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10-31-2011 , 09:04 PM
Hi bud. The most obvious thing I can see that you are having problems with is your lack of aggression. You should be raising pre with your premium hands and cbetting the flop when you hit. Until you start value betting (read as raising and 3betting pre and cbetting etc.) at 5nl, you will not be a winning player. Good luck!
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10-31-2011 , 09:50 PM
If i had a boss, i would already killed him with playing this micros lol
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10-31-2011 , 10:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indigo Black
I didn't cbet flop as he lmp cld my raise OOP, and he was running 58/12 over just 34 hands so I figured there were plenty of Ax's/Kx's in his range...

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10910832

    Hero (BB): $5.62 (112.4 bb)
    UTG: $5.40 (108 bb)
    MP: $5.83 (116.6 bb)
    CO: $6.23 (124.6 bb)
    BTN: $4.89 (97.8 bb)
    SB: $3.52 (70.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
    4 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15

    Flop: ($0.40) 2 K A (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($0.40) 6 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

    River: ($0.70) 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.30, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $0.70 pot ($0.03 rake)
    Final Board: 2 K A 6 4
    Hero mucked J J and lost (-$0.35 net)
    SB mucked and won $0.67 ($0.32 net)



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    The 7 on the TRN completed some draws hence my check, but I was surprised he checked behind? The bet on the RVR was intended as a blocker but in hindsight maybe a chk/cll as a bluff catcher may hve been the way to go??

      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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      BTN: $4.23 (84.6 bb)
      SB: $4.77 (95.4 bb)
      Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
      CO: $2.93 (58.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J Q
      CO folds, BTN calls $0.05, SB folds, Hero checks

      Flop: ($0.12) 8 Q 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.10, BTN calls $0.10

      Turn: ($0.32) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      River: ($0.32) 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.15, BTN raises to $0.40, Hero folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $0.62 pot ($0.03 rake)
      Final Board: 8 Q 6 7 4
      BTN mucked and won $0.59 ($0.29 net)
      Hero mucked J Q and lost (-$0.30 net)



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      Hand 1: If his limp calling range is about 40% of his hands (btw, Call Raise would be a stat more useful than Vpip/PFR here), not only is he playing a lot of Axs and Kxs but probably a lot of suited hands. To justify a fold on the river, his limp calling range would need to have all Ax and Kx and very few other cards. Based on his bet sizes on the turn and river, less than 1/2 pot, I would say he has a middle pair something like: {JJ-77,K9s-K2s,K9o-K7o} which would give you 33% equity, enough for a call. (even with more Kx, it's still a call). That's for his value range - I am not even counting all the trash he can possibly double barrel with...

      Hand 2: I would also raise pre. Your bet on the river is a small value bet. I wouldn't bet more than 1/3 of the pot to "block" (if block bets were part of my game, which is not the case)

      Elements of poker is ok but I strongly believe that improving your A-game is actually the best way not to tilt as Mason Malmuth said somewhere in the book forum.

      Imagine you know with absolute certainty when to raise, fold or call (perfect A-game). Would you tilt a lot? Would your emotions have a lot of control on you if you knew the perfect play?

      On the other hand, if you are unsure if you must fold or raise (imperfect A-game), won't you be tempted to trust how you feel about the hand at this very moment? Then, if you feel angry or sad, how will it affect your play?

      Good luck in your quest to get rid of your boss btw; imo, this is the best reason in the world for turning pro. Something to do after you have developed your skills and your BR.

      Last edited by Brother Love; 10-31-2011 at 10:56 PM.
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      10-31-2011 , 11:55 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Brother Love
      Hand 1:

      Good luck in your quest to get rid of your boss btw; imo, this is the best reason in the world for turning pro. Something to do after you have developed your skills and your BR.
      LOOOL!!!
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      11-01-2011 , 07:59 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Brother Love
      Elements of poker is ok but I strongly believe that improving your A-game is actually the best way not to tilt as Mason Malmuth said somewhere in the book forum.

      Imagine you know with absolute certainty when to raise, fold or call (perfect A-game). Would you tilt a lot? Would your emotions have a lot of control on you if you knew the perfect play?

      On the other hand, if you are unsure if you must fold or raise (imperfect A-game), won't you be tempted to trust how you feel about the hand at this very moment? Then, if you feel angry or sad, how will it affect your play?

      Good luck in your quest to get rid of your boss btw; imo, this is the best reason in the world for turning pro. Something to do after you have developed your skills and your BR.
      Thanks, thats one of the best replies I've seen in terms of being genuinely helpful. I intend to increase my study of the game, and I'm considering a Cardrunners, susbcription or similar?
      I do feel though that I play with to much emotion (the same with golf, I used to be a bit of a club thrower ) so working on removing some of that I think can only have a positive effect, however you are right working on my A game is the way forward.
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      11-02-2011 , 12:15 AM
      Quick post. I am a Spewtard. I just logged on at like 1230am whilst watching PStars on Poker channel. Felt like playing. Couldn't get HEM to open so played $1.50 S&G's instead. Starting BR = $168 an change.

      Ran like the worst ever.

      1)JJ PF. Raise, fold, cal, call. FLP = KKK, donked into, shvd, called by AKos!
      2)K10s PF. Rased, called by SB an BB. FLP K310r. Donked into, shvd AI, called by AKos......A on TRN!

      Played $3.50 HU S&G. PF 88. Raised, called. FLP K85. Lead out, got 3bet, 4bet,caled 5bet AI vs 55.....RVR 5!

      Proper tilted by now, bring on the $7 HU Can't remember how I lost (Buds kicking in) but got sucked out on, and abused in Chat! lol.

      BR = $140ish

      Notice d 70billionth hand countdown, so thought fkit opened a $25nl table. Missed 70Bill hand, watched two dudes played HU $50k plus vs $30k win it. DSude raised PF, got 3bet, folded. The guy with 50k won 13k more, the nother dude and some guy sitting out won 6k!!!!

      Strangely enough [played really well just one table, no HEM BR now........$164 and change. Fun over as gone 4am so bedtime. Happy only down a BI for sush an evetful night!
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      11-02-2011 , 02:06 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Indigo Black
      Quick post. I am a Spewtard. I just logged on at like 1230am whilst watching PStars on Poker channel. Felt like playing. Couldn't get HEM to open so played $1.50 S&G's instead. Starting BR = $168 an change.

      Ran like the worst ever.

      1)JJ PF. Raise, fold, cal, call. FLP = KKK, donked into, shvd, called by AKos!
      2)K10s PF. Rased, called by SB an BB. FLP K310r. Donked into, shvd AI, called by AKos......A on TRN!

      Played $3.50 HU S&G. PF 88. Raised, called. FLP K85. Lead out, got 3bet, 4bet,caled 5bet AI vs 55.....RVR 5!

      Proper tilted by now, bring on the $7 HU Can't remember how I lost (Buds kicking in) but got sucked out on, and abused in Chat! lol.

      BR = $140ish

      Notice d 70billionth hand countdown, so thought fkit opened a $25nl table. Missed 70Bill hand, watched two dudes played HU $50k plus vs $30k win it. DSude raised PF, got 3bet, folded. The guy with 50k won 13k more, the nother dude and some guy sitting out won 6k!!!!

      Strangely enough [played really well just one table, no HEM BR now........$164 and change. Fun over as gone 4am so bedtime. Happy only down a BI for sush an evetful night!
      Are u drunk or something? there is like at least day or two to 70th bln hand lol, it's going every 1 mln milestone hand right now..

      Missed lol, ahaha i must say ohhh damn how can you missed that loool

      Last edited by DREAM333R; 11-02-2011 at 02:17 AM.
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      11-07-2011 , 07:42 AM
      Hi all. So got my copy of 'Elements of Poker' and I have to say although I'm only a third of the way through, I'm not really feelin it.
      It seems he is always trying to write clever phrases or one liners. I'll read the whole thing through and take it on board and do what he suggests, but I really think that maybe Jared Tendlers book would be more what I'm looking for? Anyway how frustrating is 5nl????

      Booked a nice winning session last night, up 2bI's. Stopped for somehting to eat/take a break. Went back and ended up giving it nearly all back!

      A couple of coolers. Guy slowplayed AA pre against my QQ. Board comes A high on FLP, chk,chk. Chk,chk on nothing TRN, Q on RVR! You can work out the rest.

      The hand below was another one. I ended the session on this one as I could feel the tilt starting to brew so, maybe Tommy's book is working (Section on Quitting).

      Villain is 60/40 AF 4 over 65 hands. I should have cbet FLP not sure why I didn't? Just want to see if people think this is an easy call on RVR or tough fold? I was thinking I'm ahead of all 2pr hands, sets he most likely would raise on TRN (?), all str8's, the only hand that beats me is what he had.



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        CO: $6.44 (128.8 bb)
        BTN: $5.20 (104 bb)
        Hero (SB): $5.02 (100.4 bb)
        BB: $7.91 (158.2 bb)
        UTG: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
        MP: $6.18 (123.6 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with K 3
        4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

        Flop: ($0.30) T 9 4 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BB checks

        Turn: ($0.30) 2 (2 players)
        Hero bets $0.18, BB calls $0.18

        River: ($0.66) 7 (2 players)
        Hero bets $0.55, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.45

        Spoiler:
        Results: $4.66 pot ($0.23 rake)
        Final Board: T 9 4 2 7
        Hero showed K 3 and lost (-$2.33 net)
        BB showed 5 A and won $4.43 ($2.10 net)



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        Current graph.
        Notice the sharp increase on the red line courtesy of the 25nl tilt session lol

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        11-07-2011 , 09:39 AM
        I recommend you to read Harrington on 6max cash games online

        Your read line is pretty weak, you need to fight for more pots, dont be scared to c-bet, 3bet flop putting your opponent on some hand etc, bluff, semi-bluff etc. You need to read that book obviosly it helped me alot it will also help you.

        Last edited by DREAM333R; 11-07-2011 at 09:47 AM.
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        11-11-2011 , 07:49 PM
        Hi all, how goes it? Well not updated this week as not really played. I've been reading 'Elements of Poker' but I fear it's not working!
        I say this because I decided to play a good session this morning before work (3hours+) but that didn't quite work out.

        I started okay, playing well, made a buyin with a flush over 2 pair and everything was on track for a good sesh. Well cue an AI with top 2pr against a flush draw, which he shoved on the TRN, and one 9c later and the tilt was starting to flow!!

        So I shut down the tables and sought out my revenge in the form of a DoN $3.50 just get some back and make me feel better. So I opened the lobby, found a game, registered and off we went. Well it kinda threw me a bit when the first hand dealt I got three cards!!! A quick look at the top of the table and I realised I'd sat down for a HU RAZZ S&G!!!!

        After the first two hands I thought I'd better look up how to play/ hand rankings etc! I didn't want to lose another $3.50! Well it turns out that RAZZ is easy. It was soooo boring to start with when the blinds were tiny, but once they got to a reasonable size, then I really enjoyed it. Plus I won it too which was nice!

        Got a free weekend this weekend except for golf on Sunday so looking to grind and release a $10 FPP bonus so should be good. Good grinding all.
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        11-16-2011 , 08:20 PM
        Hey my fellow grinder (although my volume doesn't really qualify me as one I think! ).

        Well things are once again looking good. I've nearly finished 'Elements of Poker' and have to say that some of it is actually sinking in and making me stop and think before acting. For example I played a session last night and after around 2 hours I was down 2 BI's, and starting to feel ****ty.

        I was just feeling the tilt creeping up, and so went to shut everything down. Instead though I simply stopped, got up and went downstairs for a drink. In the light of the fridge drinking that ice cold water, I decided that no I wasn't going to **** it down. I was going to go back, open some new tables, and focus on each hand as it happens, and not my results, either past or to come.

        Well some two hours later and I had not only wiped out the 2BI drop, but finshed the session $1.80 up, and unlocked my first $10 VPP bonus!


        This was in part due to the fact that I managed to find a table with some mad Ukrainian on it who was sitting with like $30. For the next 45 minutes or so he simply ran the table over with his aggression. Every low flop, he would lead 2-2 1/2 times pot, and barrel nearly every turn. Well he managed to run it up to $50+ before spewing it real bad, calling down with K highs etc. I wouldn't describe him as a fish because he just played as if some had left a keyboard on the floor and their dog was just chewing on it! No rhyme nor reason behind his plays, except that he stayed clear of flops with broadway cards.

        Unfortunately though I comitted a true newbie sin (but realised too late) and instead of loading fully (5nl on Stars you can sit with $12.50) I just sat with my autorebuy to $5!! Well once he busted his stack, I managed one DU out of him, before he went Busto!

        Below is my current graph -



        I'm going to have to seriously increase my volume though because it is so much lower than I really intended or thought I'd be able to achieve. I realise though how hard it is to work, then come home and grind for like 3-4 hours. There's an excerpt in the book which reads -

        "Here's a catch 22 that has caught many. You can't play enough hours to get good enough at poker to be a pro unless you quit your job. And you can't afford to quit your job until you are good enough at poker to be a pro."

        I'm now realising how true this is. This coming month I want to work on my volume, and also on my range application. I don't seem to be able to narrow it down like so many pro's/good players do in the videos. I'm always thinking about sets on low boards, flushes & str8's on broadway boards etc. I'm giving too much credit and playing very weak passive which is basically suicidal. I feel if I work on this it should then help my red line.

        Anyway on the plus side my bb/100 is now at 0.55 to the good so, happy days again.

        Also I found a great thread on here (link below) and now think I may be in love! lol Her name is Shay Maria.

        http://://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/62/bbv4life/can-boobs-too-big-293860/?highlight=boobs[/URL]

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