opening 22 utg is the most correct thing paisting has ever done

How about opening for 4x lol?

Whales call with much with wider ranges when he raises smaller which obviously infuriates him no matter how much +EV it generates.

It would be fun to know how many BB Paisting opens with on average. Obviously huge considering his all-in tilt seasons. What's the over/under?

Just writing to that guy who says 22 is fold utg when people are stacking of with tens on A and Q on board. Maybe he thinks they fold AT and KQ.

But again "You wanna bet maximum they call". You know what book is that? It has been mentioned earlier. It's Theory of Poker by David Sklansky. You say that book is outdated and refer some charts that pio is giving you.

I ask when pio has dated to nl2? Where is pio scenarios where you raise and get 3 callers and 4 players on flop? I don't see those ever. I only see scenarios where 1 player raises and 1 player calls. How often that happen on nl2? I can tell you 1 time on 10. Normal is that you raise and get 2 callers.

Let's talk then about raise sizes. Pio and these other programs that simulate playing agains perfect player open super small, then bet on flop super small. Let's say you raise 2.5 and get 2 callers bet on flop and they fold. Did you raise maximum they call? No you did not. Let's say you raise 3x and get 2 callers bet flop and then fold. Did you bet maximum they call? No you don't. Pio is making massive errors against these whales. If you bet small on Axx board with KK they call with J2 and what you do on turn when they bet. You can throw pio ranges to trash when playing there.

Only thing that is good about pio and snowie is that people who tries to mimic those bet so small with premiums than you can call with very wide range to crack their aces etc.

But really nl2 you don't have 2% this and 50% this. You have 100% exploit.

Well you adjust and:
Print money IMO.

4x might be optimal at very highly raked games.

Was it a good play to shove 20buyins over a minraise with A4o?

OK, and how exactly are you exploiting the pool by open shoving every hand?

You can barely break even at nl2 when you aren't shoving all in for hundreds of hands in a row. Stop talking like you know the first thing about poker strategy, you don't.

its slightly better than his standard opening size of 100bb

You gotta let those min-raise stealer whales know you won't be bullied, man!

Paisting - you are probably the only player losing 100bb/100+ and that at 2NL vs the worst players.
How can you seriousely call someone a whale?
You must be a troll...

He talks about min raises and small bets being a mistake at 2NL according to Sklansky. Yet he can't figure out how to play against such a strategy effectively and instead chooses to just jam.

So, if your EV was neutral and you had only lost 500BIs instead of 600BIs would you consider it a good month?

I have tried every possible move available and I always start raising, flatting, check raising etc. But they are so stubborn that they won’t stop. Their brains are not working like normal people who adjust. They steal even if you raise them, they call and won’t fold flops. There are not so many moves available after that how you can show you’re blinds are not available with minraise.

Well ...

Yeah, 10x-ing 93o vs a button min (I've seen you do that) will really show them, especially if you play super weak when called.

FINALLY PAISTING ADMITS HE'S BEING OUTPLAYED!

For the first time in this thread you've admitted a weakness in your game. That's a very good start. It seems you struggle playing against late position min raises from the blinds. Now that you've identified the problem, you can work towards a solution.

You could of course continue shoving every hand vs. a min raise, but that isn't really optimal. According to the fabled David Sklanksy, you want to raise maximum amount they'll call with worse hands. I doubt anyone is calling 98bb with worse than 94o. So, let's try to find another option.

Perhaps instead of shoving you should consider developing a solid preflop strategy based on mathematics. For example assume you're in the BB and BTN min raises. He's risking 2bb to win 1.5bb. If his steal works more than 57% of the time, he auto profits. Fortunately, the SB defends some of the time, let's say 17%. Thus we have to defend around 40% of our range to make BB indifferent. Fortunately for us, GTOWizard has free, solved preflop ranges so we don't have to work out exactly how to come up with that 40% figure, we can just roughly copy this:



Building on that, we can start thinking about our postflop strategy. Say you're struggling to defend flops often enough after you flat BTNs raise from BB. Ask yourself how does BTN's range interact with flops? How does our range interact with flops? Which boards are good for us and which are good for BTN? What strategy can we employ to dissuade BTN from over c-betting every single flop? Try to really think about these concepts before looking at any sims.

Then if you're still having trouble coming up with an adequate strategy once you call from BB preflop and BTN c-bets, why not run some sims and see how a solver reacts? You said you have PioSOLVER, so you can even node lock for villain's over-cbetting and see how the solver exploits that. If you don't actually have access to Pio, fortunately GTOWizard also offers a 1-day free trial with access to all postflop solves. Try looking at how it reacts on a board like K45 that BTN will likely c-bet his entire range for a small sizing on. Once you learn some of the patterns, you can start deviating and optimizing your strategy to exploit villain, who will very likely be playing far from GTO. If you do this right, you'll be extremely happy if your opponents continue to open 100% range on BTN, because you'll be printing money against them every time they do.

Good luck buddy, I'm rooting for you.

^ well, that was a waste of time you'll never get back. you're a kind person though!

Your brain works ok?

How many times you have seen me limping? Do I raise 100% if blinds are reraising? Do I stubborn keep up it? You are basically saying that they are playing perfect. Limp call limp call. Go and tell to poker authors that not writing to books then that "don't limp".

fixed that post for you.


LISTEN GUYS, HE DOESN'T RAISE BUTTON 100% WHEN FOLDED TO HIM. HE JUST SHOVES UP TO 2.4K BIG BLINDS OVER A MINRAISE FROM THE BLINDS IF IT'S BY SOMEONE THAT PLAYS BAD FROM LATE POSITION!

Ironically limping more would probably help your win rate

fixed

You change my comments because you have proven been wrong and telling things that are not truth.

Project much? Psychiatric help is your only solution.