well i kinda have mixed feelings about this whole nl25 thing. despite the fact that i am profiting something seems to be very off... stats wise i am still playing the same game that was more than enough to crush nl5 and nl10 for a very solid winrate. however here i am merely breakeven over something that cant be discarded as a small sample. also what i have noticed is that the number of fish is significantly lower and thus my lag play is met by aggressive responses more frequently and this results in this beautiful redline:



i will sit down tomorrow and go through the nonshowdown hands and try to figure weather its just variance of if there actually is a need for some adjustments in my opening ranges. shouldnt be that much of a problem to figure out but i might have to move down to experiment around a little bit.

as for today. i managed to run up a decent profit of $89. the reason i am so disappointed is that $50 came from a stellar and $33 came from 3 sattys that i shipped (out of three lol) so overall i broke even and that sucks balls.

hours: 5.3
hands: 5962
br: $1862

gla

You're not going to belive this... But my graph for this month looks identicle to that. Although i have only played 6k hands so far (which is actually a bit for me at this pioint) My graph is almost a straight line, except im actually stuck a few BI, and my redline just started plummeting. Im running 4bi below EV but it just feels like everyone is owning me this month. All my river value bets are getting raised
Cliffs: Variance

PS. I remember your screen name from when i played 10NL just then haha, I think you owned me a bunch of times

thanks for the input man. really hope its variance but some will be regs being harder to run over which was obv a big part of my winnings at nl10 so i guess we ll see

haha hope i didnt put some 1 outers on you like:


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $25.00
MP+1: $20.00
LP: $28.10
CO: $13.70
BTN: $28.66
SB: $25.59
Hero (BB): $32.46
UTG: $10.00
UTG+1: $16.10

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 4 4

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.75, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35, 3 players) 3 4 T
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.10, fold, CO raises to $6.70, Hero raises to $17.25, CO calls $6.25 and is all-in

Turn: ($28.25, 2 players) 3

River: ($28.25, 2 players) T

Hero shows 4 4 (Full House, Fours full of Tens) (Pre 81%, Flop 96%, Turn 2%)
CO shows 3 3 (Four of a Kind, Threes) (Pre 19%, Flop 4%, Turn 98%)
CO wins $26.98

At least you wernt 100BB deep, Yeah imo there is a fair bit more 3betting at 25NL and less limping. Sometimes you have to fight a bit even for the 15bb pots. But one thing i have noticed lately is fish just betting on the end with air after the flop and tun go x/x. I have snapped off some many little pots lately from fish just 2/3 potting river bricks and showing lik A7 on a K9338 board or something. How many tables you playing at 25nl?

People seem to call you down way lighter@ 25nl than they would at 10nl, especially in 3bet pots (which are far more frequent now, with most people having 5% or so) so i think bluff less and valuebet thinner ^_^..

Example hand vs a winning reg yesterday...


Btw.. what stats are u playing, odd i haven't seen you at tables yet!

GL.. mayb your putting in too much $$ in pot with weak/marginal holdings are folding to often causing the massive plumment in your redline? Im finding it more diffucult to 24 table 25nl than i was with 10nl because i am being put in more spots that i have to think about leading to timing out/poor play etc etc

I don't understand what you were doing on any street in that hand :S.

Also, I could be wrong, but I'm going off the graph on this page where you have ~ 20k hands. This is a sample size that can be easily shrugged off as variance.

Im down $200 in nl25 after 5 days,

haha not sure what point you re trying to make with that hand looks more like you spewed off a buin there

i ve been running 24/20 since i started grinding nl5 fullring but i think thatll change from now on...

yea thats the graph i meant thing is i really am used to losing less when it comes to nonshowdown stuff. and that in itself is unlikely to be all variance but me having to give up on more pots cuz villais dont give up as much as they do at the lower limits. adjustments will be made but thx for the input.

hope thatll turn around sir. good luck!


just played a little 1.5 hr session and after heatering initially i went icecold and redistributed most of the winnings but ended up $11 or so after 1700 hands or so

have made some adjustments and starting to feel and play well at this limit.



lost a massive $85 pot with underset vs a fish but still confident

still working on those adjustments. had a bad start to the second session but i ll eventually get there i m sure.



hands: 6543
hours: 5.6
profit: $40
br: $1895

I'm sure you will be comfortable soon. I took off for about a week, but I am going to play a few hands tonight. Gonna increase volume soon, I hope.
OK! here is one hand I played just before my last session ended. This is against a guy who was 80/5 over a small sample. On the flop, though, his numbers show him more likely to check/fold more than anything else. Also, there was a 30/22 player who acted after me. He folded, and he showed j9 for 2p. Should I fold this? Will fill in the blanks after some opinion.


Merge - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $5.20
Hero (MP): $14.71
CO: $13.95
BTN: $15.42
SB: $8.80
BB: $3.50

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, fold

Flop: ($1.30, 4 players) J 9 T
SB bets $8.50 and is all-in

you serious sir? i m never ever folding this. you will have to dodge some cards most of the time but there are so many things he can have that u crush esp two worse sets and pair+draw combos that theres no way i m folding vs a 80/5 drooler even with a gun to my head

+1 DO NOT FOLD.

LOL! Yes, I'm serious. Want to see if anyone has an opinion before I give the outcome. Doesn't he show up with (k7)h, or something as good, often here, though?

I wonder how deep you'd have to be before I could find a fold on that board. Not folding as like everyone else and lol when he has the straight flush.

well i just stoved it. IF he only shoves flushes this is a fold. HOWEVER, if he shoves flushes he WILL shove his sets, and if so he WILL shove his two pairs and his pairs plus ah and straights and random crap as well. you have more than 50% vs that entire range so i think this is a call


Board: Jh Th 9h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.738% 49.92% 01.82% 189282 6894.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 48.262% 46.44% 01.82% 176100 6894.00 { QQ+, TT-99, AhKh, AhQh, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KQs, Kh8h, Kh7h, Kh6h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, Kh2h, QJs, Qh8h, Qh7h, Qh6h, Qh5h, Qh4h, Qh3h, Qh2h, J9s+, T9s, 87s, 8h6h, 8h5h, 8h4h, 8h3h, 8h2h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 7h4h, 7h3h, 7h2h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 6h3h, 6h2h, 5h4h, 5h3h, 5h2h, 4h3h, 4h2h, 3h2h, AhQc, AhQd, AhQs, AhJd, AhTc, AhTd, AhTs, Ah9c, Ah9d, Ah9s, KQo, KhJs, QJo, J9o+, T9o, 87o }

edit: i fistpumpsnapcall lol

Sir, please dont fold in this spot against this opponent ever.

LOL! Glad to have the responses. Ty, all! Well... I folded. Quick thought process. It felt like he flopped a flush to me. Also, I thought I was getting his money sooner, or later, or someone else was, at least; and I didn't see a reason to start that process in the hole. It was not easy to let it go, though. I will now have your comments to draw on in the future. Good stuff!

LOL! I was hoping my action wasn't obvious. blakk shows me it wasn't in his spoiler.

did he show a set of tens?

here s an interesting hand from todays session.

villain was a taggy reg who was (understandably) getting sick of me.



PokerStars - $0.25 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $57.83
UTG: $21.31
UTG+1: $21.57
MP: $29.26
MP+1: $10.00
CO: $32.18
Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $23.04

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K A

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, fold, CO calls $1.50

so far all prety standard

Flop: ($4.85, 2 players) 7 A T
CO bets $3.47, Hero calls $3.47

villain here is not very likely to be bluffing all that much however with a lot of his monster hands (2p+) he wouldnt just come out betting into me when i am likely to cbet anyways. so he likely wants to have control of the betting with his ace combos and some of the time he will have a big draw. if i raise get it in here though i m not likely to be in that great a shape vs his combodraws and some hands that beat be so i decide to flat and reevalueate on the turn. also, if it bricks i can still get stacks in by the river

Turn: ($11.79, 2 players) T
CO bets $8.44,

this is actually a very good card for me as it greatly reduces the likelyhood of him having AT and TT thus making his range a whole lot weaker (AJ,AQ 89cc and such) against which i am a huge favourite now. since he s commited anyways i go ahead and shove and if he happens to have 77 then meh so be it

Hero raises to $19.28 and is all-in, CO calls $10.84
River: ($50.35, 2 players) 7

CO shows Q A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens) (Pre 26%, Flop 13%, Turn 10%)
Hero shows K A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens) (Pre 74%, Flop 87%, Turn 90%)
Hero wins $48.35

LOL! Would be cool if we could eventually see these things.

AK: WP

I think the range you gave him may be a bit too wide but I still couldn't fold.

i present to you: blakkman08's first solid session at nl25