Yes there are. I can tell at least 10 guys who have played 15 years nl2 and enormous hours per week. Many of them are familiar from party poker, then played 888 and some of them acr.

One of them is osjaguar1 who has been playing from my start. He has unbelievable luck against me and has cracked my aces and kings over 20 times this year. One thing that is strange is that almost everyone of these guys and nicknames who has been playing over tens years and from my start are sucking out my premiums very high frequency.

Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 4 players

Hero (UTG): $2.00 (100 bb)
LukasARG (BU): $2.74 (137 bb)
PartnerX (SB): $1.22 (61 bb)
osjaguar1 (BB): $2.38 (119 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with K♣ K♠
Hero (UTG) raises to $0.08, 2 players fold, osjaguar1 (BB) 3-bets to $0.30, Hero (UTG) 4-bets to $2 (all-in), osjaguar1 (BB) calls $1.70

Flop: ($4.01) 3♥ 2♦ J♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($4.01) 5♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.01) A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.01 (Rake: $0.20)

Showdown:
Hero (UTG) shows K♣ K♠ (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 84%, River: 0%)

osjaguar1 (BB) shows A♠ K♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 16%, River: 100%)

osjaguar1 (BB) wins $3.81

What is he supposed to do? Having AK vs you is basically like having AA vs any reasonable opponent. As for him sucking out a lot, how about you post an EV graph?

dear god ive never seen anyone win a 30% chance before, how the **** is that possible

It is not.

You are actually right about this. I play 2z recreationally, less than 2k hands a month most of the time. I tagged a few of the regs and every time I open up the poker client I see them in the ZOOM player list without fail. They easily play 12+ hours a day, yet I've never seen them move up. All play the same nitty 14% VPIP style. I'm sure they're winning money from people punting off to them, but surely they could get a better hourly by just moving up? Never understood what the deal with these guys was.

so report them as bots to stars... they have a team that will investigate and if they find they are indeed bots they will ban them

Never said anything about them being bots. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're not.

a large group of players... all playing 12+ hours a day at z2 without changing stakes and all playing the same style as well
that doesnt sound very human-like and my alarm bells would start ringing. Are they by any chance from the same country/region? Tbf they sound a lot like bots to me

A lot are from Eastern European countries, but not all from the same one. I even had a conversation with one of them in chat. I also think Pokerstars takes game integrity more seriously than most sites, I doubt anyone would bother programming a bot that can bypass their detection algorithms to make something like $1 per account per hour.

This is one of the saddest, degenerate threads I have ever come across. Nobody should encourage him to continue punting.

Get Help OP.

Site is clearly rigged against you imo. Keep grinding it out your luck will turn around soon

Is KK vs AK what you described as punting? Or in same scenario AK is that punting. I'm also interested about what all in ev is punting when sucked out and what is not. Is 60% punting, 55%?

AK vs KK all in pre is standard. It's normal to get it all in with the best hand sometimes and lose.

Punting is when you jam for hundred of hands in a row with any two cards. Hundreds of punts in a row. Come on man!

So true. His gambling problem is very deep and unique by its quality as he always somehow ignores the fact that he is not +EV player and its really obvious he can't become one. Someone else's fault that he plays, opponents fault he loses etc.

People have problems and are different but the only way to really work on something is to admit the real problem is in yourself .

FAIL; FAIL; FAIL ;FAIL FAIL


New screenname for you: Mr.FAIL

If you're really not sure where you're punting, share your database with some user you trust here and have him review it. Anyone who knows poker basics will immediately be able to point out all the hand histories where you punt.

Nope, but jamming for what looks like >1,000 hands straight with what may have been 30% (*) equity on average certainly qualifies ...



(*) I only made this up, it may be even lower, just take a look at your database and let us know.

this is the first time you admitted you were a bad player.

finally you wrote something reasonable

Can't we all rally together and coach paistings into being a winning player would make for an amazing story if it was possible u just have to actually want to improve
At moment just seem like a degen that wants to gmable u actually be better with sports or blackjack

Have u read any poker material
Try super system 2
Theory of poker
Or blackrain79 micro stakes
There all dated but at this point anything would help

It's not possible, just forget it. Unless you want to stand over his shoulder and beat him up every time he tries to open shove.

I don't get it. Paisting made a post about how running bad made him "play even worse". Jamming all-in every hand is the absolutely nut low strategy. It's impossible to play any worse. Running bad while jamming all-in every hand doesn't even begin to matter ...

It would be like coaching one of those 600 lb people on the TLC programs into an Olympic sprinter.

ahahaha made my day.

Paysting for olympic gold now. more realistic than get the 20 k back

ahahahahahahaha

he could fold his good hands and jam all the other ones. or even better, raise/fold for 99% of stack. give the guy some credit.