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09-15-2021 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 2021shipit
is this a joke lmao. even full ring you are a terrible nit

edit: idc if ur winning at 200nl full ring on ignition congrats bro. you are still a joke. playing 14 vpip. actually learn to play
What are your stats? Why should I fix what isn't broken???
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09-15-2021 , 02:31 AM
Hello there!

Paisting, you dog water player, you’re still trying to grind low stakes and embarrassing yourself? Why do you call most of the low stakes players as “bad players” when you’re shoving all-in pre-flop any 2 cards?
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09-15-2021 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
You mean printing like today in 1,5h session?

Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players

Paisting (UTG): $3.51 (176 bb)
MoonChildx (CO): $2.54 (127 bb)
BLUEANT (BU): $2.72 (136 bb)
NLF1sh (SB): $7.75 (388 bb)
Ganador_15 (BB): $2.07 (104 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with A A
Paisting (UTG) raises to $3.51 (all-in), 3 players fold, Ganador_15 (BB) calls $2.05 (all-in)

Flop: ($4.15) J 2 K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($4.15) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.15) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.15 (Rake: $0.20)

Showdown:
Paisting (UTG) shows A A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 87%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 18%, River: 0%)

Ganador_15 (BB) shows J K (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 13%, Flop: 73%, Turn: 82%, River: 100%)

Ganador_15 (BB) wins $3.95

Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

NLF1sh (UTG): $2.48 (124 bb)
Sacrogrito (MP): $2.00 (100 bb)
Paisting (CO): $5.56 (278 bb)
Ganador_15 (BU): $2.11 (106 bb)
dahui36 (SB): $1.76 (88 bb)
vppokerr23 (BB): $2.41 (121 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is CO with J K
2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.08, Ganador_15 (BU) 3-bets to $0.40, 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) calls $0.32

Flop: ($0.83) 3 J 2 (2 players)
Paisting (CO) checks, Ganador_15 (BU) bets $0.43, Paisting (CO) raises to $5.16 (all-in), Ganador_15 (BU) calls $1.28 (all-in)

Turn: ($4.25) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.25) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.25 (Rake: $0.21)

Showdown:
Paisting (CO) shows J K (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 42%, Flop: 73%, Turn: 11%, River: 0%)

Ganador_15 (BU) shows Q A (two pair, Aces and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 58%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 89%, River: 100%)

Ganador_15 (BU) wins $4.04

Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Ganador_15 (UTG): $6.33 (317 bb)
Paisting (MP): $2.22 (111 bb)
Olar42 (CO): $2.36 (118 bb)
Sacrogrito (BU): $2.62 (131 bb)
BLUEANT (SB): $3.69 (185 bb)
killjoyturtle (BB): $2.03 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is MP with Q Q
1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $2.22 (all-in), 3 players fold, killjoyturtle (BB) calls $2.01 (all-in)

Flop: ($4.07) A 7 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($4.07) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.07) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.07 (Rake: $0.20)

Showdown:
Paisting (MP) shows Q Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

killjoyturtle (BB) shows A 9 (two pair, Aces and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

killjoyturtle (BB) wins $3.87

Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players

Ganador_15 (UTG): $4.39 (220 bb)
vppokerr23 (CO): $2.74 (137 bb)
NLF1sh (BU): $3.02 (151 bb)
Sacrogrito (SB): $2.53 (127 bb)
Paisting (BB): $1.21 (61 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is BB with K K
3 players fold, Sacrogrito (SB) raises to $2.53 (all-in), Paisting (BB) calls $1.19 (all-in)

Flop: ($2.42) A J A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($2.42) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($2.42) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $2.42 (Rake: $0.12)

Showdown:
Sacrogrito (SB) shows Q A (a full house, Aces full of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 93%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Paisting (BB) shows K K (two pair, Aces and Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 7%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

Sacrogrito (SB) wins $2.30

And before that I had played against every of those players 1h20m where they raise every button and cutoff, don't fold to raise, then call all flops. And those tables where they were blinds or position on me 100% call pre, 100% flop and most turn.

This is pattern that I confront there almost every day. Same pattern. Those whales who suckout most are those with steal 80%, fold to flop 22%, fold to 3b 20% and autobet 100% when checked to.
...wow, we lose with KJ vs AQ
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09-15-2021 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kendoo
...wow, we lose with KJ vs AQ
Most likely those players have stats against Paisting and will go all-in with any 2 cards against him. I remember sitting against Paisting at multiple tables at once and earning money easily from this clown. Even saw few guys sitting with +1000bb while playing against Paisting. This guy is something...
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09-15-2021 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kendoo
...wow, we lose with KJ vs AQ
On flop with 73% massive light years ahead equity against whale who has red flagged "I don't have anything on that board, I definitely not have anything on that board" when overbig 3betting = overcards that are hard to play unhitted and then small pot on flop even thought flush draw and straight draw on board. That hand and previous hands you know 110% sure that whale does not have anything on that board. These hands are annoying but also really sad that sites favouring those super bad players. Just horrible.
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09-15-2021 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
On flop with 73% massive light years ahead equity against whale who has red flagged "I don't have anything on that board, I definitely not have anything on that board" when overbig 3betting = overcards that are hard to play unhitted and then small pot on flop even thought flush draw and straight draw on board. That hand and previous hands you know 110% sure that whale does not have anything on that board. These hands are annoying but also really sad that sites favouring those super bad players. Just horrible.
Why not play on a site with all in cashout then? Sounds like you'd be printing if it weren't for suck outs
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09-15-2021 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CallForRedline
Why not play on a site with all in cashout then? Sounds like you'd be printing if it weren't for suck outs
That option is coming to acr this October if I remember correct. Then we'll see how that affects. But one thing is sure i'll use that everytime.
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09-15-2021 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
That option is coming to acr this October if I remember correct. Then we'll see how that affects. But one thing is sure i'll use that everytime.
Good, sounds like October will be a big winning month then. What kind of winrate do you estimate yourself achieving?
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09-15-2021 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CallForRedline
Good, sounds like October will be a big winning month then. What kind of winrate do you estimate yourself achieving?
Don't know. With my luck maybe aces starts to hold when paying cash outs but we'll see.
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09-15-2021 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
Don't know. With my luck maybe aces starts to hold when paying cash outs but we'll see.
You're saying that as if that's a bad thing. Woe is me...

A more relevant question would be: when you still suffer a massive loss in the month of October, what will you blame it on then? Cheating right? Or the RNG being programmed against you in an inside job?
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09-15-2021 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
That option is coming to acr this October if I remember correct. Then we'll see how that affects. But one thing is sure i'll use that everytime.
great paisting - so you will only lose 200bb/100 instead of 550bb/100

Still everybody playing with you will be a big winner....
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09-15-2021 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kendoo
great paisting - so you will only lose 200bb/100 instead of 550bb/100

Still everybody playing with you will be a big winner....

He will definitely benefit from all-in cashout if he continues with the same style. As explained earlier on the thread, he runs significantly below his EV because of the poor cards he plays.

I'm fascinated by his insistence that he loses only because he is unlucky and only because the other players are so bad...or so good...he kind of flip-flops on that point.

They are terrible whales and I'm really unlucky!!
They play perfect GTO shove strategy and the games aren't beatable at these stakes!!
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09-15-2021 , 12:07 PM
I seem to remember that there was some debate as to if stars took into account folded cards.

If it's the case that 888 will account for folded cards he won't be any better off and will still appear to have run bad.

He's such a degenerate he can't even take out insurance to improve his run bad.
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09-15-2021 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by teddybloat
I seem to remember that there was some debate as to if stars took into account folded cards.

If it's the case that 888 will account for folded cards he won't be any better off and will still appear to have run bad.

He's such a degenerate he can't even take out insurance to improve his run bad.
never heard this and don't think there's even a point to it so i'm going to blame your bad memory. this is not a thing.
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09-15-2021 , 04:42 PM
For all-in equity insurance stuff that would be wild if that included the folded cards. Get my KK all-in against AA and then find "Whoops...I only have about 2% equity instead of 18%'ish because both of the other Kings were already folded. Here is your 3.5BB out of 200 in the pot. LOL."

Seems unlikely they would do it that way. Probably just a discussion of players wondering how it worked.

Regardless, paisting does stand to benefit nased on what his equity shows in PT because that is actually better than reality.
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09-15-2021 , 10:12 PM
All in cash out is going to be a god send. Once we remove all in variance Paistings green line will be where his yellow line is and everything will be apples.

Good luck in October Paisting. Cheers to only losing 500BIs instead of 600.


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09-15-2021 , 10:19 PM
I also like on the above graph how from hand 5600 he shoves 500 hands in a row, loses 100BIs and his EV is dead even.

Then he shoves another 500 hands in a row and really starts running bad. He loses another 225 BIs and is outraged he ran 75BIs under EV.

Down 425 BIs in 1000 hands. How's it even possible.

Next time you feel that level of frustration Paisting you should just put your fist through the laptop. More satisfying and it will ultimately save you money in the long run.
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09-15-2021 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dogarse
I also like on the above graph how from hand 5600 he shoves 500 hands in a row, loses 100BIs and his EV is dead even.

Then he shoves another 500 hands in a row and really starts running bad. He loses another 225 BIs and is outraged he ran 75BIs under EV.

Down 425 BIs in 1000 hands. How's it even possible.

Next time you feel that level of frustration Paisting you should just put your fist through the laptop. More satisfying and it will ultimately save you money in the long run.
finally some sound reasoning and good advice!
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09-16-2021 , 07:00 AM
All-in cash out has a juice (1%?), so in theory Paisting will lose even more. But if that allows Paisting to not go on tilt-shove fests, then maybe he can even win!
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09-16-2021 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 18000rpm
All-in cash out has a juice (1%?), so in theory Paisting will lose even more. But if that allows Paisting to not go on tilt-shove fests, then maybe he can even win!
Poker sites love this guy, not only does he donate infinite to the player pool, but he also donates infinite rake to the site
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09-16-2021 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
What are your stats? Why should I fix what isn't broken???
13.5 vpip?? how do you not see something wrong with that lmao
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09-16-2021 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 18000rpm
All-in cash out has a juice (1%?), so in theory Paisting will lose even more. But if that allows Paisting to not go on tilt-shove fests, then maybe he can even win!
I think some have argued that when Paisting tilt shoves, his all-in equity estimate is wrong because people hold his outs (people folding to his 42o all in are more likely to hold a 4 or a 2 vs holding an A or a K needed by the people calling him with AK or something), so it might be the only player in the history of online poker where the cash out loses money for stars
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09-16-2021 , 10:21 AM
In. GL OP. What's the number one thing you've learned about poker strategy over the course of this thread? Any mental game tips?
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09-16-2021 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
What are your stats?
FR I'm about 21/17/8, WWSF 44, Agg% 48. My postflop stats seem too passive but some of my stats are definitely skewed by the relatively high frequency of multiway flops compared to tougher games.

Aside from being too tight you're too passive, especially considering you're entering pots with such strong ranges. Strong preflop ranges should be able to support higher postflop aggression. Even accounting for MW pots I think your WWSF/WTSD/Agg% show huge leaks.

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Why should I fix what isn't broken???
Because you could win more in the present and you may not always have access to such soft games in the future. Gotta put in some work if you wanna keep up with the times or you might find yourself losing in a few years.
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09-16-2021 , 11:25 AM
yeah lke you can continue your entire life playing 200nl full ring on ignition wiht 14 ****ing vpip or actually put work in your game and move up, your choice really.
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