his own delusional narrative of how awesome he is at poker is deemed a "hater" who he "must prove wrong".

This is actually a really dangerous mindset for OP to adopt, because he will keep spewing off money in games he can't beat, in a desperate attempt to "prove all the haters wrong", blaming all his losses on "variance".
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10-31-2018 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Very true, totally agree. To OP, anyone who doesn't fit in with his own delusional narrative of how awesome he is at poker is deemed a "hater" who he "must prove wrong".

This is actually a really dangerous mindset for OP to adopt, because he will keep spewing off money in games he can't beat, in a desperate attempt to "prove all the haters wrong", blaming all his losses on "variance".
Bingo.
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10-31-2018 , 09:35 AM
It's still not to late to drop the entire roll on a red/black.


Or put it on a big omaha game.



Double that chit up, this bleed out slow thing is boring.
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10-31-2018 , 09:36 AM
Yeah if I come back in 24 hours and there isn't at least a $2k swing on the books I am going to be a very unhappy camper.
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10-31-2018 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Well thanks for alerting me, Venice. Sadly, I don't think I will cash in on this as it was a different list of goals
This.

I offered to do a prop bet but no one took me up on that, so that offer has expired now. If you catch me breaking any rules, then I'll still pay up, but nowhere in my set of rules is volume written there.

In regards to the "you only reply to specific comments" - Yeah that's because it takes ages to reply to everyone. I'm already spending hours every day on 2p2 as it is. I read every reply, but I don't respond to each one individually.

Besides, most comments are just replicates of themselves. Like there'll be 10 people saying "you're a delusional gambling addict who overestimates your own abilities and blames all your losses on variance". So surely it's more efficient for me to just make a general statement that addresses everything at once.

I didn't play any live poker today or yesterday, but I'll almost certainly play on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

My logic was that the games are usually mediocre Monday to Wednesday anyway, so if there's ever a time to take a day off and play online instead, it should be one of those days.
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10-31-2018 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by StinkHolePatrol
It's still not to late to drop the entire roll on a red/black.


Or put it on a big omaha game.



Double that chit up, this bleed out slow thing is boring.
I'd have to pay a 1k fine if I played a different game, so there's hardly any incentive for me to do that.

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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Yeah if I come back in 24 hours and there isn't at least a $2k swing on the books I am going to be a very unhappy camper.
I hope so too. My stoploss is 2k, so any swing above that is a win for me.
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10-31-2018 , 09:40 AM
6b if your coach didn't laugh his ass off at the $7ish setmine with 77, fire him now.
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10-31-2018 , 09:42 AM
Since today is the 1st of November, the "sober November" challenge has started. Going to avoid alcohol completely this month. GL me.
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10-31-2018 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
This is actually very true. While normally 50% of profits would be outrageously expensive, it actually makes a lot of sense here. If he plays 1k hands a day, chooses the ones similar to his live leaks, then has the coach look at those, he's actually coming out way ahead. It would save a lot of money from hiring a real coach too.






No. Not even close. There was a lot of very solid advice given to you which you ignored. I imagine largely due to this:



If you look at the people telling you that QQ rarely gets it in good vs a NIT 3 BETTER AT A FR TABLE, then somehow see it as "People say every player only 3bets KK+ from all positions" then maybe the problem is with how you read the advice and not the advice that is given. You realize that the advice your coach gave "QQ rarely gets it in good utg vs a bb 3bet" against an unknown at 6max is far nittier right? It's still correct, but far tighter than what people were saying, yet you fought us the whole way and I doubt you did with your coach. I doubt your coach even went into as much detail as this:




I will say that a lot of the tone in here (myself included, so I'll be withdrawing my contributing of cancer to this thread soon) is negative, but I imagine this largely has to do with you. You seem to ignore, and sometimes even fight, excellent advice given to you in this thread. This drives away the people who want to help out, and attracts the people who are just watching in order to see your inevitable downfall.

It seems like the main difference between your coach and the free advice you receive here is that your coach is willing to coddle you a bit. "Grey zone" is a very nice term for "total spew" except "total spew" is far more accurate for a lot of this. You're getting advice from players beating higher limits than your coach, and far higher limits than what you're beating, but you ignore it because you think you are already that 0.3% crusher you aspire to be and are just held back by variance. (seriously how does the nit show up with KK in that spot? Total cooler!)

It's even worse that you are ignoring the financial advice. Has anyone told you that taking the 20k loan was a good idea? If you somehow found a person who thought it was a good idea, then did they say why? Either way why do you think it's a good idea to ignore everyone else who is more well versed in financed than you? (not expecting you to actually answer that)


Anyways this'll be my last serious post. Good luck, and I sincerely mean it.
needs to be reposted
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10-31-2018 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me

My logic was that the games are usually mediocre Monday to Wednesday anyway, so if there's ever a time to take a day off and play online instead, it should be one of those days.
I calin u out on this one. You claim this is the softest game in the world, and you claim that you can crush, and you claim that all the 2/5 regs are sht.

So now the games are mediocre mon-wed. Please explain
I personally have played as much 2/5 as anyone post bf. When My kid was preppin to go to college it was go time for me in terms of making money. Guess what - I took a day off ONLY when I needed it - otherwise i was in the casino kickin ass and taking names and cranking out hours.
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10-31-2018 , 10:30 AM
Squid, are your results posted on 2p2 at all? Would be interesting to see a large sample.
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10-31-2018 , 10:34 AM
I believe I have a 3k hr graph up there. I promised one day to put em all up. Need to get the records that I have in storage on the other side of the country and put em in my app. Sample is over 10khr
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10-31-2018 , 11:00 AM
Yep. Best way to beat variance into submission and exceed earnings goals is with quality volume. Should be consistently hitting a goal of something like 60hr/wk.
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10-31-2018 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MMSS
If you don't want it I'm claiming it.

1k aus is only like £550 but still easy money for no work.
Solidly +EV if the hours etc. can be somehow verified. Pretty scummy though taking money off an indebted gambling addict, even if the situation only exists because he's stupid and arrogant enough to propose wagers he must know he won't win. That, or he realizes it doesn't matter if he doesn't win. If he loses said wager he is almost certainly flat broke and 20k+ in debt so what's another 1k some guy across the internets is trying to collect?
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10-31-2018 , 11:59 AM
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10-31-2018 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
Solidly +EV if the hours etc. can be somehow verified. Pretty scummy though taking money off an indebted gambling addict, even if the situation only exists because he's stupid and arrogant enough to propose wagers he must know he won't win. That, or he realizes it doesn't matter if he doesn't win. If he loses said wager he is almost certainly flat broke and 20k+ in debt so what's another 1k some guy across the internets is trying to collect?
I mean I would take the money, OP needs me to otherwise he'll never hold himself accountable (that's what he said right?). The freeroll and prop bet are different things though unfortunately.

It's debatable whether being hung over still constitutes as being under the influence of alcohol. If you drank that much the night before you 100% still are so I'll take that 1k aud.
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