care to elaborate more?
I know what you mean in general but maybe you know more than me and shine some light on chit i didnt know.
Thanks!

This is probably just pitch on the flop tbh. Villain is a super nit so I would need a damn good read that he plays draws aggressively.

QQ hand I would fold on the flop because he has big made hand or big draw dont think this guy has alot off air in his c/r range!If he has big draw we have almost the same equity and I think if you call flop you have to call turn and river so its bluff catch!!gl bro

i actually had a note that said he played turn draw aggressively. He also had c/r of 1/5.. small sample though. Btw, his AGF was 6.. so even though his pre range is tight, it doesnt mean he isnt capable of bluffing or semi bluffing. A combo draw like 45d is possible there considering he called from BB.

The 45% bet on turn made it feel to me like alot like a semi bluff as opposed to value betting a big made hand. I was going to fold on flop but i looked at PT note and his aggression told me not give up just yet.

Of course his agression factor is high, because he's only coming into the pot with strong hands.

That's not necessarily true. He opens only 6.45% of hands which are his monster hands..assumeing he 3bets his AQs,AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AKs/o.. the remaining 13% of hands he calls with are not huge hands. 13% into pokerstove while removing the monsters gives us all Axs, 22+ and broadways. Putting that range vs QQ on that board gives us 70% equity over his range.. whereas on that board if it was an Ad instead of Kd, i would be more inclined to fold flop because that hits is range alot more than a Kx type hand

Heres my 10nl graph so far.. been a fair bit swingy..still adjusting alot


[img]http://s15.************/syw08gih7/10_NL_5k_hands.png[/img]

Couple of big hands,

Should my c/r have been bigger in this spot?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $9.03 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BTN: $13.80 (VPIP: 24.77, PFR: 17.43, 3Bet Preflop: 7.32, Hands: 113)
SB: $19.08 (VPIP: 22.42, PFR: 15.67, 3Bet Preflop: 6.10, Hands: 460)
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $2.30 (VPIP: 32.69, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
MP: $13.02 (VPIP: 28.99, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 142)

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.40, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) J Q 2
Hero checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, CO raises to $2.30, Hero raises to $7.70, CO raises to $8.63 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.93

Turn: ($18.11, 2 players) K

River: ($18.11, 2 players) 8





Another similar hand.


PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $13.81 (VPIP: 25.23, PFR: 22.43, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 108)
MP: $10.47 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 4)
CO: $6.86 (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 29)
Hero (BTN): $10.77
SB: $10.05 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: $8.06 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95, 3 players) Q 6 2
BB bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.60, BB calls $1.30, CO calls $1.30

Turn: ($5.75, 3 players) 9
BB bets $3.00, CO raises to $4.96 and is all-in, Hero raises to $8.87 and is all-in, BB calls $3.16 and is all-in

River: ($23.03, 3 players) 4

I get what you're trying to say, but I don't necessarily agree with it. Sure he has a wider calling range pre which includes all those hands that you mention, but plug in the hands that are in his preflop calling range that actually raise the flop and see how much equity you have.

According to my calculations, if he raises every nut flush draw, 66, 22 and KQo/KQs, you only have 26.8% equity.

Yip what Old Timer says is right you calculate his pre range on that board and not his c/r range big different!!Even if you put some bluff in his range you are still crushed against his range!!!Yeah this time you made the right play but longterm its EV-.GL bro crush those fishes

Yep, you guys are certainly correct.. long run this is definitely a loosing play. Thing is at 5nl i would fold this 100%.. but at 10nl i've been upagainst so much crazy unnecessary aggression that i'm calling down alot lighter! Thanks for the response btw

haven't played much today, been out all day. Dropped 3 buyins last night during a small session though.. 500 hands haha. had a bluff where vill called me down with 3rd pair in a 3bet pot lol , 3bet pot with AK v 22, and a couple of unlucky rivers for me.

I'll put in more volume tomorrow hopefully

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 141.2 BB (VPIP: 29.26, PFR: 17.55, 3Bet Preflop: 6.58, Hands: 198)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.75, PFR: 10.78, 3Bet Preflop: 11.43, Hands: 103)
Hero (SB): 128.8 BB
BB: 114.4 BB (VPIP: 93.02, PFR: 20.93, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 43)
UTG: 100.9 BB (VPIP: 20.32, PFR: 14.32, 3Bet Preflop: 2.61, Hands: 438)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BB calls 9 BB, UTG raises to 30 BB, Hero raises to 128.8 BB and is all-in, BB calls 104.4 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 70.9 BB and is all-in

Flop: (329.7 BB, 3 players) 7 Q T

Turn: (329.7 BB, 3 players) 7

River: (329.7 BB, 3 players) 3



*** me man, this hand pissed me the off so bad!! Q7o.. for fks sake! Was having a great session.. up 3 buyins but now down 2. Then variance hit me hard, got a few coolers and top of the range vs villian.. also idiots calling my 4bet OOP with A2s.. ******ed!
such is variance... stopped playing before i go on monkey tilt or something haha will play later once cooled down.


[img]http://s23.************/6g95of5qj/******s.png[/img]

Gl my fellow convict

gl man will be following! and you should be happy about ppl stacking off w Q7 haha

mucho gracias!

haha i was stoked, but just p1ssed how the board panned out. THanks for support man

Hey guys, have a few questions with some hands..


So this hand, i'm farily sure this dude has QQ,JJ when he checks turn and even so when he checks river.. but how often can i double barrel TT and not get called down? I'm most likely getting called if i bet river no? i feel i played this way to passive!

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 182 BB (VPIP: 34.64, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 157)
UTG: 79 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (MP): 101.5 BB
CO: 113 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BTN: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 275.5 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 102)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 4 A 8
BB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (40.5 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (40.5 BB, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero checks




So here i have a note on villian that he 3bets very light IP with marginal hands. NO way i'm getting out of this hand no? Had a similiar hand like thsi before with QK on KQT board for stacks on flop as well.. am i stacking off to light on a board like this? It's fairly drawy too.. so i assume hes doing this with 9Qc, QJc, AK?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 105.3 BB
MP: 513.9 BB (VPIP: 11.63, PFR: 9.30, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 176)
CO: 171 BB (VPIP: 20.43, PFR: 13.98, 3Bet Preflop: 13.19, Hands: 388)
BTN: 77.4 BB (VPIP: 20.22, PFR: 19.12, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 465)
SB: 22.7 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 70 BB (VPIP: 15.87, PFR: 12.70, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 64)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J T

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 9 BB, fold, SB calls 8.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (28 BB, 3 players) T A J
SB bets 13.7 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 40 BB, CO raises to 162 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 56.3 BB and is all-in

Turn: (234.3 BB, 3 players) 8

River: (234.3 BB, 3 players) 9




Does my 4bet turn my hand face up? Probably played this WAY to aggro and folded alot of his bluffs and his overs! Would x/c and x/r or donk turn been a better line? Felt i lost a stack here

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 128.7 BB (VPIP: 25.20, PFR: 18.30, 3Bet Preflop: 3.73, Hands: 385)
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 82.2 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
UTG: 181.9 BB (VPIP: 12.42, PFR: 9.17, 3Bet Preflop: 2.55, Hands: 496)
CO: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 16.45, 3Bet Preflop: 7.49, Hands: 1,011)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 3

fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB, fold

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) 3 2 2
Hero checks, CO bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, CO raises to 20 BB, Hero raises to 54 BB, fold



Heres another one where i possibly played to passive or an idiot.. i bet 50% on river as a thin value bet on his TP or QQ type hands, but dunno if i should've cause of the 4card straight out there... I don't know if i got bluffed out or what. I wonder what he is x/rAI with on that river, i dont think hes doing that with a straight so mustve been a backdoor flush?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): $21.52
BTN: $9.85 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $10.15 (VPIP: 36.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 31.25, Hands: 30)
BB: $11.29 (VPIP: 18.03, PFR: 8.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
UTG: $9.85 (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 26)
MP: $17.22 (VPIP: 24.39, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 41)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 6 7

fold, MP raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) 7 K 5
MP bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75, 2 players) 6
MP bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

River: ($4.35, 2 players) 8
MP checks, Hero bets $2.00, MP raises to $15.12 and is all-in, fold




Here's 10NL graph so far.. not to happy with the results tbh. Way to swingy.. no consistency! Almost at the start of every session i lose a stack or half a stack too.. dunno if its variance or my mental game at start of a session haha
i think i stack of to light.. could that be a reason for these swings?? Might even be calling down to light against certain villians
[img]http://s8.************/r1jal3zz9/10_NL_15_K.png[/img]

Heres a hand where i trapped two aggro guys to my left. Yeah small sample on both of them.. but the BB was a very 3bet happy dude from blinds... every steal from sb/btn/co he wa s3betting

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $17.12
SB: $10.05 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 6)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 38.24, PFR: 35.29, 3Bet Preflop: 29.41, Hands: 34)
UTG: $11.14 (VPIP: 16.92, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 65)
CO: $11.07 (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 34)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K K

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB raises to $1.10, Hero calls $0.80, SB calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.30, 3 players) 2 3 6
SB checks, BB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($7.80, 3 players) 2
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50, fold

River: ($16.80, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB calls $2.95 and is all-in

Dam, i wanted to unlock this $50 stellar reward which ineed 1.6kvpps for before end of year so i tried playing some real volume.. usually i play 6 8 tables.. tried 12-15 and got ***** crushed...

So many coolers.. made me sick. Dropped like 7 buyins in 2 sessions in 5k hannds. Couldn't seem to win anything.. gonna stick to 6 tables. Fk this bonus reward

can't wait to smash this mini downswing up, and get back on top.
Played a few sng's and HUsng's and up $20.. now back to 10nl after a bit of studying.
yeaahh buddy!!

Glgl man! Also playing 10nl @ stars, what's your SN if you don't mind me asking?

GL man

aussie aussie aussie ....GL ;P

Thanks man, i've probably seen you around a bit.. i'll keep my SN on the DL for now haha

Thanks t1tties
thanks mate, appreciate it

5dollars and I will give you his SN haha !!No iam just joking its not for sale

i'll tell my SN if someone gives winkel a blow job


Alright, so here was my horrid sesssion. The drop till $80 was 2 sessions.. But i made back half of it on the same day! Frustration at constantly running into top of villians range made me make loose calls and try some ****ty bluffs.. bad bad plays. Had a few set over set, straight over straight, river sets etc.. the usual. High dose of variance mixed with bad play is a bad recipe.. i have to work on mental game a little more!! if it wasnt for my bad play i think i could've at least saved 2 buyins
I was able to make half of it back playing like 5 hours later with a cool head.. thank you sweet baby jesus
[img]http://s30.************/ixdjy8x75/10_NL_8_BUYINS.png[/img]


And here was tonight session.. i played really well and had a alot of bad villians on my table calling me down super light and won an all in flip with AK v JJ! I was a little to passive in some spots though cause of the bad beat session before. Thats another thing i have to work on, not letting previous sessions affect my current play. Every session should be a clean slate
[img]http://s27.************/5tqs0d33n/10_NL_UP_6_BUYINS.png[/img]

THis was a hand in 2nd graph which i feel i played horribly!! UTG tanked for ages before folding so he mustve made a big laydown, maybe JJ .. i 4bet WAY to big, basically turned my hand into a bluff. Only hand calling me there was KK and MAYBE QQ. Thoughts on flatting in that spot? I think i might have flatted if i was IP but being OOP i don't know... my thought process was utg had a pretty tight UTG range and MP had a fairly tight 3bet range so one of them might have had KK/QQ.. :/

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $12.82 (VPIP: 20.54, PFR: 17.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.87, Hands: 1,102)
CO: $4.45 (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 17)
BTN: $10.00 (VPIP: 20.25, PFR: 17.58, 3Bet Preflop: 6.93, Hands: 1,227)
SB: $16.03 (VPIP: 17.81, PFR: 12.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)
Hero (BB): $10.71
UTG: $11.11 (VPIP: 21.94, PFR: 19.36, 3Bet Preflop: 9.23, Hands: 1,550)

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A A

UTG raises to $0.24, MP raises to $0.87, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, fold




And heres a hand vs spewy aggro bluff happy villian.. Had tagged him as a fish before cause he cold called a 3bet with 47o and did some other **** before that.
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $11.31 (VPIP: 17.81, PFR: 17.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 73)
UTG: $15.38 (VPIP: 37.93, PFR: 27.59, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 30)
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $8.95 (VPIP: 16.18, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
SB: $12.91 (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 25)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J A

UTG raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.05, 3 players) A 2 5
UTG bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, UTG calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.05, 2 players) 4
UTG bets $3.70, Hero calls $3.70

River: ($10.45, 2 players) 2
UTG bets $4.80, Hero calls $4.80