Maybe so. It could be a subconscious thing. Thanks for the advice.

I will try this.. When I'm ready to start grinding again I will start playing the 2/4[4] tables. They're generally a lot softer and even though there's more in the pot pre because of the ante, it still plays a lot smaller than the 5/10 5c games, which is what I've mostly been playing.

Maybe move to Texas or Florida and play some real poker not that PLO cash crap.

Real poker is No Limit Texas holdem in tournament format. To get you started here's some GTO strategy pre-flop for 7BB deep stack on the button with no antes in play.

Shove first in

22+, A2o+, K2o+, Q2s+, Q7o+, J5s+, J8o+, T6s+, T8o+, 96s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s

What's the point putting on all that muscle when you get no glory playing PLO cash against a bunch of degens when you could get your photo taken standing next to 2 hot chicks at a final table of a WSOP or WPT event? Then afterwards they will suck your dik because your a winner. All that finely tuned gym work will pay off when your looking at yourself in the mirror while getting sucked.

you wanna quit because you lost 10 100bb buy-ins? Maybe go play live full ring limit holdem in 1996 or something.

Quaddeuce, are you still an agent? Did your (somewhat) passive income surpass what you were making from playing?

No need to answer here, but I am just to raise the potential issue of what I assume is human nature, that once you start making more monies from other avenues that are seemingly less difficult then the poker grind, it is quite a normal tendency that the brain wants to preserve its brain power and does not want to invest its energy in poker... Think back at the crypto-boom of 2017 (was it 2017...???) where so many grinders decided to become day crypto-traders overnight, right, as the swings/income of poker seemed like crumbs in comparison. In hindsight, it was quite the mistake. Taken advantage of an opportunity should definitely not be frowned upon, but for someone like myself that has been playing professionally for a decade+ and that has reached a more mature age, BRM is of UPMOST importance and I would definitely NOT place all my eggs in the same basket - is that even the expresion!??! Anyhow, for someone like yourself that is younger and has proven to have degen tendencies, given up on the bread and butter might be even moreso tempting...

If I am off the mark, disregard this post As always, gl friend

Lmao you created a troll account just to post this. This made me laugh though, thanks man haha.

Eh it's pretty much dried up. When I first started it was sweet. I was making 2-3k week during the height of quarantine. But eventually the whales get sick of losing and never came back and now it's only crushers that expect the best RB deals left. I'm making pennies off of them. I think I made probably around 500 last week.

Still nice to make an extra 500 a week passive income but I'm not going to be able to retire off of this. I'm going to have to find a new passive income source or actually start playing/winning at poker again sometime soon lol

I think what you are feeling is very natural. I've been playing a similar number of years now at this point and my love for poker and the grind is very very different from what it once was. Someone genuinely still loving and being passionate about playing and studying poker after so long is pretty rare. Less to do with poker itself and more so just how it works with doing any activity day in and day out for a long time.

The avoidance of the swings that come with the games you are currently playing in also makes a lot of sense. It could be the fact that you are a bit under rolled so the prospect of a downswing wiping out a big chunk of your net worth could be possible. Or it could even just be the game itself and knowing that you could easily find yourself in a 30 buyin downer at some point and want to avoid ending up in that mental rut of feeling buried and having to dig your way out of it. Personally for me I'd say that's the main thing I'm fighting with in the later years of my career. I appreciate what the normal swings of the game are and that it's just part of what it is to play poker, but a part of me is just pretty over the idea of going to work for awhile and coming out with less money even though the actual $ amount of the swings has no effect on my life.

You've also hit a point net worth wise now where you probably feel pretty comfortable. There's been a lot of studies that show most people struggle with starting to coast a bit once they've hit a point in their life where they are okay with the current level they have achieved.

Gl!

Grunching
I haven't been following this forum at all of late, but will definitely be following your thread.
Welcome back young man.

Waaat? Ya been back since mants?
I have a lot of catching up to do. lol.

Quad if you have no motivation to play atm maybe that's because you got no offspring to provide for. Maybe knock up a few fine ass women and have a few kids. Then you will need to play.

It's loosely estimated that around 17 to 35 million people today are descendant from Genghis Khan.
Around 35 million Americans are descendant from the Mayflower. This illustrious list includes people as diverse from the Bush's to Richard Gere. I'm guessing Quaduece can possibly make that claim.
All you have to do is make sure your genes live on, which we can suspect our hero has made sure of.
Raising all those brats yourself? Blah.

well hero has to do more of it while getting away with it as much as he can. Hero is a peasant compared to Genghis Khan just like 99% of us are. And for hero to emulate it as a peasant or ruler in this day and age he's likely to die before he achieves anywhere near Khan.

Tyman you just hit the nail on the head. This describes what I've been feeling lately perfectly. I kind of feel like "I've made it" and now am terrified of the possibility of a big downswing wiping out a lot of my hard work, which is very possible.

I'm going to take a day or two off still and then move down in stakes and get back to work. Nothing wrong with grinding mid stakes. I can always move back up when I'm feeling confident again. LFG.

Thanks for taking the time to reply and following the thread all. GL on the grind

Lmao. Naw I'm of Polish and Filipino ancestry mostly.

Ohh really, cool Do you speak another language then English?

Ah, I see that now, thinking back on the picture you posted a while ago.
Don't feel bad, I'm Greek, so no Miles Standish in these veins either. Maybe Achilles?

Main thing, as Nick the Greek used to say.. I think? You're back in action baby!

I would say you were too greedy at the beginning, I remember when I asked you you offered very low deal without mentioning that it's possible to increase it. I started as well working as an agent few months ago, but was offering very good deals and it was growing every week since started, was not making much at the beginning but now all those small amounts are coming closer to 5 figure earnings in a month.

Since you have good Instagram page you could still probably turn that into decent passive income.

Btw buyin Tesla is such degen move but I it.
Dream car

is making money being a agent legal?

Carl Trooper chill out bro. It was entertaining at first but it's starting to get annoying bro.

That's sick bro. Congrats on your success. How do you do it? You advertise your services and take on a bunch of randoms from FB or IG I'm assuming? That seems to be the game plan for most agents I've seen.. I'm pretty hesitant to take on randoms because it's so easy to get scammed by bad faith actors. All of my players i know IRL except for 2 that I met off of 2p2 and 1 from IG. Everyone else is a friend/acquaintance from the poker world or a friend of a friend that got a hard vouch from them.

But no new players have came in awhile and a lot of my old players quit when casinos re-opened or were massive whales and got tired of losing every time they played. Any advice? I'll send you a DM

P.s. any agents on here reading this DM me and we may be able to work something out that is mutually beneficial to both of us... Or any one that has considered agenting before and have a few friends that you could sign up hmu... Games are the softest anywhere online so it could really be a win-win-win for me, you, and your friends

+1

Just read the whole thread instead of working.
Very interesting stuff on here.
I really apprechiate how honest you are. But it‘s the only way to improve. To be ho est to yourself. Gg

I don't advertise much, write from time to time in my thread, I never posted in Instagram or facebook about it, luckily got one big agent under me, 1-2 readers from 2+2, but most are my friends and friends of players playing under me. Now when it's already good money I see that I need to advertise to make even more of it.

I played a lot under different agents and know how it should be done so players are satisfied, also giving good deal helps a lot. I know from before lot of agents doesn't want to work for small margins, and I was thinking the same, recommending so many players to the other agents without thinking about thinking that small % could add up to a lot of money over time.

I'm not taking randoms without deposit, but have good connections and skype exchange groups so if they are in same group someone reputable can vouch for them so that makes things easier.

Thanks bro. I learned about the concept of neuroplasticity a few years ago and became obsessed with this idea. We can literally change the shape of our brains by changing our thoughts. By changing our habits, changing our self talk, using the power of positive reframing, we can create new neural pathways in our brains and literally become a new person. It's hard work but no one is stuck where they are at life. If you're willing to put in the work you can be anything you want to be in this life.



Sick man. Same strategy as me then. I think the problem is I just don't have many friends lmao.

Op have you thought of playing 12 card PLO with 3 decks used?

Agreed ^

12 card PLO w/95%+ required VPIP seems like the way to go.

plo 4, 5 and 6 card can suck my balls. 12 card is the best game in the world.