Is is just a coincidence that you didn't call the coach a POKER coach specifically? I don't think that he would need a POKER coach actually (eg, "BTN raises 2x, what kind of range do we 3-bet with?"). Fix his huuuuuuuge mental game leaks (eg., "BTN doesn't 2x because he's trying to humiliate me") and the rest will just come along in some way.

As an aside, I think you could set up Paisting to become a winning player just by getting him to play on Pokerstars while using a standard PC that has Tiltbreaker installed. Just implement a super strict stop loss (eg "lose 2 buy-ins in a session and you can't play another hand for one hour") and he should do just fine.

I think he is talking about Charlie Carrel.

Dont understand how anyone can still try to help this ignorant, stupid, rude person.

Maybe Charlies Spiritual Masterclass can bring Paisting on the right way

this guy is trolling you all or he has the self-awareness of michael scott.

Yes I meant a poker coach. It would be a full time gig for everyone involved for at least 3 weeks. Obviously it depends on Paisting though..

Paisting, why not just try playing on Pokerstars and using the cash out feature to see if it helps you? Deposit like $20 and give it a go. If the games really are as tough as you say then you can just leave and never come back. Not like $20 is going to make or break your journey to $16k at this point.

If you have the money, please get him Jared Tendler.

Just to reiterate, he doesn't need a top tier Poker coach. As a matter of fact, starting off with a Poker coach would be burning money. He needs to fix his MASSIVE mental leaks first. If you got this done, everything else would look easy.

I have watched all of blackrain's videos and have spoken to him loads over the years on his Facebook page etc, he is a nice guy and has been very helpful, he hasnt ever come across as arrogant to me.

He has just sometimes said he isn't a fan of forums because there is a lot of toxicity in them (which I get, I mean there often is right?) but also because because he feels there is often a lot of advice given by mid/high stakes poker players to microstakes players that although said with best intentions, is actually bad advice for beginners.

For example he isn't a fan of GTO unless youre playing at least nl50 and thinks that it actually hurts your winrate when you apply a gto style at the micros rather than an exploitative strategy. And therefore he often advises beginners to stay away from forums where there are people trying to recommend their gto strats to beginners because the game plays so differently at these stakes that often advice given by mid stakes players in forums is not good for them.

But by no means does he think he is "above" everyone in forums.

Troll confirmed. Just randomly comes and interjects that into a post and only has that to say. Ok, nah.

"Toxicity" is an anti-concept, http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anti-concepts.html that doesn't exist in reality, let alone, this forum.

As to the second point, a player would never be able to even reach 50NL, except in the case of rungood (after which they would lose it all back), in this day and age, without learning GTO concepts and strategies, and therefore, what exactly they can exploit and when.

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I mean, they are a complete idiot though. Playing GTO and never doing any exploits at micro stakes would make you an absolute crusher, with the added benefit of being more aware of it when you move up in stakes. His theory there is really ****in stupid. Mind bending stupidity. Also, for a toxic forum, there is quite a lot of genuine good advice and offers for free coaching itt for someone who was initially thought to be reaching out, but that is obviously not the case anymore, he was never looking for help

yeah, against biggest bluffers.. it was anonymous zoom game on ignition.

I wonder how long this will be going on for...

too long

Well i don't think you can call someone that has one of the highest winrates ever recorded at the micros an idiot.

Perhaps I didnt explain very well. He doesnt believe that gto is useless but that gto is a concept that assumes you're playing against decent opponents with a well balanced range etc, but this is not the case at the micros normally. For example gto or a solver might tell you to bet 33% potsize sometimes when you have a top set on a wet draw heavy board to "balance", but against a passive fish at the micros who is unlikely to raise you and isn't paying attention to your betsizes and will call with his draw whether you bet 33% or 80% is disastrous for your winrate.

And although your winrate will be good using gto at the micros, but you would actually be able to extract more money and improve your winrate further by using an exploitative strategy against the fish at these stakes.

He wrote an article on it and it's an interesting read that explains it much better, please read it before you bash him...

https://www.blackrain79.com/2019/12/...ategy.html?m=1

"In other words, trying to create a logically or mathematically sound system to beat players like this will always be flawed from the very outset."

He seems to pretend exploitative strategies aren't also based on math and logic.

First of all, well executed exploitative strategy is better than GTO by definition, since GTO is a subset of maximally exploitative strategy.

The point of learning GTO isn't necessarily to play it. Blackrain suggests that it's best to identify opponents leaks and exploit them. That's a great general strategy. However how do you identify leaks? How do you know someone is making a mistake when you don't know what correct poker looks like? Sometimes it's obvious, like this guy literally never bluffs river, so I should never call if I can't beat any hands that he would consider value. In other spots it's not so obvious. In the example in the article of a high gap between flop and turn cbet%, it's not obvious why it's an error or how it should be exploited.

It's also pretty hard to exploit players in some spots where you have no clue what their leaks might be and don't know the population tendencies. There are some spots like this where you may want to try to be mostly balanced.

Also, if people actually applied GTO to microstakes they wouldn't struggle to win. They'd probably win less than blackrain, but they'd win.

Seen as OP likes blackrain, this might be worth checking out.

https://www.blackrain79.com/2020/09/...-tilt.html?m=1

He doesn't have to be a total idiot I gueesss, but his opinion on that matter is definitely very stupid if its implication is don't learn GTO. The exploitable strategy you talk about is based off gto which your exploiting off of as a guide. Saying don't learn GTO, but somehow guess at which exploits are right is dumb, and you also hurt yourself later if you ever want to move up. It makes no sense.

Why is Paisting not playing Snap (888 version of Zoom)? At least people couldn't bum hunt him that easily and they will fold a lot more.

Yo Paisting where's the August graph? I wanna see that loss porn!

Why is Paisting playing poker?

Also waiting on the "month was really desaster" graph

Also waiting on all last month's cherry picked hands where he got it in good and lost.