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12-23-2022 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by thr33bet
I think it's partly a function of playing 27% VPIP, you naturally arrive on the flop with a weaker range so have to x/f more often. The way to remedy it might be to 1) play tighter pre and 2) be stickier OTF when facing a bet. Like random said, don't know how much you x/c or x/r flop but based on your high fold to cbet stat 54%, you might just be overfolding flops regardless of whether you're the aggressor or defender.

Btw, how much of this was played with 6 players dealt in? Claret you say it was mostly zoom but from what I understand stars zoom hands can run with like 4 people in a hand? Could be affecting my perception of the VPIP.
Hey..

I cant ever remember playing zoom with less than 6 players tbh
12-23-2022 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RandomLurker
Skip cb and c/f way too high. Should be somewhere in 40% range. Don't use h2n myself but I assume that 40 -> fold 67 means you don't cb 40% of the time and fold 67% of the time.



Won when saw flop is low and that might be related to that weakish oop play as pf raiser. Pay attention to that what kind of boards to c/c or c/r. You should raise 10-15% as prf. Can't see from that how much you do.
Is that check raise 15% as PFR?
12-23-2022 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
Is that check raise 15% as PFR?
Yeah.
12-24-2022 , 07:49 AM
Merry Christmas to everyone that follows this thread. I hope you and your families have a great time
12-24-2022 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RandomLurker

Won when saw flop is low and that might be related to that weakish oop play as pf raiser.
Probably a function of limped pots from the BB and multiway pots. Last time I looked, mine was around 44% WWSF overall, but 49% when I VPIP, and 35% in limped pots where I checked in the BB.
12-25-2022 , 07:07 AM
Merry Christmas! Hope you (and especially your dad) have a great day.
12-25-2022 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AskZandar
Probably a function of limped pots from the BB and multiway pots. Last time I looked, mine was around 44% WWSF overall, but 49% when I VPIP, and 35% in limped pots where I checked in the BB.
I've actually increased that stat too - always had issues with it. Was around 40% and WTSD was 22/23%.. I wasn't stabbing at pots and folding too many rivers (high W$SD too) and i'm not partically aggro vs cbets either.

What % should WWSF be?
12-25-2022 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ILoveMyBrick
Merry Christmas! Hope you (and especially your dad) have a great day.
Thanks a lot man. I hope you and your loved ones have a great day!
12-25-2022 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
I've actually increased that stat too - always had issues with it. Was around 40% and WTSD was 22/23%.. I wasn't stabbing at pots and folding too many rivers (high W$SD too) and i'm not partically aggro vs cbets either.

What % should WWSF be?
I think WWSF is supposed to be 46-52% or something depending on your playstyle, but multiway limped pots, and SB limping into your BB when you have junk hands, is going to drag the number and make it misleading. In those situations the stat is gong to be absurdly low because of the volume of people in the hand and my weak cards, so I'd just filter to VPIP hands to get rid of all of the noise caused by hands like 72o in a 5 way pot where I'm never winning.
12-25-2022 , 09:01 PM
I would be attacking MW limped pots at some frequency. Mostly on really dry boards when the flop checks through, and the turn is a relative blank.

Same with SB limping into your BB. Whenever that happens, I'm betting pretty much any flop that doesn't contain an A.
12-26-2022 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
I would be attacking MW limped pots at some frequency. Mostly on really dry boards when the flop checks through, and the turn is a relative blank.

Same with SB limping into your BB. Whenever that happens, I'm betting pretty much any flop that doesn't contain an A.

Stabbing at those MW limped pots was something i wasn't doing enough but i'm making an effort to now (partly because of playing too many tables / not putting a lot ofthought in to what i'm doing). I was just giving up a lot in general and not stabbing when it was super obvious no one was interested - i also take the bet / check / bet line now more whereas before i'd be "one and done" and check it down and not fire river as a bluff because of the expectation of getting a call too often..


I have been lucky that you guys have taken the time to help me with my game and i'm making a real effort to implement the advice. I intend to work my ass off from Jan 1st with putting in volume on the tables and lots of study time off the tables.
12-26-2022 , 10:21 AM
Squeezing seems to work surprisingly well so i'm looking at identifying spots i can take away dead money. I have asked this in the regs thread but what size do you guys choose?



To keep things simple - both players have standard looking stats and fold to 3bets 70%+ .. villain 1 opens in HJ for 3x, and gets a call OTB.. hero is in the blinds with KQ and 3bets to 14bb - is this sizing sufficient? IP i generally go to like 11bb or there abouts and obviously increase if this line is vs fish..
12-28-2022 , 01:22 PM
So i have been taking it easy and just playing micro MTTs.. Min cashing for the most part.. Played some 2nl zoom and low and behold i run hotter than the sun lol..

New thread will be live later so please follow as 2023 gonna be a big year
12-28-2022 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
So i have been taking it easy and just playing micro MTTs.. Min cashing for the most part.. Played some 2nl zoom and low and behold i run hotter than the sun lol..

New thread will be live later so please follow as 2023 gonna be a big year
Would love to see some MTT hands if you found any interesting, I am a huge MTT donk but play them from time to time.
12-28-2022 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by thr33bet
Would love to see some MTT hands if you found any interesting, I am a huge MTT donk but play them from time to time.

Not sure if you will find them interesting, but yeah i'll dig through and post on here..



I want to improve my MTT game actually.. i know the basics but with some fine tuning i may do fairly well.. They are a welcomed break from the cash grind and semi entertaining - and wow are the players lolbad
12-28-2022 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
Squeezing seems to work surprisingly well so i'm looking at identifying spots i can take away dead money. I have asked this in the regs thread but what size do you guys choose?



To keep things simple - both players have standard looking stats and fold to 3bets 70%+ .. villain 1 opens in HJ for 3x, and gets a call OTB.. hero is in the blinds with KQ and 3bets to 14bb - is this sizing sufficient? IP i generally go to like 11bb or there abouts and obviously increase if this line is vs fish..
Depends on what kind of range you are using, I'd 3b ~5x from BB if I am including some shitty hands like K9o, QTo, J5s, etc. and add a multiple for every caller so in this example I go 18bb. Important to flat hands like KQo/AJo/QJs though and not throw them in this strategy.
12-29-2022 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
Not sure if you will find them interesting, but yeah i'll dig through and post on here..



I want to improve my MTT game actually.. i know the basics but with some fine tuning i may do fairly well.. They are a welcomed break from the cash grind and semi entertaining - and wow are the players lolbad

Yeah, since my return to poker, I've dabbled in both cash and mtts. Although I am a winner in cash games, I've come to the conclusion that I prefer mtts. If I'm perfectly honest, I finds cash games more stressful as you can lose quite a bit of money quickly if things go wrong. Whereas in mtts, I pay the buy-in and that's the max risk. Also, like you say, now that I've improved my cash game, I really notice how bad mtt players are in comparison lol.

I'll be following your new thread. I might start my own for mtts in 2023 too.
12-29-2022 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MrCrown
Yeah, since my return to poker, I've dabbled in both cash and mtts. Although I am a winner in cash games, I've come to the conclusion that I prefer mtts. If I'm perfectly honest, I finds cash games more stressful as you can lose quite a bit of money quickly if things go wrong. Whereas in mtts, I pay the buy-in and that's the max risk. Also, like you say, now that I've improved my cash game, I really notice how bad mtt players are in comparison lol.

I'll be following your new thread. I might start my own for mtts in 2023 too.

Thanks bro. Start a thread for the motivation - i'll be sure to follow your progress.


I enjoy MTT's for the most part but i prefer the convenience of cash that allows me to just leave whenever i want, and i also prefer playing deeper.



Do you think you're going to just grind MTT's exclusively or mix?
12-29-2022 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
Thanks bro. Start a thread for the motivation - i'll be sure to follow your progress.


I enjoy MTT's for the most part but i prefer the convenience of cash that allows me to just leave whenever i want, and i also prefer playing deeper.



Do you think you're going to just grind MTT's exclusively or mix?
I'm going to focus 100% on mtts.
12-29-2022 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MrCrown
I'm going to focus 100% on mtts.

GL with that brother!

I'm only playing 1k cash hands per day til Jan and have played a few NTT's - only <$5 buyings but i like the 10min blind level / non turbo ones that have bounties.. I remember when i first started playing back in 2009 and the fields in these micro tournaments were 1000's deep compated to now they've changed a lot.

Some of my goals for next year are to improve my MTT game so i'd be keen to chat poker with you sometime? and do some sweats in you're interested?
12-29-2022 , 12:54 PM
New Claret N Blue thread here:

CNB 2023 Thread

      
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