Hello! I play only 2 tables at the same time (zoom - pokerstars), but yeah, it's possible to play both nl25z and nl50z for sure because I just have to play one table on each limit. But for some reasons I'm still thinking if I want to do that.

Hello! I don't think about my BR while I'm playing at all. I don't look to my results too often and I really think I can play my decisions without worrying about the shot I'm giving. But even so I need to be careful because the variance is high and my winrate is apparently low. Poker is hard.

Poker is hard

I was thinking about giving a new shot on nl50z because my BRM was allowing it. But as I'm on vacation, I decided to play more volume on nl25z in order to win the rakeback challenge from this month and then try a new shot on nl50z with a bigger bankroll.

Then, out of nowhere, I started losing everyday on nl25z. These are my results from this month so far:



Well, it's completely normal to lose 20 BIs on a limit that we're already a winner player. Therefore I don't want to be a fish that cries about something normal. But it's impossible to say it hasn't affected my confidence because I don't have a huge sample on nl25z to know if I'm a really winner there in the first place. In other words: if I had 1.5 million hands showing that I'm a winner player on these limits, I'd be less affected on these moments because I'd know it's just variane. But as I'm climbing the stakes and don't have huge sample yet, these moments are hard because I'm not really sure what is going on.

There's no much to do now. My bankroll allows me to stay on nl25z for now. So, I'll play more hands and hope that I'm just running bad.

Solver is useless at micro's mate. Learn to max explo fish and the pool in general. Solver is making you play bad, with a false sense of security. Poker is not hard unless you make it so.

Hey man, sucks to read that your confidence is dropping and that you are in a downswing (if we want to call it a downswing).

I want to give you some (unasked) advice in regards to theory and poker in practise. Maybe it's an option for you to begin deviating from theory in some spots or against some villains. You already mentioned to me you like to play GTO, so if that makes poker fun for you of course go for it. But maybe it's a thing to start labelling people as fish (and leave the other tags out of the picture to keep being focussed on your theoretical approach), and just deviate from theory against those kind of villains. Also OTR you can deviate a bunch for a higher win-rate imo (correct me if I'm wrong) to exploit pool tendencies. I have played a bunch in the 25 pool (moved up recently like 1.5 months ago) and I know for a fact some spots are highly under bluffed in comparison to theory by some regs. Or maybe you can go in-between to play theory against regs, and deviate in certain spots against fish. This way you are still improving you're theory game (along with studying) but I also think you gain some ev in some spots.

Whatever you do GL sir

Same where I play. Fast fold as well.

I suggest adapting gto to either a more balanced approach or exploitative (based on if flop is good for caller or raiser), and if pool tends to cbet flop more than they should.

The list I provided above leads you to balanced vs exploitative, because you are looking for the highest ev And if fish keeps calling down, then more x/c on river, and less value on TPTK hands.

It looks like a $375 downswing I guess. You were up over a grand at that level right? You are still doing well try not to let it affect you! But, I like how you articulate your feelings regarding the downswing and are wearing your heart on your sleeve. That is what will get you through hard times in not only poker, but life.

Hey, mate. I get where you're going and I agree with some things, but for some reasons I respectfully don't agree with everything. But thank you for sharing your thoughts with me! You're welcome to do this again. I really appreciate that.

Hey, man! Don't worry about it! These're not unasked advices because I like to hear what good players (as you're) have to say. Please, always share your thoughts.

About your advice: I actually liked the idea of having only one tag to mark weaker players in general based on showdowns and/or fish behaviors, as limping, short stacks, etc. Also, I agree that deviating in some spots against everyone in general can increase our winrate on these pools. Some common examples are spots where their bluffing range are not built naturally, therefore they tend to underbluff. If we think/study more about it, we're going to see a lot of things, as their weak checking range, their overbluffing lines on double flushdraws turns, etc. For some reasons I don't want to go too far on that path, but I'll think about integrating some of these things in my game.

Thank you! I appreciate it.

Thank you, man. Deviating in some spots can increase our winrate for sure. For some reasons I don't want to go too far on this, but I'll think about it. Thank you again!

Hey, mate. Yeah, I was over a grand at that level. I'm trying my best to not let these things affect me because I already know these kind of swings are completely standard, but as I don't have a huge sample on these limits (as 1.5 million hands or whatever), it's hard to not feel insecure because I don't have mathematical proof that I'm a winner player yet. I'll post my results from August today and then I'll talk a little bit more about it.

Thank you for your words!

August results: -20 BI on nl25z. It could have been worse... It could have been better...

These are my results from August (in $):



These are my overall results on nl25z (in bb):



These are my overall results on all limits so far:



Before we talk about these informations, there are some aspects I should say: (i) the strategy/level I played on nl25z last month was exacly the same I was playing before. Actually, it was a little bit better because my mistakes/blunders rate was a little bit lower. So, I can guarantee that these bad results were not generated by changes in my strategy or my mistakes rate; (ii) I didn't tilt. Of course I was sad to not be winning, but I can guarantee that I didn't let this affect my game at all. From my part, everything was basiclly the same.

But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm a winner player that is just running bad now. Sure, for one hand you could argue that I'm acting like a fish because 20 BI swings are completely normal. Also, you could argue that I shouldn't act like a fish because bigger swings will happen. For another hand you could argue that I'm actually not a winner player and only know the statistics are converging to the "real" and "fair" results I deserve.

Well, I don't have a clue which one is correct.

My bankroll is on the $750 mark now. I could still play nl25z if I follow my aggressive BRM, but I decided to move down for some days. I don't know how to work from here now, but I'll post things here as I figure them out.

Peace!

gl!

Brutal month.

What are your stats by position like?

Hey, man. I can check them. Which stats specifically are you talking about?

Attempting to play equilibrium strats in an ultra high rake environment with players who are generally playing very far from equilibrium themselves = low winrate = swongs.

I think we need a redline graph to investigate further! For real tho, to see if your even playing close to gto

GL moving forward bruh

This. And playing GTO (theory) verbatim with solver, is recipe for disaster.

your winrates at 25zoom aren't super strong I think you'd benefit some finding some exploits vs pop.

He already said that he doesn't want to make money. He doesn't want to exploit. He just wants to play as close to GTO as he can.

Yes, but to build a bankroll from 25z to 100z, you need to make money.

no it isn't.
don't need to win to make money.

WUT? Troll much?

Graph of winning player that climbed from 25nl to 100nl:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...9&postcount=37

His study methods:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...5&postcount=43

huh?

New to poker?

This message is hidden because BornToRun is on your ignore list.

Good Luck with your endeavors.

lol replies with some irrelevant links and then puts me on ignore. ok.

Hello, guys. I agree. You're right. A well-executed exploitative strategy will bring better results for sure.

Hey, man. Sure, I can post some redline graphs - even though I don't think this is too important to investigate things. My redline is negative, but not so much.