It's just pathetically sad now. At least just stick your $2k/month on one roulette number if you're going to blow it anyway.

hahahahaha that table, unbelievable, average stack size 2000bb, all thanks to paisiting

You gotta know when to hold em
Know when to shove em
Know when to whine away

dude is legit braindead, i don't think it's possible to cherrypick 5 players from the world to create a 6max table he could be a winner at. mind-blowing. and i truly believe it's not even necessary to tell them the rules of poker.

Any premium, broadway, Ax (almost) just call.

if first in the pot, bet 4 cents.

Insanity. You will never win any money back so just quit now.

10 dollars suck out. It's very huge loss with AA and hard to get that EV loss back at nl2. So it's not my fault I'm losing money.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

achmedpower (UTG): $93.34 (4667 bb)
Paisting (MP): $9.59 (480 bb)
Dilettantt (CO): $15.58 (779 bb)
valbzbebeto (BU): $20.19 (1010 bb)
SraMusical (SB): $26.70 (1335 bb)
MedArmy (BB): $6.44 (322 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is MP with A♥ A♣
1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.08, 1 fold, valbzbebeto (BU) 3-bets to $0.14, 2 players fold, Paisting (MP) 4-bets to $9.59 (all-in), valbzbebeto (BU) calls $9.45

Flop: ($19.21) 2♠ 8♠ J♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($19.21) 5♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($19.21) 3♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $19.21 (Rake: $1.20)

Showdown:
Paisting (MP) shows A♥ A♣ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 58%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

valbzbebeto (BU) shows K♥ K♠ (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

valbzbebeto (BU) wins $18.01

Paisting, I think your game is lowball. you should adapt your hold'em strategy to triple draw, just leave out the good hands. Boom, you just gained +100bb/100 to be an overall -150bb/100 winner

2090:
Paisting breaks even at NL2, sells all his poker books and poker related content and buys a nice car or whatever we use for transportation by then.

Okey-dokey!

You're calling river bets with 5 high, so actually it is your fault?

If you want to turn this thing around then every single decision point has to be calculated? you're just clicking buttons dude.

Care to comments the hands i've posted?

He ignores every question that people post. At least in other PGCs you get answers from the OP. This guy just ignores absolutely everything. I asked lots of questions but not a single one has ever been answered. I can't tell if he intentionally ignores them or if he doesn't understand the English or if he's too stupid to formulate a proper response. But either way, don't expect a reply.

The best hand doesn't win every time. What about all the times you shove all-in with garbage??? Is that not your fault either? You lose because you play bad.

OP that beat is disgusting and I agree it would be hard to recover the EV. Can you please start working on getting a stream going? It would be a good way to weather the storm as you come out of this downswing.

How are you planning to make money to get a car?

Has anyone actually ever spoke to OP in person?

What's the max buy-in at this table??

Pacific Poker - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 131.5 BB
SB: 684.5 BB
BB: 833 BB
Hero (UTG): 951.5 BB
MP: 886.5 BB
CO: 699.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 J

fold, fold, CO raises to 699.5 BB and is all-in, fold, SB calls 684 BB and is all-in, fold

Flop: (1370 BB, 2 players) 4 3 2

Turn: (1370 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (1370 BB, 2 players) 8

SB shows K A (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 68%, Flop 82%, Turn 88%)
CO shows J T (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 32%, Flop 18%, Turn 12%)
SB wins 1284.5 BB
Rake paid 85.5 BB


And unrelated, the biggest pot I ever played in terms of bb. Felt pretty bad for the other guy...
Paisting quadrupled up.

Notice the 200bb raked

Pacific Poker - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 718 BB
BB: 1158 BB
UTG: 2039.5 BB
Hero (MP): 2157 BB
CO: 102.5 BB
BTN: 1182 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, CO raises to 102.5 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 102.5 BB, fold, fold, UTG raises to 230.5 BB, Hero raises to 564 BB, fold, UTG raises to 2039.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 1475.5 BB

Flop: (4285.5 BB, 3 players) 6 8 5

Turn: (4285.5 BB, 3 players) 3

River: (4285.5 BB, 3 players) 8

UTG shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)

Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Eights)

CO shows 7 9 (Straight, Nine High)

CO wins 386 BB
Rake paid 200 BB
Hero wins 3699.5 BB

Guys like "achmedpower" are pretty sad as well IMO. Sure you want to make money, but bum hunting at NL2 against someone with a gambling addiction and numerous other mental health issues is unethical. Lots of people will disagree, and if I didn't know Paisting I'd most likely do the same and assume he's just blasting off for fun but after reading the thread I wouldn't enable him.

If achmedpower isn't on 2+2 then there's no issue really, but I'm guessing he plays much higher and knows exactly what he's doing.

If achmedpower didn't bumhunt him someone else would. Paisting has been told multiple times that he has a gambling problem and he ignores it. No one who plays "much higher" would ever bother even looking at a 2NL table. No one is enabling Paisting by playing against him.

What if achmedpower lives in a third world country and feeds his kids with his 2NL winnings? Does that make it ethical?

Its me and I agree to some extend, but bear in mind I tried all of the following:

-Tell OP to stop in game
-Point him to stats clearly indicating no one is opening 80% of buttons (well no one except himself)
-Asking him if I should change my opening size (clearly he hates min raises)

And most importantly

-Telling him my exact hole cards and not lying about it a single time

Might as well be me then, if not paisting is just gonna donate to the nl2 pool after which most of it will go the casino as rake anyway.
At least i can do something useful with it.

I’ve only went on a stretch of 10k hands of 8 KK into AA and won 0. All while having 0 AA into KK.

Poker sucks sometimes but guess what, if you aren’t a monkey you can win.

Bad news op, you’re a monkey

Fair enough, enjoy your $70.

Why Paisting runs below EV

In the very first post of this thread, Paisting shows a graph of him being 4396 buyins down at 2nl, and he mentions running "82 buyins below EV". The truth is: this is hugely misrepresented.

When you jam ATC pre, you're going to be getting it in with "blocked outs" more often than your opponent, and thus your tracker will register it as you running below EV, when in fact, it's only because we can't see the other players' hole cards (the ones that folded) that makes it appear that way.

Allow me to explain better:
Imagine you are on a 6max table and you rip in 100bbs pre with 32o. 4 players fold and you get 1 caller. Whatever you got called by, you're going to need to improve (eg. hit your pair) to win the hand.

Now according to the equity calculator, you've got 6 outs to pair up, and if your opponent called you with a hand like AK, they also have 6 outs to pair up. But here is the thing: due to the other 4 players in the hand (the ones that folded pre), you're actually less likely to pair up than your opponent is. That's because it's more likely the other 4 players in the hand folded low cards, as opposed to high cards. So it's more likely they have blockers to your pair of 2's or 3's, compared to blockers against your opponent's A's or K's.

But since the equity calculator never gets to see the hole cards of the other 4 players, it can't take their blockers into account when it calculates your all-in EV. It only takes into account your hand + your opponent's hand, and assumes that the deck contains the other 48 cards at equal probability, which isn't the case in reality.

So in truth: Paisting did not actually run 82 buyins below EV. In fact, he may have actually run above EV! The fact that he stacks off so frequently with hands where his pair outs are blocked off by the players who folded pre is just part of the equation that doesn't get accounted for in his tracker.

Sorry Paisting, but you're probably not running bad. You've just misunderstood the way your tracker calculates all-in EV, and the limitations behind those calculations.