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08-25-2021 , 01:48 AM
i am a regular 1/3 player, i have made just over 5500 in earnings (online and live) so far this year, while only playing about 12 hours a week due to juggling my everyday job. well today i quit that job because me and my gf broke up and she worked there (we know how that is) and now im without a job, faced with the decision of taking the scary jump or to not too. keep in mind i have about 12k cash and my plan is to move to Biloxi, rent, and deal 35+ hours a week(or wait tables), as well as start my grind to 5/10. any advice is highly appreciated. for all the poker ive played my cash rate is above 60% and i make sure to study more than i think my opponents possibly could(: leave tips! as of now i live in louisiana):
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08-25-2021 , 01:54 AM
Probably best to take the job now and play when you can on weekends and wait until your skill level is at the point where you can win at a good rate at 2-5 or 5-10 to consider playing professionally.
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08-25-2021 , 01:57 AM
isn't there some benefits you can get from the government? I am sure there is. it was designed to help people who wanted to quit jobs or not get jobs at all. Why would you get a job? Have you not heard about this benefit? If you can get a kid you could make more.
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08-25-2021 , 01:59 AM
The same question is asked like every week on the las vegas lifestyle forum, you can check there for into too

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...gas-lifestyle/
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08-25-2021 , 02:06 AM
Deal.

Don't try and make a living playing live poker. It's the most miserable existence.
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08-25-2021 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam Ganzfried
Probably best to take the job now and play when you can on weekends and wait until your skill level is at the point where you can win at a good rate at 2-5 or 5-10 to consider playing professionally.
im confidently crushing 1/3 games im playing at between here and biloxi, obviously playing 1/3 for roughly 10/12 hours a week, my sample size is small. very small, but after crushing micro stakes online at an effortless rate and tracking my numbers and comparing them to superior players, i find that my numbers are quite similar, and the win rate backs it up. im am an AVID studier and the only reason i havent jumped into 2/5, is because my bank roll is slacking from lack of time to play (which just drastically increased)
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08-25-2021 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by onemoretimes
Deal.

Don't try and make a living playing live poker. It's the most miserable existence.
i dont plan to play for a living playing live in biloxi, currently the idea is to deal in biloxi and continue to play but more often (since ill literally live in biloxi), and after 2/3 years experience, take my poker and dealing out west. just nervous to take the leap. im 23
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08-25-2021 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by snowie963
isn't there some benefits you can get from the government? I am sure there is. it was designed to help people who wanted to quit jobs or not get jobs at all. Why would you get a job? Have you not heard about this benefit? If you can get a kid you could make more.
why get a job? when i can file for benefits, knock a girl up, AND take money from deep pocket gamblers like yourself, sir. read the post, it includes getting a job. thanks though
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08-25-2021 , 03:49 AM
It sounds like you have a plan. What kind of advice are you looking for? What to do at 5 10 when someone with position on you is is potting every time you check and you have a marginal hand? That's what mid stakes poker is and it's stressful.

You should read a medical textbook or popular science book about the effects of stress on the human body and then factor that knowledge into your plans.
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08-25-2021 , 04:48 AM
You don't need advice. Start working as a dealer and then play in your spare time. You're 23 and have all the time in the world.

Definitely do the regular job like you plan to. Variance free income is the nuts.
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08-25-2021 , 09:58 AM
Um, what.
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08-25-2021 , 10:11 AM
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Um, what.
What's confusing? He studies hardcore and as such his cash rate is a whopping 60%.
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08-25-2021 , 03:02 PM
Your main mode of playing needs to be online. The massive increase in volume more than makes up for the tougher games. 600 hands/hour at 4bb/100 at 200nl makes you almost 5x the money than 30 hands/hour at 10bb/100 at 1/3 ($48/hr for the former and ~$10/hr for the latter assuming 100 hands/hour online, 6 tabling). And that's before the time it takes to get to the room, waiting on lists, etc.

If you truly crush online micros (I'm pretty skeptical you crush micros over a sufficient sample but whatever) then I'm sure you can win to some degree at a stake like 100 or 200nl, particularly on these soft American sites. I've never played micros, but I know that the rake is ridiculously high, some even say "close to unbeatably" high, so anybody beating the game is doing some things right.

You say you have 12k cash. I'd put 5k on Ignition and one or two other soft US sites and 6 table (4 table cap on Ignition) 100nl with a 50 BI roll. This is not exactly sound BRM advice, as you'll have an insufficient amount of money for living expenses tucked away, but EVERY path forward that involves you playing poker carries risk, given your circumstances, so you might as well pick the one that gives the highest hourly.

Last edited by DifferentName; 08-25-2021 at 03:11 PM.
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08-25-2021 , 03:06 PM
I'd think anybody would quickly feel some poker burnout after dealing 35hours/week PLUS actually grinding the game for a living. Dislike this idea.
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08-25-2021 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DifferentName
Your main mode of playing needs to be online. The massive increase in volume more than makes up for the tougher games. 600 hands/hour at 4bb/100 at 200nl makes you almost 5x the money than 30 hands/hour at 10bb/100 at 1/3 ($48/hr for the former and ~$10/hr for the latter assuming 100 hands/hour online, 6 tabling). And that's before the time it takes to get to the room, waiting on lists, etc.

If you truly crush online micros (I'm pretty skeptical you crush micros over a sufficient sample but whatever) then I'm sure you can win to some degree at a stake like 100 or 200nl, particularly on these soft American sites. I've never played micros, but I know that the rake is ridiculously high, some even say "close to unbeatably" high, so anybody beating the game is doing some things right.

You say you have 12k cash. I'd put 5k on Ignition and one or two other soft US sites and 6 table (4 table cap on Ignition) 100nl with a 50 BI roll. This is not exactly sound BRM advice, as you'll have an insufficient amount of money for living expenses tucked away, but EVERY path forward that involves you playing poker carries risk, given your circumstances, so you might as well pick the one that gives the highest hourly.
yes sir, i track my ignition stats with drive hud, ive done the bankroll challenge at .25/.50 3 tables at a time, and ive done that twice now. i appreciate the advice i truly do listen to those who know enough to share. i play online every night for 4-6 hours
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08-25-2021 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
It sounds like you have a plan. What kind of advice are you looking for? What to do at 5 10 when someone with position on you is is potting every time you check and you have a marginal hand? That's what mid stakes poker is and it's stressful.

You should read a medical textbook or popular science book about the effects of stress on the human body and then factor that knowledge into your plans.
this sounds pretty similar to the games im used too. kinda like a mine field eh? i play at harrahs new orleans and am often facing 1-2k stacks and i buy in for 300 at 1/3 no matter what, and ive made 4800$ this year, playing maybe once a week, playing in these deep games
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08-25-2021 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DifferentName
Your main mode of playing needs to be online. The massive increase in volume more than makes up for the tougher games. 600 hands/hour at 4bb/100 at 200nl makes you almost 5x the money than 30 hands/hour at 10bb/100 at 1/3 ($48/hr for the former and ~$10/hr for the latter assuming 100 hands/hour online, 6 tabling). And that's before the time it takes to get to the room, waiting on lists, etc.
Good live win-rates are more in the 30-40BB/100 range. The worst player at the average 200NL table would probably be the best player at the average 1|3 live table. Approximately 8/9 players at a 1|3 live table have no clue about beginner's level poker concepts like position and hand selection.

Also, if you want to maintain the same level of risk, you'd need a bigger roll at 200NL winning 4BB/100 than you would at 1|3 winning 10BB/100. Equivalent risk would be 120NL if we assume the same 4BB/100 win-rate.

We also can't just assume OP would be winning 4BB/100 online, or even winning at all. He should stick to what he knows until he can prove he can beat online games for a worthwhile rate.

Your money is also less liquid online, which is usually not a big deal if you plan properly but can be annoying sometimes.
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08-25-2021 , 11:51 PM
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Good live win-rates are more in the 30-40BB/100 range. The worst player at the average 200NL table would probably be the best player at the average 1|3 live table. Approximately 8/9 players at a 1|3 live table have no clue about beginner's level poker concepts like position and hand selection.

Also, if you want to maintain the same level of risk, you'd need a bigger roll at 200NL winning 4BB/100 than you would at 1|3 winning 10BB/100. Equivalent risk would be 120NL if we assume the same 4BB/100 win-rate.

We also can't just assume OP would be winning 4BB/100 online, or even winning at all. He should stick to what he knows until he can prove he can beat online games for a worthwhile rate.

Your money is also less liquid online, which is usually not a big deal if you plan properly but can be annoying sometimes.

As someone who ‘crushes’ 1-2/1-3/2-5 nlh and is now trying/struggling to return online I will take your statement further and say a winning nl50 reg is probably the best player at at 2-5 live game. All the advice i can take!!!
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08-26-2021 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
Good live win-rates are more in the 30-40BB/100 range. The worst player at the average 200NL table would probably be the best player at the average 1|3 live table. Approximately 8/9 players at a 1|3 live table have no clue about beginner's level poker concepts like position and hand selection.

Also, if you want to maintain the same level of risk, you'd need a bigger roll at 200NL winning 4BB/100 than you would at 1|3 winning 10BB/100. Equivalent risk would be 120NL if we assume the same 4BB/100 win-rate.

We also can't just assume OP would be winning 4BB/100 online, or even winning at all. He should stick to what he knows until he can prove he can beat online games for a worthwhile rate.

Your money is also less liquid online, which is usually not a big deal if you plan properly but can be annoying sometimes.
thank you for the advice, ill cgerish it deeply
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