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Finally Zooming out of the Micros, 25z-100z 6max Finally Zooming out of the Micros, 25z-100z 6max

08-29-2016 , 11:40 AM
Late night/early morning in europe when there aren't many players online overall is prob when the pool is at it's softest, especially from mondays-thursdays. While weekends seems pretty soft all around, wouldn't think too much about it tho cus there's still plenty of recreationals at all time.

Re QQ hand, river is too thin plus I'd expect him to bet TT ott a lot. Clubs obv never fold to your river sizing and worse never calls, so it's a check for me.
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08-29-2016 , 12:32 PM
AQo hand I believe you are putting too many hands in villain's range on the river, I wouldn't run that bluff too often and you will see both 4b and flat from AK ip at 50z

QQ def too thin and 66 flop raise sizing looks fine-ish, I def would prefer doing it small-ish so it looks fine

I don't like calling 89ss, with that sizing I wouldn't mind x/r

Yeah Aussie day time is most likely the optimal time to play if you're looking to make money/get out of downswings etc but 50z and lower is basically always regfish & fish heavy.

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Wasn't planning on bum hunting per se but rather organising schedule to play at a higher ev time
Yeah that's kinda bumhunting, you should play on your schedule and not care about the field much at these stakes, care once you shot take the higher stakes

gl anyways, sub'd
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08-29-2016 , 12:54 PM
Tbh if one were to try bumhunt the LSNL ZOOM pools they would adopt your new approach. If you aren't confident to play at any time then I wouldn't be playing there full stop.

Gl with your goals.
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08-29-2016 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Clanty
If you aren't confident to play at any time then I wouldn't be playing there full stop.

Gl with your goals.
+1

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08-29-2016 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by meale
Only 100 players online and only 7 of those entries are 4tabling, 3x 3tablers. Obv if 1 tablers are fish this is a good time to be playing.

Does anyone know what the best times to play zoom games are and what criteria they use?
I opened my lobby at Stars and I have more green-tagged (fish) and yellow-tagged (spewy/plays bad) 4-tablers than 1 tablers. Generally I have actually found 1 tablers more difficult to play against.
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08-29-2016 , 04:15 PM
Play whenever,all are bad
especially maxde and cheltnham
gl btw
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08-29-2016 , 10:31 PM
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QQ def too thin and 66 flop raise sizing looks fine-ish, I def would prefer doing it small-ish so it looks fine
Why do you def prefer doing it small-ish and having 1.5ish spr on river?

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gl anyways, sub'd
Thx

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Tbh if one were to try bumhunt the LSNL ZOOM pools they would adopt your new approach. If you aren't confident to play at any time then I wouldn't be playing there full stop.
OMG lol, you can't bumhunt zoom guys. It's impossible. If you play 100 hours a month at BEST time vs WORST time, obv you'll get a meaningful difference to results. That's not negligible for me.

So many people swinging their dicks around like i don't care bout no regs.

Also never said I wasn't confident to play at any time. It would be stupid not to play at the best time though if it's doable.

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Play whenever,all are bad
especially maxde and cheltnham
gl btw
lmao :')



vs 12/9 over 90 hands, not sure about turn play. If we just call, what rivers are we check folding on and what ones are we donking (and what size) on? Or is turn shove fine? I feel like the shove just iso's us vs a range that has us pwnt.

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    BTN: $50 (100 bb)
    Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
    BB: $50 (100 bb)
    UTG: $62.27 (124.5 bb)
    MP: $144.36 (288.7 bb)
    CO: $51.45 (102.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
    3 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4.50, BB folds, BTN calls $3.25

    Flop: ($9.50) 4 J K (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $4.51, Hero calls $4.51

    Turn: ($18.52) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $12, Hero raises to $40.99 and is all-in, BTN folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $42.52 pot ($2 rake)
    Final Board: 4 J K 2
    BTN mucked and lost (-$21.01 net)
    Hero mucked A A and won $40.52 ($19.51 net)



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    vs same guy, can't see him over shoving worse, don't think he rly has any bluffs though. weird spot

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      BTN: $95.12 (190.2 bb)
      SB: $54.20 (108.4 bb)
      Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
      UTG: $69.79 (139.6 bb)
      MP: $50.73 (101.5 bb)
      CO: $90.04 (180.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
      UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1

      Flop: ($4.75) 2 T 9 (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $3, Hero calls $3, MP calls $3

      Turn: ($13.75) 8 (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

      River: ($13.75) 5 (3 players)
      Hero bets $7.50, MP raises to $46.23 and is all-in, 2 folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $28.75 pot ($1.44 rake)
      Final Board: 2 T 9 8 5
      Hero mucked T T and lost (-$12 net)
      MP mucked and won $27.31 ($15.31 net)
      CO mucked and lost (-$4.50 net)



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      This turn blows vs 23/17/5.9. He can have prob 2 combos of ATs and maaaaybe JJ if he calls w it pre. I don't think he ever raises turn with KQ which is why it's so sick when he shoves. Also we rep farking strong when we dbarrel so I'm wondering if we should have checked this turn? sucked out both rivers :')

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        BTN: $60.22 (120.4 bb)
        Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
        BB: $166.67 (333.3 bb)
        UTG: $78.07 (156.1 bb)
        MP: $63.48 (127 bb)
        CO: $50.35 (100.7 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 4
        3 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4.25, BB folds, BTN calls $3

        Flop: ($9) 4 K J (2 players)
        Hero bets $4.75, BTN calls $4.75

        Turn: ($18.50) Q (2 players)
        Hero bets $11.75, BTN raises to $45.50, Hero calls $29.25 and is all-in

        River: ($100.50) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $100.50 pot ($2 rake)
        Final Board: 4 K J Q Q
        BTN showed A T and lost (-$50 net)
        Hero showed 4 4 and won $98.50 ($48.50 net)



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        Hate this spot OTR but if he ever has suited broadway combos (like what he had) then I guess we gotta call. He should have a lot of his opening range pre given preflop action, would be a real hard spot holding Ks

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          Hero (BTN): $62.46 (124.9 bb)
          SB: $40.78 (81.6 bb)
          BB: $46.90 (93.8 bb)
          UTG: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
          MP: $45.95 (91.9 bb)
          CO: $94.10 (188.2 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
          UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $4.25, BB folds, UTG calls $3

          Flop: ($14) 9 2 3 (3 players)
          SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $7.25, SB folds, UTG calls $7.25

          Turn: ($28.50) A (2 players)
          UTG checks, Hero checks

          River: ($28.50) 4 (2 players)
          UTG bets $16.98, Hero calls $16.98

          Spoiler:
          Results: $62.46 pot ($2.00 rake)
          Final Board: 9 2 3 A 4
          Hero showed K K and won $60.46 ($31.73 net)
          UTG showed T Q and lost (-$28.73 net)



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          08-30-2016 , 12:22 AM
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          Why do you def prefer doing it small-ish and having 1.5ish spr on river?
          Yeah didn't see you were deep I was basing my thoughts on a 100bb stack on which I would've raised below 28bigs my bad

          H1: I don't like the turn jam especially vs a nit, I'd vary my river play depending on villain and said river
          H2: villains at 50z don't really have a balanced range in this spot so he is most likely never bluffing but I guess he might be valuing worse than TT after this action or spewing/tilting idk but you surely don't look as strong as TT here and his line doesn't say QJ much, it looks like he has 67 very often or always because he doesn't have J7, would need more info on villain i guess
          H3: I prefer x/c turn with such a dryboard but yeah he's most likely not jamming KQ ever here
          H4: Yeah can't fold KK on the river here after the turn check i believe
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          08-30-2016 , 12:27 AM
          AA has to be just a call, probably never getting called by worse if you shove. TT is never a fold and turn is probably a donk.
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          08-30-2016 , 12:45 AM
          McNaught,

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          H1: I don't like the turn jam especially vs a nit, I'd vary my river play depending on villain and said river
          This is roughly what goes through my mind too. But would you be able to answer the questions preceding the hand? <3

          mzbourg,

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          AA has to be just a call, probably never getting called by worse if you shove.
          Yeah IK, but same as mcnaught, could you try a couple of the questions re that hand? Ta <3

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          TT is never a fold and turn is probably a donk.
          I don't think I get to turn w enough bluffs to be donking TT but I don't mind it.

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          TT is never a fold
          y tho
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          08-30-2016 , 12:50 AM
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            BTN: $51.55 (103.1 bb)
            SB: $53.71 (107.4 bb)
            BB: $53.36 (106.7 bb)
            UTG: $55.26 (110.5 bb)
            Hero (MP): $67.98 (136 bb)
            CO: $38.75 (77.5 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
            UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 3 folds

            Flop: ($3.75) 6 3 3 (2 players)
            Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

            Turn: ($6.75) 6 (2 players)
            Hero checks, CO bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

            River: ($13.75) 9 (2 players)
            Hero checks, CO bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

            Spoiler:
            Results: $28.75 pot ($1.44 rake)
            Final Board: 6 3 3 6 9
            Hero showed A K and won $27.31 ($13.31 net)
            CO showed J Q and lost (-$14 net)



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            When we're blocking AQcc & AJcc, I think we have to call river. I tanked a fair bit tho.

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              BTN: $87.39 (174.8 bb)
              Hero (SB): $56.31 (112.6 bb)
              BB: $50.89 (101.8 bb)
              UTG: $75.55 (151.1 bb)
              MP: $93.99 (188 bb)
              CO: $52.68 (105.4 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is SB with A T
              2 folds, CO raises to $1.12, BTN folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BB folds, CO calls $3.38

              Flop: ($9.50) 4 8 6 (2 players)
              Hero bets $5, CO calls $5

              Turn: ($19.50) A (2 players)
              Hero checks, CO bets $10.50, Hero calls $10.50

              River: ($40.50) 5 (2 players)
              Hero checks, CO bets $32.68 and is all-in, Hero calls $32.68

              Spoiler:
              Results: $105.86 pot ($2.00 rake)
              Final Board: 4 8 6 A 5
              Hero showed A T and won $103.86 ($51.18 net)
              CO showed 9 T and lost (-$52.68 net)



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                Hero (BTN): $56.51 (113 bb)
                SB: $62.64 (125.3 bb)
                BB: $280.44 (560.9 bb)
                UTG: $52 (104 bb)
                MP: $50 (100 bb)
                CO: $40.58 (81.2 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
                2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, CO calls $1.50

                Flop: ($4.75) K K 5 (2 players)
                CO checks, Hero bets $1.53, CO raises to $5.50, Hero calls $3.97

                Turn: ($15.75) K (2 players)
                CO bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

                River: ($20.75) 3 (2 players)
                CO checks, Hero checks

                Spoiler:
                Results: $20.75 pot ($1.04 rake)
                Final Board: K K 5 K 3
                Hero showed A Q and won $19.71 ($9.71 net)
                CO showed A 4 and lost (-$10 net)



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                08-30-2016 , 01:01 AM
                I'd say AA is a c/c on probably every river and ''never'' a donk. Some rivers may be donks, I'm not sure, don't think so on first glance.

                I'm not worried about being balanced when we donk turns, it's just that it will check through an awful lot when you go 3 way to the turn. I don't play zoom, but villain is 12/9. I'm going to assume he doesnt have QJo, which leaves him with exactly 4 combos of better unless someone wants to give a 12/9 50nl zoom reg some 67s as well. We are extremely underrepped and he can actually shove worse for value because his worse is sets + he b/f previous hand, as ******ed as it may sound, he can actually have some KQ? Jx? bluffs?
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                08-30-2016 , 01:02 AM
                You fold top set to river jam in one hand, then call off stack with AT on that board. Interesting.
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                08-30-2016 , 01:35 AM
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                I don't play zoom, but villain is 12/9. I'm going to assume he doesnt have QJo, which leaves him with exactly 4 combos of better unless someone wants to give a 12/9 50nl zoom reg some 67s as well.
                Well ya, 93 hands though so this is likely not entirely accurate.

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                We are extremely underrepped and he can actually shove worse for value
                Why would anyone 3-4x pot shove worse when I'm uncapped. It'd make sense for him to raise the river with worse but this river jam size looks v polarising to nuts or a complete spazz out.

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                + he b/f previous hand, as ******ed as it may sound, he can actually have some KQ? Jx? bluffs?
                I only realised after the session that it was the same guy but the fact that he BF the previous hand in the review and then I see it's the same guy for this hand makes me think he could have more bluffs/spazz outs than the average nit here. I think if I'd known this at the time I'd have leaned towards call but still think it's much much closer than "TT is never a fold".

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                You fold top set to river jam in one hand, then call off stack with AT on that board. Interesting.
                Ofc both completely different spots but you already know this.
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                08-30-2016 , 02:33 AM
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                Originally Posted by meale
                Ofc both completely different spots but you already know this.
                and you really think your good more often with the AT than the top set?? I'm not a fan of those spots but i think you have to call with top set, and lead the flop actually. You only bet half pot on river so your range looks mediocre and most probably invited a spazz bluff. Jamming nuts there makes no sense.

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                08-30-2016 , 03:23 AM
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                and you really think your good more often with the AT than the top set??
                Ya obv, wrt pot odds etc.

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                and lead the flop actually.
                Why lol? This can't be good.

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                Jamming nuts there makes no sense.
                Jamming value I beat also makes no sense there. Neither does spazzing off your entire stack when I have every value combo in my range.

                Like I can fully see why people call here. But in my xp it's slightly more likely to be nuts than spazz.

                I swear this **** happens way more often than it did at 2NL...

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                  BTN: $44.33 (88.7 bb)
                  SB: $53.70 (107.4 bb)
                  BB: $73.35 (146.7 bb)
                  UTG: $57.32 (114.6 bb)
                  MP: $37.35 (74.7 bb)
                  Hero (CO): $50 (100 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
                  UTG folds, MP raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, MP calls $3.25

                  Flop: ($10.75) Q 4 8 (2 players)
                  MP checks, Hero bets $5, MP calls $5

                  Turn: ($20.75) 2 (2 players)
                  MP checks, Hero bets $11.25, MP calls $11.25

                  River: ($43.25) 9 (2 players)
                  MP bets $16.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $16.10

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $75.45 pot ($2 rake)
                  Final Board: Q 4 8 2 9
                  MP showed 4 9 and won $73.45 ($36.10 net)
                  Hero showed K K and lost (-$37.35 net)



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                  Anyone sick enough to just fold to the min-raise on the flop here? He literally always has trips or AA. I genuinely think this is a good fold. Or does everyone just sigh GII?

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                    BTN: $41.75 (83.5 bb)
                    SB: $96.76 (193.5 bb)
                    Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
                    UTG: $111.51 (223 bb)
                    MP: $90.89 (181.8 bb)
                    CO: $71.45 (142.9 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
                    UTG raises to $1.50, MP folds, CO calls $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.50, UTG calls $5, CO calls $5

                    Flop: ($19.75) 3 2 3 (3 players)
                    Hero bets $7.50, UTG raises to $15, CO folds, Hero calls $7.50

                    Turn: ($49.75) 9 (2 players)
                    Hero checks, UTG bets $90.01 and is all-in, Hero calls $28.50 and is all-in

                    River: ($106.75) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $106.75 pot ($2 rake)
                    Final Board: 3 2 3 9 5
                    Hero showed K K and lost (-$50 net)
                    UTG showed A A and won $104.75 ($54.75 net)



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                    Is this too tight? v's range for calling has 6 combos of better and MAYBE they even fold top two? Maybe we can discount some AA because of sizing. I still had 75bb behind n didn't really wanna iso myself v TT/AA.

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                      BTN: $55.01 (110 bb)
                      Hero (SB): $78.90 (157.8 bb)
                      BB: $50.02 (100 bb)
                      UTG: $50 (100 bb)
                      MP: $89.92 (179.8 bb)
                      CO: $149.53 (299.1 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 6
                      2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, BB folds

                      Flop: ($5) T A 6 (3 players)
                      Hero checks, CO bets $3.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $3.50

                      Turn: ($12) 4 (2 players)
                      Hero checks, CO bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50

                      River: ($35) 4 (2 players)
                      Hero checks, CO bets $24.50, Hero calls $24.50

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $84 pot ($2 rake)
                      Final Board: T A 6 4 4
                      Hero showed 6 6 and won $82 ($41 net)
                      CO showed A Q and lost (-$41 net)



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                      And finally a hand worth discussing. I'd love your thoughts on what we should be doing ITH. 34/24/13 over 150.

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                        BTN: $43.76 (87.5 bb)
                        Hero (SB): $50.25 (100.5 bb)
                        BB: $111.65 (223.3 bb)
                        UTG: $34.99 (70 bb)
                        MP: $87.92 (175.8 bb)
                        CO: $50 (100 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
                        UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, BB folds, MP calls $3.50

                        Flop: ($10.50) 2 4 2 (2 players)
                        Hero bets $5.50, MP calls $5.50

                        Turn: ($21.50) 3 (2 players)
                        Hero checks, MP bets $7, Hero calls $7

                        River: ($35.50) K (2 players)
                        Hero checks, MP bets $33.50, Hero folds

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $35.50 pot ($1.78 rake)
                        Final Board: 2 4 2 3 K
                        Hero mucked J J and lost (-$17.50 net)
                        MP mucked and won $33.72 ($16.22 net)



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                        08-30-2016 , 03:24 AM
                        Today might be in the books.



                        Got to chase down Plat this month. 3-4 steps left, shud be a sweat.
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                        08-30-2016 , 03:48 AM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by meale
                        Ya obv, wrt pot odds etc.


                        Why lol? This can't be good.



                        Jamming value I beat also makes no sense there. Neither does spazzing off your entire stack when I have every value combo in my range.

                        How can leading multi way with the nuts and getting as much money in the middle never be not good? Seem to be a lot of ******s even at 50nl, judging by that hand so I would just go for max value.

                        You check called flop, checked turn and then led out river for half pot, it does not exactly scream a monster hand, your range looks weak as played, I can't imagine anyone jamming the nuts there, and don't recall seeing it actually.

                        JJ hand not sure why you checked turn, pretty sure turn is a big bet against a whale or check jam

                        Last edited by mirage01; 08-30-2016 at 04:13 AM.
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                        08-30-2016 , 04:02 AM
                        Can you elaborate your thought process on JJ hand ? Thanks.
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                        08-30-2016 , 04:16 AM
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                        Can you elaborate your thought process on JJ hand ? Thanks.
                        Pre n flop standard. Turn I could bet or x. Have no idea which is better for what reasons.

                        OTR v can have AKcc, AKdd, might play QQ like this too but think we can discount it because of turn sizing. Might occasionally have some AA. Not 100% sure all KXcc bets this size otr. Should have a decent chunk of hands like QTcc, ATcc etc that can bluff here.

                        I think I prefer bet flop and turn and xf river in hindsight.
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                        08-30-2016 , 04:33 AM
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                        Originally Posted by meale
                        I think I prefer bet flop and turn and xf river in hindsight.
                        I think the turn it`s a clear value bet, especially on this turn card when V will expect you to bet all you AK combos, so he will call all his pocket pairs and also AK that floats the flop.
                        This turn card is really nice because I think you can also shove blank rivers for value against TT-88 that might not fold thinking you`re always jamming AK in this spot.
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                        08-30-2016 , 04:46 AM
                        I'm not jamming more than 1 combo of AK here esp if you think he calls 88. I was worried about him still having QQ in his range. I think B,B,xf/xc riv depending on what it is is probably better line
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                        08-30-2016 , 04:53 AM
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                        Originally Posted by meale
                        Pre n flop standard. Turn I could bet or x. Have no idea which is better for what reasons.

                        OTR v can have AKcc, AKdd, might play QQ like this too but think we can discount it because of turn sizing. Might occasionally have some AA. Not 100% sure all KXcc bets this size otr. Should have a decent chunk of hands like QTcc, ATcc etc that can bluff here.

                        I think I prefer bet flop and turn and xf river in hindsight.
                        You are giving a 34/24 player a premium 3bet calling range, which is flawed for obvious reasons. If you 3bet this type of player, you have to just go max value on that board, and if your beat your beat. I would 3/4 turn, and check call river where he would bluff often. Checking turn just gives him a free card and lets him own you on bad rivers which he did. If you don't want to play for stacks with jacks on that board then not sure whats the point of the 3bet.
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                        08-30-2016 , 06:15 AM
                        KK vs 94dd dude I go either smaller or bigger otf depending on if I want to go for 2 or 3 streets.

                        KK on 332cc, I'm fistpump jamming vs a minr from what I assume is a recreational, seen so often people do that w 99-QQ. Don't understand how he's supposed to have trips from EP on this board tho, and mostly doesn't have AA either.

                        JJ I think betting turn is mandatory, and then decide river play based on runout.
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                        08-30-2016 , 06:36 AM
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                        KK vs 94dd dude I go either smaller or bigger otf depending on if I want to go for 2 or 3 streets.
                        Agreed, sizing in that hand is ****ing shocking.

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                        KK on 332cc, I'm fistpump jamming vs a minr from what I assume is a recreational, seen so often people do that w 99-QQ. Don't understand how he's supposed to have trips from EP on this board tho, and mostly doesn't have AA either.
                        A3s I guess. This was a reg not a rec which is why it's sick. Fist pumping vs rec as you say. Reg I guess don't have much xperience slow playing AA n figured this was best way to stack my underpairs.

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                        JJ I think betting turn is mandatory, and then decide river play based on runout.
                        Yah agreed.

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                        So I watched a bit of ishter play 50z on RIO and holy **** the guy runs good. :') The rungood transposed into my session which was nice.



                        So many fish in this game, I'm feeling pretty confident with my game.
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