Hey thanks for tuning in!

Your right in that I am being a little harsh here, Im not going to go crazy and fold sets all over the place, its just I think against this villain on this board its a fold.

I left his EP PFR out because it was only a 250 hand sample (it was at 7%) im not sure if this is regarded a decent sample for this stat or not lol.

EDIT: Im deffo railing your thread. Your a shredder lol.

Flatting pre flop is fine because you can stack him when you hit your set. You hit your set and got it all in. Play is fine. Just a cooler that he had a higher set. Do you really think he wouldn't take this line with AK?

Dear mr Run Bad.
I'd like to thankyou for your presence at my session today, however, I am writing to regretfully inform you that you will no longer be needed by my side. I have decided your brother, doctor RunGood, would be more suited to the job.
Yours faithfully, Will.

Stake 25NL
Hands Played 1100
Profit -$27
Bankroll $710

Hands of the day Happy to have not tilted and kept losses to a minimum.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($34.78)
BB ($13.16)
UTG ($24.75)
UTG+1 ($15.57)
MP1 ($23.90)
Hero (MP2) ($25.25)
MP3 ($26.41)
CO ($67.70)
Button ($85.92)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9, 9
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero bets $1, MP3 calls $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.25) 9, Q, J (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, 1 fold, SB raises $9, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.50

Turn: ($22.25) 10 (2 players)
SB bets $24.78 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $22.25


***** Hand History for Game 24392903599 ***** (Full Tilt)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 03, 04:32:36 ET 2010
Table Isis (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: ruutuyheksa ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 2: OMG its LUCKBOX ( $46.72 USD )
Seat 3: wacko1 ( $31.74 USD )
Seat 4: radu570 ( $17.67 USD )
Seat 5: Neumabr ( $37.21 USD )
Seat 6: naruto143143 ( $8.40 USD )
Seat 7: hilly347 ( $14.71 USD )
Seat 8: II razor II ( $31.84 USD )
Seat 9: chancasweb ( $26.53 USD )
ruutuyheksa posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
OMG its LUCKBOX posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to II razor II [ Ad As ]
wacko1 folds
radu570 calls [$0.25 USD]
Neumabr folds
naruto143143 folds
hilly347 folds
II razor II raises [$1.10 USD]
chancasweb folds
ruutuyheksa folds
OMG its LUCKBOX folds
radu570 calls [$0.85 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 4d, 3s ]
radu570 checks
II razor II bets [$1.75 USD]
radu570 calls [$1.75 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
radu570 checks
II razor II bets [$3.85 USD]
radu570 calls [$3.85 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
radu570 bets [$10.97 USD]
II razor II calls [$10.97 USD]
radu570 shows [8c, 8s ]
radu570 wins $33.91 USD from main pot
II razor II doesn't show [Ad, As ]

who doesn't? Good luck, u have potential.
3betting depends on the opponent and his position, Im 3betting CO raises with KQ for value some opponents and calling with JJ against others. I played six max tho.

Getting annhilated at 25NL the last few days. Not by regs, by fish. I don't know if im spewing or it's variance. It's so dissapointing because if been busting my ass to get better. Also, this is the first time ive experianced a 3BI Downswing and it's getting to me lol.. Im determined however to crush the *** out of the micro's and get to Small stakes within the next 3 months. After ive played 25K hands at 25NL im going to purchase empathy's DB leakfinder course. Anyway, 8k hands at 25Nl for a dissapointing 2PTBB/100 WR. Moving down If my BR hits 650.

Stake 25NL
Hands 756
Profit -$25
Bankroll 685

Hand of the day
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($22.13)
MP3 ($25)
CO ($8.75)
Button ($10.39)
SB ($56.30)
BB ($19.30)
UTG ($30.11)
UTG+1 ($7.75)
Hero (MP1) ($25)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
2 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 3 folds, Button calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) A, K, 5 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.55, Button calls $1.55, 1 fold

Turn: ($5.45) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button raises $8.09 (All-In), Hero calls $4.09

River: ($21.63) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $21.63

Your first 3 BI downswing!? Extremely normal at any stake, a pro could have a 3 BI downswing at NL2 so don't worry about it at all..

Your right, im just being a pussy.
I'm going to put in another session today. *** variance!

Did a HH another HH review. Noticed in some spots I was checking when I should have been value betting and betting when I should have been checking.

So away I went and played another session and it went well.

Stake 25NL
Hands 1100
Profit +$29.30
Bankroll $713

This really isn't that bad. I am pretty sure I play it exactly the same if it makes you feel better

Also get used to a lot worse than 3 buy-in down swings. As you move up and your edge decreases variance will become more severe. 3 buy-ins is a daily occurrence. You need to prepare mentally if 3 buy-ins gets to you. Sooner or later you will run worse than you ever though possible and you will need mental strength and bankroll management to survive.

Your absolutely correct, this is something I really need to wrap my head around fast!
I think the reason this DS got to me is because instead of 3BI = $30. 3BI = $75. Thankfully I chose to follow a 30BI roll with 25BI move down, or I may have gone into meltdown.

Poker is crazy..

Stake 25NL
Hands 1000
Profit +$85
Bankroll $790

Hand of the Day

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($25)
BB ($26.75)
UTG ($38.59)
UTG+1 ($9.54)
MP1 ($29.61)
MP2 ($16.45)
Hero (MP3) ($25)
CO ($108.59)
Button ($10.44)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, A
4 folds, Hero bets $0.75, CO raises $2.25, 2 folds, BB raises $6.75, Hero calls $6.25, 1 fold
I flat to bring CO (fishy player) along. Usually I 4Bet

Flop: ($16.35) 8, 5, 3 (2 players)
BB bets $9.48, Hero raises $18 (All-In), BB calls $8.52

Turn: ($52.35) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($52.35) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $52.35

Better yet, poker is easy. I also have been playin at nl25 and for the first few shots I felt that I was overthinking my game. About 5k hands you will feel much more comfortable and won't even think of losing 3 bis as 75 bucks. 3 bi is absolutely nothing like many others have said and if your looking for some good reads on te pyscological aspect of poker, pick up poker mindset and I also liked poker winners are different. Keep up the good work

Thanks for stopping in

Your right, 3BI DS are super standard. I guess the $ amount was insignificant compared to how vulnerable I felt at 25NL. It felt like I was making all the wrong plays when infact nothing had changed. It was putting me on life tilt and I spent hours going through my HH nitting out everything and anything. I think now that it's over, I look back and think it was actually good for my game. The confidence hit made me study balls to the wall, and critisize standard plays aswell as non standard plays. On the whole, ive noticed more leaks in the last DS then in my last fortnight. It will also condition me for next time and give me hope now that I know theres light at the end of the tunell.

Schools back and grinding time will be limited to like 20 - 30 hours per week
On the brightside, Im not playing like a ****** :].

Stakes 25NL
Hands 1.2K
Profit +$39
Bankroll $835.

Hand of the day
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($18.20)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($35.41)
CO ($24.97)
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($26.01)
BB ($6.88)
UTG ($39.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, 4
4 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero bets $1, SB calls $0.90, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.50) 2, J, 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls $1.75

Turn: ($6) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.75, SB calls $4.75

River: ($15.50) K (2 players)
SB bets $10.92, Hero raises $17.50 (All-In), SB calls $6.58

Total pot: $50.50

Took some chronic beats and tilted off $350 off at HU cash and as such im punishing myself by playing NL10 untill ive grinded out $500. Will be putting in sick volume to get back up to 25NL asap. Im giving myself 10 days to do so. This will make me think twice next time im considering being a f*** head.

Stake 25NL
Hands 500
Profit -$80
Bankroll $650

Me after tilting off half BR Angry and determined.


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Yea tilting half the roll in one session is never a great feeling. Great discipline if you can make the 500 back at nl10 before you jump back into nl25. I know thats always been a tough task for me.

do you mean your profit was -180 in that last session?

Ive got a grind plan on my wall for 70 hours done before sunday week.
That should be enough to grind back $500.

As for the BR, I lost $80 in my session and tilted off $350ish. I then reloaded back up to $650.

My BR hasn't been accurate throughout the thread because of my RB. It comes once a week.

Ah I understand. Good luck with your new goal.

Thank god for RB by the way. lol

Due to some life issues I havn't played many hands during my 'grind of shame'.
The graph below is my first few thousand hands of the regrind. Still have about $500 left to grind untill I have completed my 'grind of shame' (Recovering $ lost from tilt x2).

However, some fantastic news, just had a major AHA! moment. It has to do with 3Balling which has cost me a ton of money. So I expect my WR to increase a fair amount after I have put my revelation into practice. Ill share details of the aha moment next time I post.

Grind of shame graph (Pre Aha moment)


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My grind of shame is officially over.
I recovered a little less then the amount I tilted off but it has had the same effect (Learning a lesson).
Back to 25NL for shot taking. Will post graphs and stats and aha moment after my session.

Ugh! 25NL hates me! I get set > Set then lose AIPF my AK v AQ fish a super aggro fish both for 100BB's.
$500 is my stop loss before I grind back up to $600 then take another shot.

Okay so I had an aha! moment not long ago and it was to do with three betting. My two leaks / Flawed thinking were:
1. 3Betting light from sb and BB only. - I watched a video on DC and something someone said triggered me into thinking about 3Betting light. I was so stupid not to be doing it from the BUT, CO and HJ against the right type of villain. Also only doing it with K4o and not hands like KJo.
2. The rules of bet/check/fold are different in 3B pots. - Self explanitory, it's the same situation as any other post flop play except the rangers are tighter.

10NL grind of shame:


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Some of that is pre grind of shame, I grinded my roll up to $600 from $300ish during the period.

Hit my 25NL stop loss.
Grinding roll up to $1000 and spending $250 on coaching to sweat my 25NL shots. I try and play like ivey and spew every where . FFS!:@

nice challenge and plan of action, how many tables you playing at once?

it is better to 3bet KJo than K4o

Yeah I know. Before my AHa moment I was 3balling K4o and not Kjo. Obv. rectified now.
I was tilted when I wrote the post so I didn't explain things clearly.