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11-25-2010 , 03:31 PM
Update

Today was a rough session. Was about even for most of the day and ended on a sour note. Was dealt qq and flatted in position against a lag player. Flop is A-A-Q. Long story short got in all in on turn only to find out was up against AQ. Cooler flop but what are you going to do. Ended up losing $2.19 on the session.

Here are updated numbers.

Bankroll----- $56.20 -$2.19 for the session
Challenge--- +$13.39
VPP for Month 252.68
VPP for Year 306.17

NOTE:

Playing at this level makes me appreciate a little more on the importance of bankroll management. I can see that variance is a bitch sometimes and without having the right bankroll could easily effect your play. This only makes me more determined to stick with this and GRIND IT OUT!!


Cheers.
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11-28-2010 , 03:42 PM
Update!

So after having to take a break the last couple of days, I was back at it today with a short session. Good results showing a $.75 profit.

Here are the numbers.

Bankroll----- $56.95 +$0.75 for the session
Challenge--- +$14.14
VPP for Month 256.71
VPP for Year 310.20


Will be back at it tomorrow for a longer session.

Later
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11-28-2010 , 09:06 PM
LOL dude youre really funnny. If you check every post its like UPDATE UPDATE yet another UPDATE lol thats awesome. I like the play so far and i'm grinding 2nl on stars like u and we have around the same BR. A few suggestions:

Have you tried more tables?
When will you start taking shots at 5nl?

If u try more tables, your winrate may go down, although you will achieve silverstar and have tons of more action. Im currently playing 16 at once and it clears bonus'/silverstar quickly. I achieved silverstar in the middle of November, and i have also noticed 16 = nearly 1k/hr Just Keep it in mind

CHEERS!
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11-28-2010 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
LOL dude youre really funnny. If you check every post its like UPDATE UPDATE yet another UPDATE lol thats awesome. I like the play so far and i'm grinding 2nl on stars like u and we have around the same BR. A few suggestions:

Have you tried more tables?
When will you start taking shots at 5nl?

If u try more tables, your winrate may go down, although you will achieve silverstar and have tons of more action. Im currently playing 16 at once and it clears bonus'/silverstar quickly. I achieved silverstar in the middle of November, and i have also noticed 16 = nearly 1k/hr Just Keep it in mind

CHEERS!
I too play 16 tables (currently 5NL) and its great for RB and points. I also find it easier to dump medicore hands as I'm playing so many.
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11-29-2010 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
LOL dude youre really funnny. If you check every post its like UPDATE UPDATE yet another UPDATE lol thats awesome. I like the play so far and i'm grinding 2nl on stars like u and we have around the same BR. A few suggestions:

Have you tried more tables?
When will you start taking shots at 5nl?

If u try more tables, your winrate may go down, although you will achieve silverstar and have tons of more action. Im currently playing 16 at once and it clears bonus'/silverstar quickly. I achieved silverstar in the middle of November, and i have also noticed 16 = nearly 1k/hr Just Keep it in mind

CHEERS!


Ya I know...UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

One of the reasons for starting this challenge was to improve my online game. I have been comfortable playing 6 tables. It gives me a better opportunity to learn ranges of other players and also their betting habits. I feel that if I were to increase the amount of tables to 16 I would lose a bit of that edge that I have. I do understand that by increasing the amount of tables would allow me to achieve silver star quicker, it might keep me stuck at a certain level a little longer than planned.

My goal is to move up to 5nl at $100.00. I have also contemplated waiting till $110.00 and use that extra 10% towards starting a tourny roll both for MTT and s@go's. I do love to play tournies and would like to keep it seperate from my cash game challenge.

Just a thought

Thanks for the hints and advice and may consider adding a couple more tables to see if I can handle it without changing the way i am able to read and play.

Next session when I wake up.
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11-29-2010 , 07:28 AM
@qbvbsite are you playing FR or SH?!

Arizona just remember to start taking shots at 100 it's hard to get used to right away. As well if youre playing 6 compared to 16 and lets say your win rate is originally 6BB/100. If you're winrate goes down half by playing 16 so 3BB/100 you're winning more money and achieving silver quicker. Just keep it in mind mate,

BOOKMARKED.
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11-30-2010 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
@qbvbsite are you playing FR or SH?!

Arizona just remember to start taking shots at 100 it's hard to get used to right away. As well if youre playing 6 compared to 16 and lets say your win rate is originally 6BB/100. If you're winrate goes down half by playing 16 so 3BB/100 you're winning more money and achieving silver quicker. Just keep it in mind mate,

BOOKMARKED.
You make some very good points. Played a session this morning, just got home from work so will post results after tomorrow's session. I think I will increase the number of tables starting tomorrow and feel it out for a while.

Thanks for the advice and glad you are following me.
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11-30-2010 , 08:36 AM
For sure just give it a try and if it doesn't work, go back. Where do you work? You live in Nations Capital am i right?
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11-30-2010 , 04:12 PM
Okay Update!


I took some advice and added a few more tables. The results weren't good but I don't attribute that to the additional tables just bad luck. I have increased from 6 to 9 tables. The bad luck came from villans hitting back door flushes and gut shots to my over-pairs. Got the money in good but couldn't hold. Total result is -$2.90 for the session.

I will keep it at 9 tables for a little while, if i notice i am consistently losing I will drop back to my normal 6.

Here are the numbers.

Bankroll----- $54.05 -$2.90 for the session
Challenge--- +$11.24
VPP for Month 277.56
VPP for Year 331.05

On a side note, almost half way to the $10 stellar reward which will give my roll a little boost.

Next session tomorrow. May have the day off so looking to put in a couple of longer session to start off December quickly.
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11-30-2010 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
For sure just give it a try and if it doesn't work, go back. Where do you work? You live in Nations Capital am i right?
You are correct, I am doing some evening to night work. I recently quit my profession in the automotive business of 15 years to pursue a passion of mine. No not poker....lol. Another passion. I have always wanted to be an Air Traffic controller and have recently passed the first 2 stages. I am 40 years old and I figured if I want to do this I have to do it sooner than later.

So a Friend of mine offered to deliver pizza for his restaurant while I gave this a shot. I could always go back to the automotive business but wanted to take the risk.

More on this later


Cheers
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12-01-2010 , 04:08 PM
New Month Update!

Well, I continued playing 9 tables today and I think I am getting the hang of it. The session today was okay but still ended up losing a little over a buy-in. I know that I probably made a few bad decisionas and a couple of misclicks, but over time this should get better. I ended up losing $2.14 for the session.

One of the faults that i have is calling someone's overbet thinking I am good with my over-pair. I lost 3 big pots today with 10's when I ran into a bigger PP. I will have to work on this.

Here are the updated numbers.

Bankroll----- $51.91 -$2.14 for the session.
Challenge--- +$9.10
VPP for Month 12.07
VPP for Year 343.12

Again, I have to realize that the first little while in my challenge their will be ups and downs untill I find my comfort zone in play. I am trying to pinpoint some of my weaknesses and fix them. I have noticed a couple of areas both in c-betting and calling 3-bets. So I will try and get better in these areas.

Thats it for today

Later
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12-01-2010 , 05:04 PM
Hey,

Are you playing FR? I've been playing some 6-max and losing at a -5/100 basis and ive notices it's not for me. I like playing many FR games at once and win at around a 10/100BB basis. I've also been playing a little on FullTilt and playing Rush Poker, and i'm actually quite decent at it. SO im going to see how it goes.

My Update anyways. It looks like you know what you're doing maybe ill see you at the tables. Whats your SN? Mine is iilovelamp on FT and iloovelamp on PS!
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12-01-2010 , 07:11 PM
Solid progress man, keep it up!
Yeah it will definitely be ups and downs. We take advantage of ups, and learn from downs. I have a similar challenge like yours(swing by my thread here anytime), and I lost all my winnings(about $50) in like 5 days playing NL2 FR. But now I'm +$60 and trying to push BR to play 6 table NL5. It's always good to learn.
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12-01-2010 , 11:26 PM
Just wanted to show u the crap progress i made today. I dunno what it is, but i counted 67% of pocket pairs i played in my large session were cracked including 4 times with kings and 7 times by my aces :/

Heres the graph



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12-01-2010 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
@qbvbsite are you playing FR or SH?!
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I play FR. Also when 16 tabling I'm trying to stay away from marginal decisions and if i'm thinking to long (and think I'm probably beat) I just take the safe bet and fold (overpairs and TPTK are examples of this when they have been very aggressive and are decent players... I give the nits waaaay more credit then 50/20 fish). Making some of those laydowns have saved me much more then I may be losing in value.

Last edited by qbvbsite; 12-01-2010 at 11:49 PM.
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12-01-2010 , 11:48 PM
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I play FR. Also when 16 tabling I'm trying to stay away from marginal decisions and if i'm thinking to long (and think I'm probably beat) I just take the safe bet and fold (overpairs and TPTK are examples of this when they have been very aggressive and are decent players... I give the nits waaaay more credit them 50/20 fish). Making some of those laydowns have saved me much more then I may be losing in value.
I've noticed this has been happening to me, when Say I get Qs and Riase 3-4x BB I end up getting a K73 type of board and the guy would call my bets down for a big raise on the river. It reall heats me up when this happens. I have to adjust to some of the slow rolling that goes on in 2NL.
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12-01-2010 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
I've noticed this has been happening to me, when Say I get Qs and Riase 3-4x BB I end up getting a K73 type of board and the guy would call my bets down for a big raise on the river. It reall heats me up when this happens. I have to adjust to some of the slow rolling that goes on in 2NL.
That hand I would cbet 60% of the time and check the other. If he calls my cbet on the flop I try to check it out or ditch the hand. If he is just a calling station and not a nit I my fire again if it was 5NL+ but in 2NL its really pointless in marginal situtaions. Just remeber better hands/situtions will come especially 16 tabling.
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12-02-2010 , 03:33 AM
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That hand I would cbet 60% of the time and check the other. If he calls my cbet on the flop I try to check it out or ditch the hand. If he is just a calling station and not a nit I my fire again if it was 5NL+ but in 2NL its really pointless in marginal situtaions. Just remeber better hands/situtions will come especially 16 tabling.
BTW Thanks guys for coming into my thread. I love the discussion as it will probably help all of us in the long run. You bring up some good points here. I have to keep reminding myself that by multitabling we will be sure to find ourselves in better positions and hands against the weaker players. Patience is a virtue in micro and we have to be aware of that.
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12-02-2010 , 03:35 AM
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Solid progress man, keep it up!
Yeah it will definitely be ups and downs. We take advantage of ups, and learn from downs. I have a similar challenge like yours(swing by my thread here anytime), and I lost all my winnings(about $50) in like 5 days playing NL2 FR. But now I'm +$60 and trying to push BR to play 6 table NL5. It's always good to learn.
Thanks and I will try and stop by your thread. The words of encouragement only make me want to work harder!!!!

Best of luck with your challenge, and I wish you the best.
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12-02-2010 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
Hey,

Are you playing FR? I've been playing some 6-max and losing at a -5/100 basis and ive notices it's not for me. I like playing many FR games at once and win at around a 10/100BB basis. I've also been playing a little on FullTilt and playing Rush Poker, and i'm actually quite decent at it. SO im going to see how it goes.

My Update anyways. It looks like you know what you're doing maybe ill see you at the tables. Whats your SN? Mine is iilovelamp on FT and iloovelamp on PS!
I am playing FR on Stars, I feel that I would have to work on my game a little more for 6max, and may switch once out of the micros and in the mid-level.

My screen name is the same arizona4050
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12-02-2010 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
Just wanted to show u the crap progress i made today. I dunno what it is, but i counted 67% of pocket pairs i played in my large session were cracked including 4 times with kings and 7 times by my aces :/

Heres the graph



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EEESH.... Bad day for sure.

Here is what I have learned. What matters to me most when my pre-flop raises get called when I have a big pair is the flop texture. If in position and the board looks scary ex) 8-9-J with 2 hearts, I may want to play less aggressive than if the board is 2-9-K rainbow.

If someone is calling you pre-flop without 3-betting you, likely a flop like 8-9-J will really fall into their range alot of the time.

Don't be afraid to let your big pairs go.....More will come and you will be in a better position later on. Last session I folded my Aces twice on the turn and once on the river because the board looked scary to me. Remember....Aces are only one pair and could easily be beat!!!!


Hope that helps a little.
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12-02-2010 , 09:50 AM
Ya, for sure.

I put in a small session this morning and I cant find the HH but i had aces UTG +2 and raised 4x with AA and one guy called. The Flop came 10 J K K and J both spades and this guy bets .32 into a 19 cent pot i thought about his range and i think he either had 10J or AQ so I layed it down and he showed AQ of spades. I really have to work on not calling reshoves preflop with J's AK, because alot of the time i run into K's, A's. I need to get used to cash games compared to the tournaments I use to play. I think im progressing well compared to when I started.
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12-02-2010 , 04:04 PM
Update!

Okay, so I played a very short session today, slept in a little...lol. Decided to tighten up a little more pre-flop and results were a little better. I ended up cashing a small profit of $.08. It would have been better if not for a huge suckout when my KK got cracked by 99 with a lovely 9 on the river

But at least I am back on the positive side of the ledger.

Here are updated numbers.

Bankroll----- $51.99 +$.08 for the session
Challenge--- +$9.18
VPP for Month 18.10
VPP for Year 349.15

According to PTR I am running just short of 5bb/100. So what I really need to do is put in alot more volume this month. I am going to try and schedule a block of playing time where i can play more hands.

Later guys and gals!
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12-02-2010 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovelamp
Ya, for sure.

I put in a small session this morning and I cant find the HH but i had aces UTG +2 and raised 4x with AA and one guy called. The Flop came 10 J K K and J both spades and this guy bets .32 into a 19 cent pot i thought about his range and i think he either had 10J or AQ so I layed it down and he showed AQ of spades. I really have to work on not calling reshoves preflop with J's AK, because alot of the time i run into K's, A's. I need to get used to cash games compared to the tournaments I use to play. I think im progressing well compared to when I started.
I think I might have layed that down as well. Result shows that you were right and you can take something positive from that. Keep making reads like that and you will be building your roll in no time

As always, GL
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12-03-2010 , 03:59 PM
Update Time!!!

Just finished a very profitable session. I eneded the session +$7.41 for the best result so far. I have become used to playing 9 tables now and have changed my game a little to adjust to micro play. The results have definately improved my calling range and my pre-flop aggression.

Here are the updated numbers.

Bankroll----- $59.40 +$7.41 for the session
Challenge--- +$16.59
VPP for Month 28.35
VPP for Year 359.40

One of the things I have noticed is how most of the players can't let go of a high pocket pair. Where my game has changed is I have no problem dumping them if the board looks scary or I feel that I am beat.

This session really gave me a boost and am looking forward to the next one to crack the $60 barrier and move onwards and upwards.

Cheers.
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